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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
The current FanPro D newsletter can be found here (in German, of course).
It talks about the new SR4 matrix and gives excerpts from the SR4 core book. Interesting information: Not only hackers manipulate the wireless matrix - the "children of the matrix" (Otaku) still exist. But now they are adults and are called "Technomancers"! |
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Chrome to the Core ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 ![]() |
So no more fading? I dunno, but I think that was half the interest of playing an otaku. Slowly losing your abilities until you had to rely on a deck.
It's not even out yet and I'm already missing the "old days." |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 875 Joined: 16-November 03 Member No.: 5,827 ![]() |
And a very rough altavista-translation (sounds very funny, but it should give an idea) ;)
Perhaps someone can translate it more correctly? SYL |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
I hate the term "WiFi" so very, very much.
Definitely seems to support the idea that SR4 is taking a transhumanist turn. I suppose we'll see. ~J |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 ![]() |
Sounds like they're definitely going with a GITS-like augmented reality. Being able to hack a person's PAN seems very likely. There's even a hint of being able to hack cyberware (thru a headware commlink, at least).
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Part One: THE MATRIX IS DEAD - LONG LIVE THE MATRIX! After the collapse of the traditional "wired" Matrix in 2065 quite some things changed in the digital shadows. The old Matrix with its datajacks, cyberdecks and kilometers of optical cables exists no longer. Its place has been taken by a world of wireless communication (WiFi = Wireless Fidelity) and an enhanced electronic perception (AR = Augmented Reality). In the 4th edition of Shadowrun every citizen is a fixed part of this encompassing data world, the rich as well as the poor, the honest ones as well as the bad guys. Those who run the shadows have learned to use the wireless world to their advantage. Those "Hackers" are specialised in data manipulation, controlling programs and machines and obtaining data thought stored safely. But the hackers are not the only specialists of this digital realm. "Technomancer" - the grown-up children of the Matrix - are able to manipulate the wireless world with the power of their mind alone. Both hackers and technomancers are specialised in entering and exploiting wireless WiFi networks. They serve their shadowrunner team not only with their ability to break security systems and obtain important data but also by leading whole armies of drones into battle and entering a direct connection with their vehicles that make even highly cybered street samurais turn pale. Most importantly, hacker and technomancer are no longer bound to the inflexible cyberdecks and wired systems their predecessors had to cope with. They are now highly mobile and fully integrated members of their shadowrunner team. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 16-March 05 Member No.: 7,178 ![]() |
heh, The first thing my shadowrunner will do is learn enough electronics to stripout all those "hidden computers" so he can't be tracked by them.
Seems like fakeID's just became much more important. ECM devices are now like bombs! Start one up and watch a area go black. No data for you! |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Part Two:
UBIQUITOUS COMPUTER WORLD In the year 2070 computer-controlled devices are so ubiquitous they are everywhere. Every kind of electronics is controlled by highly integrated processors that are wirelessly connected to other devices and networks around them. Computers can be found in pieces of clothing, cars, firearms, chairs, toilets, doors - everywhere. They are so common and ubiquitous that most people have already forgotten being surrounded by computers at all times. Protocols, frequencies and transactions are standardised so it rarely poses a problem to let two random devices talk to each other. You want to read your emails while preparing food? No problem, just project them to your fridge's holo-display. Or listening to the new favorite song while on a 'run? No problem, send the audio data to the pistol's speakers via commlink and make the dolls dance! |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Part Three:
PERSONAL AREA NETWORKS (PANs) The average person in the year 2070 carries with him a bunch of computer-controlled devices which are united into that person's micro network: the Personal Area Network (PAN). This gives a number of advantages like file sharing, data backups and comfortable control of one device through another. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Part Four:
COMMLINKS Commlinks are the ultimate PAN devices and are used by everybody. They are a combination of wireless router, mobile phone, video camera, PDA (Personal Data Assistant), chip reader, purse/credstick and mobile game device all in a single highly integrated unit that can be carried in a trouser pocket, mounted on the belt or wrist. Commlinks are available in an overwhelming variety of shapes, sizes, colors and functions from stylised headsets and jewelry to cranial implants and devices woven into clothing's fabric. Commlinks are the center of a PAN and allow access to all devices connected to the PAN. Talking on the phone, playback of a video file recorded earlier, running cyberware diagnostics, checking a drone's fuel reserves or configuring the alarm clock - all this and much more can be done comfortably with the commlink. Furthermore, commlinks allow a continuous wireless access to the surrounding world. Not only can messages be sent, data be transfered or requested from the Matrix, it is also possible to access wireless devices and networks - whether near or far - be it a shop's catalogue, the PAN of a friend, touristical information broadcast from sight-seeing locations or the Matrix activities of that sweet guy at the café. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Part Five:
AUGMENTED REALITY (AR) For most inhabitants of the world of 2070 the Matrix is no place to go to but a digital parallel world that overlays the user's natural senses. Data from the Matrix is selected via commlink and then displayed by a variety of interface devices. Data received from the Augmented Reality can be freely selected or blocked by the user. While two AR users could both see a restaurant's virtual menu only one of them hears his incoming call's ringtone, etc. The most basic form of Augmented Reality are visual objects known as AROs (Augmented Reality Objects aka "Arrows"). Visual data is received by the user and then displayed by his cybereyes, AR goggles or contact lenses or directly projected to his retina by a laser. The data appears as ghostly pictures or text in the user's field of vision and can then be repositioned or converted as he sees fit. Current tasks are displayed in the FOV's center (transparent so the real world beyond is still visible) while everything else can be repositioned to the periphery where it's not in the way. |
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I don't know whether or not to be glad there are no surprises so far with this stuff.
