Artillery?, Iraqis called it Steel Rain Options

[grendel]

Deep enough to fool earth elementals? Nature spirits? Watchers? Astral mages? Because your opponents are going to have them. They're making contingency plans for every avenue of escape you could have.

Satellite based ground penetrating radar reaches to depths of 400m or so, depending on the substrate being imaged.

[GrinderTheTroll]

[Edward]

Another trick for the cliff is grenades tied with string.

Estimate how far down the climbers are and play out that much cheep twine, atacjh one end to a peg in the ground and the other to the grenade, set a 6 second fuse pull the pin and throw it over the edge.

Usual scatter rules will apply to model things like swing and getting the string length wrong but it is cheep.

Another option is to mine the entire face of the cliff with something,

Of cause there is the question of why they would climb it at all when they could bring in a squad of T-birds loaded with guns and armour with enough ED that you can’t hope to see them coming in to deposit a heavily armed teem in the middle of your compound, ether before or after blowing it to kingdom come.

If they really want you dead a single heavy navel missile will obliterate your encampment

Edward

[LinaInverse]

[Puck Wildhorse, ...]

My suggestion would be to have your mages set up a strong ward over the main building or buildings so no one can get in astrally. Then you set up all of the explosives and mines to operate automatically on tripwires or motion detectors or what have you. Have your decker or rigger set up the defenses to operate remotely using drones or sentryguns to fire from fixed positions within the compound. Then put in one cataclysmic FAE bomb or something inside the inner chamber of the central warded building to explode when they breach all of the other defenses.

Oh, and you and your team need to be someplace else with pizza, beer and cigars while you watch all this happen.

[DocMortand]

Just to correct a few things - secretaries do NOT have 5-7 points ballistic in my campaign. Good grief. It just seems that way because all you guys encounter are armed enemies - you don't know what the civilians have for armor because it doesn't matter. So stop exaggerating. :P

And yes, Lina, 2063 has what some of what you want, and it's even got availability codes.

Other than that...keep the banter up, you guys. You're just giving me ideas. :vegm:

[Siege]

Investigate the possibility of rigging dumb-fire, single shot mortar tubes or fixed emplacement drones.

Once you start dropping mortar rounds into an area, most people will expect more incoming, not less and will begin reacting accordingly. By the time they figure out that the five or six rounds falling is it for the barrage, you can be in place for Phase 2.

Particularly if the rounds seem to be coming from different points.

What kind of defenses/sensors will the target have?

-Siege

[LinaInverse]

[LinaInverse]

OK, new epithany...

The new territory is in a forested area. Such areas always have lots of wood and kindling around it. If someone could think of an accelerant that doesn't have a give-away odor, would it be conceivable to have a sprinkler system prepped in advance? So once the siege begins in earnest, sometime between the "waves", start the sprinklers, then when there's enough crunchies trying to work their way into the forest, launch a half-dozen WP dumb rockets to start the conflageration? Silly idea?

Of course we wouldn't spray the area around the compound itself, but even so, we'd likely have to evacuate shortly after pulling this step off I would think.

[Kagetenshi]

The answer to your question is wonderfully obvious: naval weaponry. Choose something that isn't a railgun, and you get an area-effect weapon that'll clear out thirty meters or more.

~J

[DocMortand]

Lina - some of the mortar/howitzer rounds in SOTA63 have Light Naval damage. Just thought I'd let you know. :) Of course FINDING them ain't gonna be easy...

[Siege]

Ahhh, I misunderstood - you're defending the afore-mentioned installation from attackers, yes?

Kidnap x number of people equal to your party. Stash them in the compound. Shroud the room with earth and ivy to bar astral snoops.

Fill the compound with car-sized bombs.

Use drones and automated weaponry to provide enough resistance to draw hostiles in, then detonate the explosives.

Another trick - leave powered down drones in the forest in anticipation of hostile forces. Once the hostiles have passed the drones on the way to your base, activate the drones to take the attackers from behind. It's called the "Midtown Defensive."

Drones will also be a pain - any smart attacker will make use of them to recon your defenses and provide expendable, strategic attacks. Consider some serious ECM/ECCM warfare.

-Siege

[Nikoli]

As well as some rating 10 jammers, darn near nothing can beat them reliably.

[LinaInverse]

Yes Siege, we're defense. Some of what you're saying is what we're already doing, though I hadn't thought too much about ECM/ECCM. I'll have to add them to the shopping list.

Alternatively Docmortand, if avail codes don't go my way, I could just pay the party's demolistionist to build several bombs similar to what we used against Zeus (aka, the "Tim McVeigh maneuver") stash them under cover at various strategic parts of the terrain with radio detonators and wait for them to gather, then blow them up that way.

[Thomas]

As for defending the cliff - give ground! Evenly spaced holes about a meter back from the edge, filled with your choice of high explosive, detonated when the attackers are half-way up. Take a look at rock quarry operations.
A few hundred cubic meters of rock heading your way - look out below. Soak that! :dead:
Options - link only a few charges together at any one spot, blow only the ones you need to. Second, third, etc. lines of charges spaced further back - don't go too far, you'll change your cliff to a jagged slope of rubble.
Hope you do well. :evil:

[Cynic project]

[Siege]

Unfortunately, unless you know where the staging area is, you'll have to plant the explosives where you know they will converge after the attack commences.

Ground zero. As I noted before, you probably won't want to be anywhere in the vicinity when you fire off the carbombs.

Have you given any consideration to magical defenses from spirit/elemental attacks?

-Siege

[LinaInverse]

[DocMortand]

Lina has a topographical map of the area that I pulled off of World Wind. If you're interested in seeing the defensive area, do a search for Devil's Butte in the Seattle area (I think it's still technically in Snohomish County, but I don't remember off hand.

Good staging areas include the base of the butte between Snohomish river and the butte, and the other side of the slope. There are a few ravines and such if I'm reading the topography correctly...and there would be great ambush points. The side nearest the river rises from 100 to 600 ft at abouta 70-80 degree angle of climb - definately no picnic.

[Siege]

How quickly could you put your hands on layers and layers of ballistic glass?

LOS:

1. Line of Sight
2. Lots of Spells
3. Legions of Spirits

-Siege

[Siege]

How motivated are the attackers? What resources do they have to commit to the attack? What are their objectives?

-Siege

[DocMortand]

Assume REALLY motivated. I think Lina is going to start a new Mob War and then draw the Bigios to attack her. *grin*

Whether they decide to call in favors after the first hit team is another matter, of course. Depends on "honor", "pride" and other smacks to their machismo, of course. :)

[DocMortand]

[Siege]

Which begs the question, why are you playing defense?

If you know the identity of the attackers, why let them take the initiative and attack first?

-Siege

[LinaInverse]