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 Mar 28 2005, 07:02 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 16-March 05 Member No.: 7,178  |
We all have our complaints about the term decker and the term hacker. everybody seems to be talking about it on other threads but this subject doesn't have its own thread yet.
Pick the new name you would like to see for deckers. After we get a good list going we could start a poll (who knows maybe we could get it changed) Here are some I like that I have seen so far... Netrunner - (if we can use it, shadowrunner on the net= netrunner) Scanner - (very nice for a wireless net) Breakers - (short for code breaker) Jackers - (Pays respect to fast jack and refers to head jacks) |
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Mar 28 2005, 07:20 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 4,341 |
Information Infilitration Specialists. :P
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Mar 28 2005, 07:29 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Hackers! :P
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 Mar 28 2005, 07:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 15-April 04 From: Deep in the State of Denial. Member No.: 6,247 |
Split the difference between decker and hacker-dacker or hecker. :D
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Mar 28 2005, 07:34 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
We are not naming them IIS :P I heard this great name once, can't remember what it was… I think it was Deckers? ~J |
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Mar 28 2005, 07:35 PM
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Financial Adept Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682 |
Lets just call them "Geeks" and be done with it.
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Mar 28 2005, 07:33 PM
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Knight Templar Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 212 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Ipswich, UK Just South of the Stinkfens Member No.: 6,424 |
Electron Jockeys?
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Mar 28 2005, 07:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
Teh 1337
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Mar 28 2005, 07:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
iNPh0rM@+i0N iNPhi1+r@+i0N $P3ci@1i$+z
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Mar 28 2005, 07:58 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
infomancer/techmancer?
maybe a bit to wizardry? still, i love the image of someone taking over a passing drone and then send it on a ramming action towards that wizard :P |
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Mar 28 2005, 07:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
From my understanding of the word and the context in which it was historically and probably intended to be used, "hacker" would be an incorrect term to describe new age "deckers". The origin of the term (some say from MIT) meant someone who circumvented limitations for the intellectual challenge (the "white hats") and probably were system admins who tried to stop illegal activities on their networks.
What I believe to be teh correct term for someone who exploits computers or electronics for illicit purposes is called a "cracker". The media of course didn't think this sounded morbid/evil enough so they went on to use "hacker" in every possible instance until they told the lie long enough and it became truth. I don't believe either term should be put to use in SR4 I just thought I would provide some information. |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:09 PM
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Knight Templar Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 212 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Ipswich, UK Just South of the Stinkfens Member No.: 6,424 |
Jack Jockey
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Mar 28 2005, 08:02 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Really, a hacker is the consummate non-professional problem-solver. They're people who take technology and get it to do something that it doesn't want to do in any way possible. Spaghetti code? Resoldering your Game Gear to display on a modern projector? Building a rifle-shaped antenna that allows you to snoop on wireless signals from a kilometer out, but that you need to hold just right otherwise the wires don't touch right, that's what hackers do.
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Mar 28 2005, 08:15 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
the original meaning of the label hacker was someone that was good at (re)writing (hacking) code. later on it was extended to anyone able to hack a system (ie understand how it works and how it could be manipulated).
the media tho jumped on it as a label when website defacement got popular and made it into what it is now. most of the time tho this was done using premade scripts and tools found on the net and the term cracker and script-kiddie was brought into being. the movie hackers didnt help tho and now the media have made the label hacker synonymus with someone that sits in front of a crt, wearing sunglasses and trying to break the latest NSA encryptions just so that they can empty someones bank account or take over a nuclear missile for fun and profit... |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
Are you talking about "Swordfish"? That movie rocked. :D
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Mar 28 2005, 08:14 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
well, it would be fun to try and crack a insane-bit encryption in 60 seconds while getting a blowjob but basicly thats not going to happen. unless the guy knew of a flaw in the algorithm the only solution is to bruteforce the key, not going to happen unless he highjacked a supercomputer of unheard of power...
the assembly of that tool of his could happen tho. nice way to hide it. but i much prefer hackers over swordfish, atleast there they show some tricks that could work IRL (like the opening where he calls up the nightwatch and social-enginner him into giving the modem number :P ), that is if your not dazzled by the cgi... |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
No I didn't mean it rocked in any kind of intelligent context. It just had boobies. |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 25-March 05 Member No.: 7,235 |
or that stupid scene where they have the telephone booths rotating in front of the screen for like 60 seconds with nothing else going on. :P
I actually like slicers or techies. Some people seemed to like when I suggested Trogdor the Burninators, though. |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:30 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
if the script fails, get a hottie and have her display her assets. instant blockbuster (yes i know there was boobes on display in hackers to, i love shooting myself in the foot)...
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Mar 28 2005, 08:39 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
And a great villian! :) |
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Mar 28 2005, 08:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 90 |
Anything is better than hackers.
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Mar 28 2005, 08:35 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i dont know why but i prefer a story where someone uses brains and trickery to solve the problem over brute force :P
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Mar 28 2005, 08:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
Cyberpunk 2020 might be angry with us :)
Cybergeneration might be angry with us :)
Mm, over here in the UK a Breaker is a bloke who scraps vehicles and the like. I used to get a lot of my spare parts from the local breakers' yard.
Isn't it in the US that a Jacker is someone who steals (jacks) a car? The term "hacker" certainly pre-dates computers, and often referred to a prankster (like the guys who reassembled someone's car in their dorm). It narrowed first to electronics (that model railway club) and in many peoples' minds has become synonymous with computer crime, although as Solstice said the correct term for that is Cracker (nothing to do with "trailer trash" :P ) |
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Mar 28 2005, 09:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
Here's a good, quick read on the etymology of the word 'hack'.
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Mar 28 2005, 09:17 PM
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Harlequin Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861 |
Technomancer
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