 More Metas, looking for alternative meta sub races |
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 Apr 19 2005, 01:47 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310  |
yes there is a couple of subs in the companion is there any more somewhere?
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Apr 19 2005, 02:48 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
How many do you need?
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Apr 19 2005, 03:05 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
And how freakish will they be, judging from the ones in the companion. :eek:
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Apr 19 2005, 04:33 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
well, there is a shortage of elven subraces
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Apr 19 2005, 04:41 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
There is? Let's see ... Dryads, Wakyambi, Night Ones ... how many more do you want? There are 4 Ork, 4 Troll, 3 Dwarf, and 3 Elf metavariants. |
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Apr 19 2005, 04:43 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
4 elf metavariants, you forgot the one in Cyberpirates!
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Apr 19 2005, 04:53 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You're right. But aren't they just Shadowtalk? I can't even remember their name. And Isn't CyberPirates! SR2. I don't recall any mention of them in SR3.
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Apr 19 2005, 05:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
They've got stats in the back of Cyberpirates! Allergy to (spices) or something. As for SR2...
...waitaminute, don't the Mimis of AUstralia count as metavariants? |
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Apr 19 2005, 06:11 PM
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Grand Nagus Group: Members Posts: 4,014 Joined: 27-July 04 From: Almost Heaven Member No.: 6,518 |
Ice Pirates?
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Apr 19 2005, 07:34 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Wood Elves seem to be a metavariant waiting to happen. They don't seem too far-fetched (cough, satyr) and would fit in nicely with nature campaigns/runs. NAN tribal types.
Centaurs are already mentioned as being sentient creatures and in SR canon literature, so I'd vote that they could technically be playable. I jokingly brought them up once in a thread, to which most people thought it wasn't such a good idea. One of the interesting things that came about in that thread though, was that they could probably be used as a weapons platform. Aren't there some lizardmen that used to be in Earthdawn? Not that I think we need them necessarily, but it seems like it would make sense to pull some of the playable races from ED if anything. |
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Apr 19 2005, 07:42 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Ah, the Philipino ones that have normal elf stats. Enkanto (and Enkantada for females). Not what I was refering to, but that is cool. As for my SR2 comment, why wouldn't any of these be included in SR3 when it was updated?
As far as I know, the Mimi are members of a magical order of Koradji, not a metavariant. |
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Apr 19 2005, 07:55 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
*straps the mortar to the centaur's back* Alright, Johnny, let's roll! |
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Apr 19 2005, 08:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Man, Trigger would be an awesome name for that type of character. :D |
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Apr 19 2005, 11:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,118 |
Actually, they are described as a unique and reclusive metavarient of orks and elves. Dunno what that means, exactly (i.e. are some metavariant orks, are some metavariant elves, or is the "mimi" race a metavariant of either basic metahuman race?), but it's in the back of Target: Awakened Lands. |
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Apr 20 2005, 01:18 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
They, along with Obsidimen, did not survive the downcycle of magic. |
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Apr 20 2005, 02:05 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Well, didn't trolls, orks, elves and the rest of the crazy metavariants also not survive the down cycle?
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Apr 20 2005, 03:00 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Obsidimen aren't expressed from humans, supposedly neither are windlings or t'skrang, though there's been some debate concerning the latter about both that and their survival.
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Apr 20 2005, 04:27 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Technically, it states ...
Nothing more than this rumor is listed, and it does not apply to the whole Mimi order. |
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Apr 20 2005, 05:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Interesting. So even in ED, non-human races are described as "expression of..." <insert main race>? |
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Apr 20 2005, 07:45 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
No, they all developed from elves which had been the first race created by the GD to serve them. One day wayyyy back in the past the elves broke free and somehow the other races were there. It's early in the morning, so this may not be 100% correct. ;)
T'skrang and Obsidiman can't exist in the current (2070) maigc level. Windlings are there: in the paranormal animals of europe they're mentioned, called sprites iirc. |
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Apr 20 2005, 02:31 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Well, there's also the theory that...
[ Spoiler ] But that's just a theory. :P |
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Apr 20 2005, 02:47 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Why does that remind me of some of the creation fluff from WoD?
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Apr 20 2005, 02:49 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I couldn't say, never played WoD.
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Apr 20 2005, 02:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
Because it's a bit like some of the Creation fluff from WoD...sorta, kinda, maybe.
It's hard for mythical creation stories to avoid having elements in common, especially if they're the mythical creation stories for some bunch of random arrogant ubar-NPCs. (That's not to say I don't like the ED creation myth-thing...I just don't buy it. There's no reason for Dragons to have the straight dope on the origin of intelligent life any more than humanity does...IMO) |
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Apr 20 2005, 02:59 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
True, but I was thinking more of the WoD links (old version, haven't cracked any of the new stuff open) between the Wyld, the Weaver, and the Wyrm. How they are aspects of the same being, yet they are locked in a struggle for domination.
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