IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Hacker/Decker Solution
Guest_Overwatch_*
post Mar 24 2005, 09:37 PM
Post #1





Guests






It seems to me that one of the big points of contention with SR4 is the fate of our beloved "deckers". I've been a cyberpunk fan since I first picked up Neuromancer back in 84. BUT I am completely hooked on the concept of augmented reality. I've even written some cyberpunk short fiction where AR is a central theme.

It occurs to me we ned a compromise. A term to keep Deckers as the elite intrusions specialists that they are, while doing away with references to the old cyberdecks of yesteryear. And without reference to the controversial and atavistic term "hacker". (thats a can of worm i'll bet the design team didn't know they were opening.) so I suggest...

AUGERS

It alludes to Seers, as well as System penetration. And it encapsulates Augmented Reality as well.

Thoughts?

(edited)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Toa
post Mar 24 2005, 09:38 PM
Post #2


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 112
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Württemberg, AGS
Member No.: 2,068



Yeah. You should have put that bold tag the other way around.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 12:29 AM
Post #3


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



If you ask me, I prefer the name Scrier.

But then, if it becomes Scrier, then I'll be looked upon as some noob who ripped his name straight from the book.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
SuperSpy
post Mar 25 2005, 12:49 AM
Post #4


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 86
Joined: 8-January 05
From: St. Paul, MN
Member No.: 6,949



Also keep in-mind that hackers are supposedly the marriage between Deckers and Riggers (according to rumors, anyway).

So, in that spirit, how about Diggers or Reckers?

Or, if datajacks continue to be in use, how about Jackers?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 01:23 AM
Post #5


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



Don't see why they would still use Datajacks.

Though I would like to see the Cyberdeck stay in usage, but it's more logical to have a wireless connection implant and proggies stored on that. Though a wireless connection from one's cyberdeck would be cool.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mfb
post Mar 25 2005, 01:20 AM
Post #6


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,410
Joined: 1-October 03
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 5,670



i don't see why they wouldn't still use datajacks. datajacks offer a cleaner, deeper, faster connection than trodes. trodes are dialup; datajacks are broadband.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 01:32 AM
Post #7


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



Because the thing is wireless? They don't need a direct plug into their heads anymore.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mfb
post Mar 25 2005, 01:34 AM
Post #8


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,410
Joined: 1-October 03
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 5,670



just because everything uses wireless technology doesn't mean that everyone will have that technology installed as cyberware. i'm picturing a palm-sized wireless uplink unit that you plug into your datajack, and carry around in a pocket. or, hell, maybe a wireless plug that fits into your datajack.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kanada Ten
post Mar 25 2005, 01:28 AM
Post #9


Beetle Eater
********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 4,797
Joined: 3-June 02
From: Oblivion City
Member No.: 2,826



I'm talking datamobiles, or celljacks, or mobilejacks, or datennas, or something. They will likely keep datajack though and just call them wireless datajacks like induction datajacks. <sigh>

Godmods, gridhacks, slicers, scanners, mentats, deviants, raiders, glitches
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 02:01 AM
Post #10


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



Freelance Admins?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 02:05 AM
Post #11


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



Yeah, but we can use wireless technology for that now, in fact, that's already how pocsecs and such work.

If it didn't work such that the decker was broadcasting from within their head, there might as well be minimal difference.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kanada Ten
post Mar 25 2005, 02:01 AM
Post #12


Beetle Eater
********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 4,797
Joined: 3-June 02
From: Oblivion City
Member No.: 2,826



QUOTE (Dark Scrier @ Mar 24 2005, 09:05 PM)
If it didn't work such that the decker was broadcasting from within their head, there might as well be minimal difference.

You mean other than full bandwidth simsense?

I mean, one can broadcast from the head now using a cyberphone to dial-up their MSP and display web pages on an image display.

There really must be some kind of simsense-reality integration kit as the big tech advance to match the wireless simsense.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 02:24 AM
Post #13


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



I'd be expecting that if the matrix was going wireless, that there'd be some simsense advances to support the ability to transmit directly from internal headware.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kanada Ten
post Mar 25 2005, 02:39 AM
Post #14


Beetle Eater
********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 4,797
Joined: 3-June 02
From: Oblivion City
Member No.: 2,826



I'm sure, but that doesn't mean most people will get them. Even if I could have a wirless datajack, I'd still route my 'trix connection through my pocket computer. It's easier to keep that SotA than an implanted one.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 03:57 AM
Post #15


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



True, but if matrix abuse was my trade, I'd be rushing out to pick one up.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kagetenshi
post Mar 25 2005, 04:06 AM
Post #16


Manus Celer Dei
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 17,012
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Boston
Member No.: 3,802



I wouldn't. What's the point? Wires give you security and reliability.

~J
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
NeoJudas
post Mar 25 2005, 05:00 AM
Post #17


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 257
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Los Coronados | San Ysidro CA
Member No.: 106



Personally, I'd want to avoid the usage of the term "Hacker" if at all. Too much spammail generation from it. :love: "Jackers" brings out the evil perv in me. I just think each group is gonna have their own term. Sounds kinda like a "matrix gang" thing to me anyway. Just look at the list of terms everyone here is coming up with and then think of all the other terms we've all seen/heard/used in our own games.

Why not just stick with "Users" for the games books. It reflects the attitudes of the people who "live in the 'trix" or "surf the 'net" (dare it to not be called addictive) and still reflects on what the people who "use the technology" really are. It's something we all are, how good our individual reps are is ultimately what might determine the actual "title" we come up with.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mfb
post Mar 25 2005, 06:29 AM
Post #18


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,410
Joined: 1-October 03
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 5,670



wires also keep you locked in one place. they also keep you from doing all the cool wireless stuff.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fortune
post Mar 25 2005, 06:24 AM
Post #19


Immoral Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 15,247
Joined: 29-March 02
From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat
Member No.: 2,486



QUOTE (mfb)
wires also keep you locked in one place. they also keep you from doing all the cool wireless stuff.

I think he's refering to a wired connection between himself (datajack) and his wireless computer/pocket secretary/electronic thingie.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 06:56 AM
Post #20


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



So where's the difference between that and beaming it into your headware? Other than connection, there really isn't a difference.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kagetenshi
post Mar 25 2005, 07:32 AM
Post #21


Manus Celer Dei
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 17,012
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Boston
Member No.: 3,802



QUOTE (Dark Scrier)
So where's the difference between that and beaming it into your headware? Other than connection, there really isn't a difference.

If there's jamming going on and I've got a wired connection to a wireless computer, I can still access my computer. If I go all-wireless, that computer's so much dead weight.

~J
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 07:53 AM
Post #22


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



Ahh. Hadn't taken signal jamming of the matrix into account in this brave new world of wireless.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kagetenshi
post Mar 25 2005, 07:55 AM
Post #23


Manus Celer Dei
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 17,012
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Boston
Member No.: 3,802



Remember, barrage jamming is just letting everyone know how much you love them.

~J
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dark Scrier
post Mar 25 2005, 12:07 PM
Post #24


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 196
Joined: 1-August 02
From: The land of unforgiving doom
Member No.: 3,052



It's a brave new world of DDoS.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mfb
post Mar 25 2005, 02:09 PM
Post #25


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,410
Joined: 1-October 03
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 5,670



ahh, okay. i'm with kage, then--wired connection to wireless devices is the only christian way to access the Matrix.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd July 2025 - 05:36 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.