I mean, commlink, gee, I don't know. I wish I had something like that in my 3e games. Oh, wait... |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 ![]() |
Is it just me, or does this stuff not seem even remotely plausible given only a 5-year jump in timeline?
We're going from a world in which display and image links were different pieces of cyeber to pervasive augmented reality in 5 years? (less really, considering the amount of time that'll inevitably be wasted running in circles screaming when the Matrix goes down and everything goes tits-up?) And runners are supposed to buy into this BS wholesale, never mind the way it all screams "security risk"? Also, does anyone else think that "technomancers" are just about one of the worst ideas you've ever heard of? Making magic and technology more and more interchangeable only serves to undermine the most important thing that actually makes SR different from every other cyberpunk-ish setting... Hey, I have an idea - let's allow mundane "nanomancers" to wirelessly control nanobot swarms that'll let you do all kinds of neat stuff like superheat the air in a given area, or shock someone's nervous system with electricty, or bend the light around you to make you disappear, or dissolve the bullet flying at you in midair, or bond to your body to make you stronger, or attach to someone else and probe their nervous system, reading their mind! Wouldn't that be just fucking awesome? :S |
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No, because AR is within the realm of reality. "Nanomancers," as the preceding thread has shown, aren't.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Winston Salem, NC Member No.: 1,359 ![]() |
M¥$T1C, thanks. My German really sucks (I have never had any classes or been to Germany), and I appreciate the translation. My Spanish is decent, which for a white American male is a little out of the norm. I am guessing that those that visit this board are, for the most part, out of the norm in some way. :D
Very interesting information. I like/dread what I am seeing. There are definite aspects that are very appealing (virtual overlay) and others that are going to be worrisome to deal with (overabundance of processors and connections via wifi). It will be interesting, and I will reserve final judgment until I get the final product. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 ![]() |
Thank you for missing the point... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 6,773 ![]() |
Am I the only one that noticed that Technomancers manipul;ate the matrix with ONLY the power of their brains? No cyberware? How does being able to perform computations like a computer with your brain evolve into the ability to remotely control machines with your brain?!?
Doom I say!!! DOOOOOOM!!!! |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 ![]() |
The techno manners could still be ok, provided they are actually no more magical than otaku where, then, like the otaku, they will merely be an annoyance.
My difficulty is the idea of a pervasive augmented reality. There are several problems with it. One: the cost, in the world of SR there are supposed to be a lot of poor. Anybody that can get an interface unit for the WMI within 5 years and doesn’t sell it is not living a street or squatter lifestyle, many with a low lifestyle will also not be able to afford it (those that do purchased them “used” from a squatter that “found” it. There will also be purists that will shun the technology so rules for people that refuse to have such devises will be needed Two: it doesn’t (in itself) mach the purpose of the matrix, the matrix is a mass telecommunications system, it would cost a lot of nuyen to make something (say a wall menu) an ARO especially considering not everybody will be able to see it. At eth same time doing so dose not allow your customers to access the menu from outside your store. Regardless of what it gains the matrix MUST retain its primary function, that being to share and access data over long distances. Edward |
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
the thing is, this text dont say shit about how the tecnomancers work. most likely its similar to todays otakus in that they can use a simple translator and their brain talks "comlink". basicly a lot of fluff but no meat at this point.
this seems similar to blue planet, but i guess that augmented reality and comlinks are being more and more the norm in near future sci-fi. just take a look at the cellphone of today and add a highcapacity bluetooth-like short range link (2-3 meters or so) to the mix. the only problem i have is with the contacts, how are they powerd? but thats kinda the same question i have about cyberlimbs :P as long as the world we all know and love survives all this intact i have a feel that sr4 is going to be a good thing :P |
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I got your point. That was the only part of your post worth responding to.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 ![]() |
that newsletter is not very encouraging but thanks for posting.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 12-April 02 From: the shadows.... Member No.: 2,548 ![]() |
Technology like evolution does not proceed in clearly deliniated paths, rather it can grow by incredible leaps. And how can you define "remotely plausible" for a fictional game based in the future? Hell, functioning cyberlimbs, cybereyes, datajacks, etc could be considered not even "remotely plausible". |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
Why is it that all the details are being released in German but English-speakers don't get the same love?:-/
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 ![]() |
Ok, care to tell me a single thing a human brain has in common with a computer in terms of their methods of processing information, aside from the fact that they both do it? It's like saying a horse-drawn carriage and a jet powered car are alike because they both move on wheels. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 ![]() |
Well, you got that Loose Alliances preview PDF, didn't you? |
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