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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 21-March 05 From: Freeport NY Member No.: 7,205 ![]() |
Okay. Why do I bother with this? Because apparently I need a quick fix as a player of mine was in a club and decided to break dance.
Breakdancing: The skill where you do all kinds of crazy dances. Defaults to (skills, -3): Athletics (default to Gymnastics for only -1), Unarmed Combat Defaults to Quickness attribute. Yeah, its kinda convoluted, but think about it - Many break-dancing moves are based on gymnastics and kicks and stuff, soooo that's why the defaults are the way they are. I'm sure there can be specializations but I don't know enough about breakdancing to do them. I'd probably say you could specialize in the "Worm" or the "Headspin" but meh, you get the idea. Anyway this is just a fun skill. The way a breakdance battle works is to act as if doing an unarmed combat exchange, target number 4 and whoever has more successes wins. |
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
I'd just use the canon Dancing Skill, which is a Knowledge Skill. Breakdancing could be a specialization of that.
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
so what's the karma cost for increasing a sepcialization ofa knowledge skill then?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 21-March 05 From: Freeport NY Member No.: 7,205 ![]() |
Eh? But the way I've been taught, knowledge skills can't be used as actives. Then again I wouldn't be terribly surprised...
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
Knowledge Skills in SR3 should really be named 'Not overly useful in a Shadowrun situation' Skills. They are not necessarily all linked to book learning, but are rather all lumped into a catch-all category of miscellaneous skills. SotA 63 (?) states that skills like Singing, Dancing, Art, and other skills that can be linked to Centering are all Knowledge skills.
IIRC, Knowledge Specialization costs are 0.5 times the new skill level up to Intelligence, and 1.5 times the new level when exceeding Intelligence. |
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
We always use pretty specific 'Not overly useful in a Shadowrun situation' Skills in our game, so never even thought about specializing in one before. Nice, get a rank 6 skill for 3 karma. Must be really easy to break dance! ;)
For Shadowrunners anyways. |
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 ![]() |
Umm, you mean 14 Karma, right? That's how much it takes to get a Dance 3 (Breakdancing 6) knowledge skill, with a 6 Intelligence. Remember, specializations cannot exceed twice the general skill with the exception of a general skill of 1 and specialization of 3. All Performance/Artistic skills are Knowledge skills in SR. I suppose you can use an Athletics test with the Breakdancing as a complementary skill if you are doing some acrobatic thang with a breakdancing twist. |
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
yes sensei, that is what I meant. I am much chastised. *hangs head in shame*
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 ![]() |
It could also be linked to a specific unarmed combat style, capueda. (I know I'm not spelling that right, it's from Brazil.)
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 ![]() |
Capoiera? |
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
say... as an adept's centering skill for unarmed/ capoiera?
That would be interesting |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 21-March 05 From: Freeport NY Member No.: 7,205 ![]() |
Meh, silly rules and their "only if it ain't useful" style. Furthermore, silly me for being awake at 4:20 and pegged with this rush of energy.
I like Breakdancing. I reallly do :) |
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 ![]() |
Look at it this way. You still get the skill, abd you can raise it for less karma.
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
:D
Breakdancers Of Death Attack! Much better than faceless ninja thugs. :D |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 ![]() |
The funny part is, my current PC has a 6 in breakdancing AND Capoeira. There's nothing less fun than being ambushed while breakdancing, unless breakdancing and unholy-fast unarmed combat are synonymous. I have a feeling that these will come in handy at some point... |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 ![]() |
If you've ever seen/practiced capoeira, you'll understand why it's really quite distinct from breakdancing. They're definitely similar, but you sure as hell won't be breakdancing to kick ass.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,088 Joined: 8-October 04 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 6,734 ![]() |
SPIN ass, maybe... Kick ass...no.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 21-March 05 From: Freeport NY Member No.: 7,205 ![]() |
Wow. I thought this topic was KIA already LOL
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 ![]() |
Should have been. But dark necromancy is pretty much the only thing keeping Dumpshock running these days, and it's bound to spill over into posting habits of the inconsiderate.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 ![]() |
Dancing =/= hand to hand combat. Otherwise, ballerinas would be deadly, as would gymnasts.
Yes, it is true that a gymnast or ballerina would be a bit more dangerous if he or she decided to fight back...the ballerina would have the muscles to kick you pretty hard. The thing is, though, that unless they're psychologically and reflexively ready for hand to hand combat through hand to hand combat training it would still be a lot easier to overwhelm them with a sudden hand to hand assault from a trained individual. It's like the attributes are there but not the skills and mentality. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 6,701 ![]() |
Unless you count certain cheesy action movie premises. :D |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 ![]() |
Aha, but in Gymkata, Kurt Thomas needed to also train with "Western Trainer" and "Eastern Trainer" (portrayed wonderfully by Tadashi Yamashita: "heal the onry sound of axe cutting ailu") before he could employ the deadly art of Gymkata.
As the movie poster says, "The Skill of Gymnastics, The Kill of Karate". That being said, in any game I run I accept "Gymkata" as equivalent to Unarmed Combat. Also, I just realized that if it were Sho Kosugi in that film instead of Kurt Thomas, Sho Kosugi would have effortlessly pwned all the bad guys, because he has Missile Parry, but Kurt Thomas dosen't. Like, all those dramatic points where someone gets hit by an arrow and dies? ("Arrow!") Sho Kosugi would just catch them all. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 7-April 05 From: Charlottesville, VA, CAS Member No.: 7,303 ![]() |
You mean Jean Claude van Damme isn't a complete and total badass in real life?
:D I still remember some crap about him thinking that he could kick Steven Seagal's ass... Dude, you're a fragging ballerina. He's a black-belt in (Jujutsu was it?). Yeah, you're toast.... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 6,701 ![]() |
I remember that interview. The problem was that I also heard (3rd-hand, bear w/ me and correct if you know otherwise) that van Damme never did document whether he actually studied martial arts at all (ie, which teachers, who certified him, etc), whereas Seagal, bad acting aside, is a 6th-dan Akido fighter, with the credentialed teachers to back it up. For all that, Chuck Norris probably could kick van Damme's rear end, given that he's, what, a 6-time (?) undefeated kick-boxer champ before he turned to showbiz. |
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I love the story about the time Chuck Zito decked him (VD) in Score's.
Norris should have stayed in MA, although short clips of Walker can be incredibly funny. |
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