 Another custom weapon, Thoughts? This may actually be in a game |
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 Apr 8 2005, 05:00 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840  |
Alright, I need your guys' thoughts on another custom weapon I'm currently creating for a John Constantine-esque character. This guy might get chosen for a PbP here, and this is his weapon, so I could really use some opinions.
Here it goes: Name: "Holy Shotgun" (tentative name; I need something original, so any thoughts on a name would be much appreciated too) Frame: Shotgun -Damage: 8S -Mode: SA -Conceal: 3 -Wt.: 4.5 kg. -Ammo Cap: 5 -Load: ( m ) -Mounts: Barrel, Top, Underbarrel -FCU: 2.5 -DPV: 130 Design Options Ammo Loading (clip) DP: +10 FCU: None Wt: None Conceal: -1 Barrel Extension DP: +15 FCU: -.5 Wt: +.25 kg. Conceal: -2 Heavy Barrel DP: +25 FCU: -.25 Wt: +.5 kg. Conceal: None Increased Power (+2) DP: +160 FCU: -.5 Wt: +.5 kg. Conceal: None Melee Hardening DP: +15 FCU: -.5 Wt: +.25 kg. Conceal: None Selectable Clip DP: +35 FCU: -.5 Wt: +.1 kg. Conceal: -1 Weight Decrease (Level 6) DP: +30 FCU: None Wt: -1.5 kg. Conceal: None Modifications Custom Finish (silver) DP: +20 Embossing/Engraving DP: +20 Phrase: "In nomine patri, et fili, et spiritus sancti" Extended clip (+5 rounds each) DP: +20 Laser Sight Mount: Under Wt: +.25 kg. FCU: -.25 DP: +100 Appearance Shotgun is in the shape of a cross. The vertical "beam" is the main part of the shotgun, with the top of the cross being where the pistol grip and trigger is, and the foot of the cross being where the exit of the barrel is. It appears to be an over-and-under double barreled shotgun, but the bottom barrel is actually the laser sight. The horizontal beam of the cross shape is made up of the two clips, one sticking out of each side. Final Stats Conceal: 0 Ammo: 10 ( c )/10 ( c ) Mode: SA Damage: 10S Wt: 4.85 kg. Cost: 2,900 :nuyen: RC: 1 Ranges: S: 0 - 11, M: 12 - 22, L: 23 - 55, E: 56 - 110 |
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Apr 8 2005, 05:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
Munchkin! You munchkin bastard! Oh, such a munchkin you are! How dare you!
Why not make it FA with weapon foci rounds?! Munchkin. :D But seriously... Seems interesting, and a pretty "even" weapon, as far as CC Firearms Design goes. Not a bad placement of the dual magazine option. I like how it fits in with the design of the gun. Names: Retributor, Intercessor, Divine Vengeance Maybe try an online thesaurus for words like: angel, holy, sin, divine, etc., and find one you like. |
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Apr 8 2005, 05:33 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
You made a shotgun without making it Conceal 7? How dare you!
~J |
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Apr 8 2005, 05:51 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
I'm not a fan of comic book style stuff, but this is fairly reasonable, though a full underbarrel laser sight seems rather unreasonably gigantic.
In fact, given the comic book style, it might make more sense to put a single shot grenade launcher in its place. I'm with Kage, though. Shotguns aren't shotguns and assault rifles really aren't assault rifles until they're smaller than pistols. |
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Apr 8 2005, 06:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
Well, it doesn't take up the full underbarrel, just the last part of it. |
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Apr 8 2005, 06:15 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Then what's in the rest of it?
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Apr 8 2005, 06:18 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
The standard stuff found on most shotguns (i.e. the grip/pump-action) |
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Apr 8 2005, 06:31 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
But it's not pump action. You have it down as semiautomatic. Yes, there's a gas tube in that case, but not the full length of the barrel, and certainly not if you extended that anyway. Where's the superhero in you if you don't want to slap a grenade launcher under that thing?
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Apr 8 2005, 06:41 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
You could call it the Hand of God.
