 SR4 Firearms: Caseless and Cased on one weapon? |
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 Apr 24 2005, 04:43 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 11-March 05 Member No.: 7,152  |
Are the discharged gases from firearms currently identifiable outside of actual powder burn wounds? I am pretty sure that it is now very routine to determine if someone has fired a pistol recently just by the residue on the hands.
So, given 50-60 years, will ballistic/forensic databases have advanced to the point of logging what type of gun/round was fired in an incident solely by residual gases and powders that were present at the scene? Traces of a discharged weapon could be in the air or on the carpet... the room's ventilation filter? How routine would it be to look for this? Would caseless ammo be more easily identifiable in this method? Do I have a clue what I am talking about? No. |
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Apr 24 2005, 04:47 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Just make sure you aren't killing yet another innocent waiter in front of his girlfriend. |
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Apr 24 2005, 04:55 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Hah! I forgot about that! I swear, reality is so much better than the movies :) |
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Apr 24 2005, 05:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
I think you're awfully cranky today, Ray. :(
It would be stupid to carry a custom-built weapon. But ballistics aren't much good for tracking shadowrunners a lot of the time. You do the extraction at MCT. MCT goes looking for places where that same gun turned up...but if your last job was against Renraku, they're hardly sharing files on security breaches with MCT. Also, part of my point about info in databases is that there's a whole class of character -- deckers; er, drippers -- spackers -- hackers! Who can erase it for a fee. And in the disinformation agent example, I only meant that it was a danger with any captured operative, not particularly or necessarily one tracked down through ballistics. |
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Apr 24 2005, 05:44 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's absolutely true, but every source of expense you can eliminate is one more nuyen in your pocket, which over time could be one less run you need to take before retiring, which could be your ass in Tahiti instead of the morgue. ~J |
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Apr 24 2005, 03:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Kagetenshi, I see your point, but nuyen spent staying free as opposed to caught are well worth the expenditure.
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Apr 25 2005, 05:56 AM
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Mostly Harmless Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 937 Joined: 26-February 02 From: 44.662,-63.469 Member No.: 176 |
Yeah. Patience has been wearing thin as of late. Sorry.
A lot of the time. As in not all of the time. Therein lies my point and the heart of our apparent dispute. Adding further would require me to repeat myself = further draining of a precious resource known as Patience = cranky.
I got it. I was attempting a bit of levity. Perhaps a :) was in order. |
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Apr 25 2005, 07:04 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
I think I know enough chemistry to answer this. Defiantly the propellant type could be identified, trace elements added to propellents would help track the source (like with explosives today) but probably only arrow the field a little bit. Especially if the ammunition was not purchased from a licensed dealer. If the gun was cleaned recently you may be able to get the brand of cleaning product uses. You would not be able to tell the make of the gun but if the trace elements in the propellant where unique to a single type of ammunition you would know the class of weapon. Personally I don’t think it would work very well without very strict regulation of ammunition producers. Edward |
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