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Deus didn't have a link to it's puppets motor functions either. Though i do get your point and that Deus had perhaps alot for time to "condition" the responses. Breaking encryption is possible though very unlikey. |
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Mar 31 2005, 01:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 20-June 04 Member No.: 6,423 |
It's the Laughing Man. The name actually translates into "the smiling man", but it's the Japanese name of the J.D. Salinger short story, "The Laughing Man". Since Salinger references play a big part of SAC (even the Laughing Man logo includes the "deaf-mute" line from Catcher in the Rye), it's the correct translation. |
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Mar 31 2005, 04:02 PM
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Actually, there is one key fact that prevents the timelines from being the same. The character Togusa. In the original movie it specifically says that he had just joined Section 9. The whole reason they went with a new timeline for SAC was so that they could have both Kusanagi and Togusa in the series without having to come up with a reason for Kusanagi to return to Section 9 after the first movie. I remember reading that on the official Stand Alone Complex sight. |
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Mar 31 2005, 04:36 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Ah, you're right. Bah. Damn rookies, always screwing things up.
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Mar 31 2005, 04:45 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
Deus didn't directly control his minions, he brainwashed them into doing his bidding.
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Mar 31 2005, 05:48 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Slacker beat me to this. Damnit. |
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Mar 31 2005, 06:08 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yeah, forgot about that. Togusa's the perpetual rookie. though he's seasoned up a lot, by 2nd Gig, so i guess that makes him a non-perpetual rookie.
that's one thing i like about SAC--it shows, but never comes out and says, why it is that the Major pulled him into S9. i mean, that Interceptor thing? that was all him. |
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Mar 31 2005, 08:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
With a do this or receive pain. It's been done for ages. I point a gun at you and say "get me a beer or i'll shoot you in the knee" what do you do? Get me a beer. I've got my desired response, by the threat of inflicting pain. wether or not a can is debatable. |
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Mar 31 2005, 08:38 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
right. but that's not brainhacking.
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Mar 31 2005, 08:37 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Go away, anime! That's all I have to say. You wanna play GitS, go play BESM, for the love of Ghost!
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Mar 31 2005, 08:49 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Fine, you said your piece. Now you can go and leave us to continue discussing Shirow manga and anime.
I read illiteracy was skyrocketing, but meh, didn't think it would show on a READ-ONLY forum! Disclaimer: In case you failed to get that subtle hint, read the thread. None of us wants to play GitS, we just talk about it. If you want to play forum police and tell us what to talk about, we so don't care. |
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Mar 31 2005, 08:57 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Yeah! And while we're at it, go away books! 'Cause they're, like, a genre too!
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Mar 31 2005, 08:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 17-March 05 Member No.: 7,185 |
Personally I'd love for a Shirowpunk style game to be published. If you want magic in it you could easily go with a merger of GitS and Silent Moebius as they are pretty combatible.
Besides from a strict art perspective Shirow is super duper double plus good unless you have some of the Intron Depot Tentacle Pron stuff sneak into the game world :) |
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Mar 31 2005, 09:04 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Shirow is among my favourite drawers, but some others are pretty good too, particularily Naoki Kurasawa and Yukito Kushiro (the latter's Battle Angel Alita, while way out there in many respects, could offer some ideas for Shadowrun nonetheless). And of course Hayao Miyazaki.
And I second the demand for the GitS/Silent Moebius merger. That would be a kickass game. :D |
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Mar 31 2005, 11:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UCAS Member No.: 1,015 |
Seasoned, eh? Togusa didn't seem too seasoned in 2nd Gig ep. 10 when he got repeatedly schooled by a defense lawyer until the Major took over. He seemed more like the only cop who had never seen the inside of a courtroom.
While maybe not perfectly explicit, they did come close 13 minutes into the first SAC episode. Togusa is at the shooting range shortly after a hostage rescue in which he used an SMG:
The joke of course is that in the first few minutes of the GitS film Kusanagi berated Togusa for carrying his pistol while on duty and insisted that he ditch it for an SMG while here she is encouraging him to choose his own armament. :rotate: |
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Mar 31 2005, 11:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,118 |
See? With women, even terrible cyborg supersoldier women, it's all about the mixed signals.
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Mar 31 2005, 11:21 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's not true; she berated Togusa for having his nonstandard revolver instead of a standard-issue semiautomatic pistol.
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Mar 31 2005, 11:24 PM
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Hey sometimes you just gotta carry some massive handcannon rather than police issue. Besides monster revolvers are a favorite of artists. Note I haven't seen the anime in question but am commenting on the relative explosion of revolvers in anime/manga in general. |
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Mar 31 2005, 11:31 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
It's not a monster revolver. The Mateba he carries is chambered in 9x19mm.
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Mar 31 2005, 11:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 17-March 05 Member No.: 7,185 |
Damn if they were sticking to standard anime cliches it would be a Taurus Raging Bull variant carrying .454 Casull ammo. People are just slacking these days if they let 9x19 revolvers slip into frames. |
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Motoko's not really terrible. She's just really, REALLY on the edge concerning cyberpsychosis. And all this sexy dressing in the TV series ... wodner if she'S trying to compensate for something ... |
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Mar 31 2005, 11:51 PM
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yeah, but his skill with a pistol isn't, it seems to me, the real reason Kusanagi wanted him--though it was a factor. the real reason, i think, is that Togusa is still human. very human, as a matter of fact. the rest of the team, while more precise and less prone to error, are also less prone to intuitive leaps when logic fails. Togusa excels in that form of thinking, partly because he has so few cybernetic modifications and partly because, well, he's the only one of the team that has a life outside of S9 (barring hot lesbian robo-orgies). |
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
._. Did I miss anything? |
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If you've read GitS and GitS: Man Machine Interface there are several passages that were removed that depict Matoka engaged in lesbian sex. |
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He's also the only civilian-outlook member. He's an excellent detective, top-notch, from a police force, rather than a military unit. Others in the organization are almost universally mercenaries, soldiers, and other such combat-oriented operatives. Since they deal with low-key domestic activities as often as international police actions and rapid-deployment combat situations, they need to draw from a pool of people who have exceptional skill in both important areas they operate within. Have you noticed that for the situations where they've relied on deep cover and face-to-face social legwork, Togusa has been their man?
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