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Apr 8 2005, 06:45 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
Whatever. It's for cosmetic purposes more than anything, really; I just couldn't think of a way to incorporate a laser sight seamlessly into a shotgun's frame. I guess the "second barrel" is the gas tube then (I'm no real-life firearms expert), but the laser sight makes up the rest of the "second barrel." |
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Apr 8 2005, 08:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 4-May 03 Member No.: 4,535 |
my friend called the gun in the movie the god gun
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Apr 8 2005, 08:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
In most shotguns, what you're thinking of is the tubular magazine. Since you slapped two box mags on the sides, there's no use for this anymore. Seriosuly, though, you don't need to know guns to know shotguns belong strapped to grande launchers. It's just right. |
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Apr 8 2005, 08:46 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Or, if not an underbarrel grenade launcher (which could be an excuse for all the pumps, etc, you seem to want), then at least an underbarrel stake-launcher (for your character).
I mean, laser sight? Any fool can have a laser sight. On your angry cross-shotgun you want something that'll maul evil, not just make a little red dot float around. Think big, if you're gonna think big. |
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Apr 8 2005, 12:37 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It could very well have pump-action. See the SPAS-12, which is semiauto but has pump for when the thing's loaded with low-pressure rounds.
~J |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
Make the lasersight U.V. frequency capable to explain why it is so big and in the latin the Patri, Fili, and Spiritus Sancti are capatalized, proper nouns you know. ;)
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Apr 8 2005, 02:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
HMHVV Hunter:
I once saw a weapon in which I think you might be interested on the 'net. IIRC, it was a SA/BF heavy pistol with an underbarrel minigrenade launcher. Here it is: Shadownode Left-click on "Equipment", then left-click on the subheading "Weapons." The weapon you want is the "Dreadgun Heavy Automatic Dual Pistol". It's the first one on that page. Edit: Sorry. Messed up the link on the first try. It seems to work now, though. --Foreigner This post has been edited by Foreigner: Apr 8 2005, 02:47 PM |
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Apr 9 2005, 02:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 |
I say put in a pump-action CO2 powered stake-launcher. It would use those dinky little Co2 canisters found in some tools (the six gram ones) to fire, so every three shots or so you would use the pump-action to expel the spent cartridge and put in a new one. It would also be a very quiet weapon, which is a good thing if your only other option is spraying metal pellets at a few hundred miles per hour.
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Apr 9 2005, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,784 |
Some been watching Trigun?
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Apr 9 2005, 04:47 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 |
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I missed the Trigun part. |
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Apr 9 2005, 04:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Why does everyone seem to think that C02 powered weapons are quiet? They're not. It's the same principle: rapidly expanding gas progressively accelerates the obstruction down the path of least resistance. The only difference with C02 is that it's operating at much lower pressure. It may be less noisy, but it is still going to be very loud if it is going to be at all worthwhile. |
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Apr 9 2005, 04:59 AM
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Mostly Harmless Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 937 Joined: 26-February 02 From: 44.662,-63.469 Member No.: 176 |
I used to have a Daisy Powerline 400 that would prove that fact to anyone. Where did that thing go... Man, it was so fun I nearly shot my eye out.
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Apr 9 2005, 05:26 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
As far as the name goes, I got the idea of naming it after the Angel of Death, but I can't find any information on what the Angel of Death was called in Christianity. Anyone familiar with religion that can help with that?
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Apr 9 2005, 05:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,093 |
There's always 'Abaddon' aka The Destroyer. (aka Apollyon). Azrael is an Angel of Death in some traditions (I can't remember which, but probably Islam and the Hebrew traditions). There's the Prophecy's route of Gabriel being the Angel of death (I'm not sure if this is even close to accurate).
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Apr 9 2005, 05:40 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
Yeah, I'd heard about Azrael, but the key word here is Christian. The guy using this thing is a mage with a Christian bent, so IMO it just wouldn't make sense to go with Azrael since it isn't a Christian name for the AoD (I don't think). |
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Apr 9 2005, 05:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,093 |
Azrael's definitely Islamic, but Christianity doesn't seem to have a name for the Angel of Death, at least, not one specific one. Mostly it's taken from the Hebrew traditions where you have Sammael, Bebriel, Metatron, etc. The closest I think you're going to get is Abaddon, who's in the book of Revelations. Though, admittedly, I'm no expert.
Edit: As another thought, why not go the Milton route and name it Abdiel? The angel who stood up to Satan and rebuked him. |
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