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Grimtooth
post May 5 2005, 06:50 PM
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You know i just had a couple of minutes to think about this.

I've read on a couple of other threads about how SR was using the 80's japanese like theme as the underlying basis.

Well guess what? After reading this post, I don't see good ol'Seattle as the gritty city of old. Oh no.

With this wireless society with its l33t H4x0rs and technomancers, i see downtown NEO-TOKYO :eek:

Go figure

The more things change...yada, yada, yada
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post May 5 2005, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Penta)
2. RF interference. You put that many transmitters in one place, in the urban accoustic environment, and all hell is going to break loose.

You're assuming that everything in the PAN contains an active transmitter. Most likely, 99% of your PAN-aware objects are going to be passive, containing the 2070 equivalent of modern day RFID tags (as Eldritch aluded to earlier).

RFID tags are tiny, unpowered, non-volatile data stores. They are completely inert until they pass through an RFID scanner. The scanner's low-power EM field gives them just enough energy to broadcast their data. Once they're out of the field, they go inert again.

So your PAN would most likely be comprised of, say, 25 RFID tags, powered by a scanner in your commlink, rather than 25 RF transmitters constantly bleating out their data. Turn off your commlink, and you effectively disappear. That is, until you pass through the active scanner located in the entrance of a mall bookstore, for example.

Or, you could take the time to rip out the tags from every bit of gear you own.

Just a guess.
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post May 5 2005, 08:42 PM
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Just think some RFID have a range of 100m ...
worst than "1984" is easily by reached. The bad thind is that were going throug it soon!
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post May 5 2005, 08:47 PM
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one should take a look at how bluetooth works. unless you tell it to scan it will only listen for traffic and reply if needed (say if a diffrent device sends a scan signal) or send to a known device.

to connect together two bluetooth devices you have to initiate pairing mode, ie tell both about each other. this is done by doing a scan and then enter eitehr a predefined code (for stuff like handsfree ear plugs, and they only go into pairing mode by pressing a button on them) or one that you make up at the moment (for stuff with keypads and similar).

a bluetooh enabled poster on the other hand have constant scan going, and when picking up a new device it sends out a push signal that is basicly a text note or a business card.

now push this into the future where you have better bandwidth (hell, bluetooth SIG is making noice about going UWB. the same tech that wireless usb will use) and you have matrix2's PAN.

take a pic with your digicam, put it in a pocket and then use your comlink to access the pic, write a mail and send it of. and you never attach a single wire.
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post May 5 2005, 09:29 PM
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Dude, the internet overlays what you actually see?

All new "Hackers" listen up!
I have discovered the new 1337 haxxoring ski11z!
Hacking specialized in.....

SPAM!!

Rule the streets as you legally force anyone you don't like within eyesight of you to be bombarded with constantly self opening and propogating useless "advertisements" that completely shut them down!
(Hey, if they didn't want to see the ads, they don't have to look @/ be around me.) 8)

(And before you laugh, we have them IRL now.) :eek:

I don't know, I'm thinking that with a simple action, I can run "Teh Sp4mmin4torz" and give someone oh let's say, +4 TN -4 Dice to all actions until they either shut down thier PAN and reboot or they have a monster anti spam suite constantly running... Also I could, with enough successes hits, cause thier PAN to "lock up" trying to open 65 million+ things @ once.

ph33r my 1337 h4xxor ski11z!

And if I have enough Karma for magic, I can add to this w/ magic spells like the good 'ole Choatic World™ spell! :grinbig:
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post May 6 2005, 12:07 AM
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post May 6 2005, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
I think I speak for many others when I say that I hate you.

Who, me?
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post May 6 2005, 01:33 AM
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This remind anyone of the laughing man incident in Ghost in the Shell? He was a hacker that hacked peoples eyes so that he didn't exist to them, and the fact that everything is going wireless...

He also hacked peoples eyes to overlay a stick figure face on top of his own so no one could tell what he looked like.
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post May 6 2005, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE (Shalimar)
This remind anyone of the laughing man incident in Ghost in the Shell? He was a hacker that hacked peoples eyes so that he didn't exist to them, and the fact that everything is going wireless...

He also hacked peoples eyes to overlay a stick figure face on top of his own so no one could tell what he looked like.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend to be one of those deaf mutes or should I? :rotfl:
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post May 6 2005, 01:06 PM
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See what i mean about the neo-tokyo feeling?

We're comparing it to GitS and the game isn't even out yet.

In preparation for SR4 I think I'll grab my CyberGeneration book and read up on the rules. :|
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post May 6 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (Lucyfersam)
Please, please, please do not include the term WiFi in the final description of the wireless matrix.

Agreed. It's a local nowawadays term, doesn't render well in a cyberpunk/sf game.
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post May 6 2005, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Grimtooth)
In preparation for SR4 I think I'll grab my CyberGeneration book and read up on the rules. :|

Stop saying that word.
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post May 6 2005, 06:24 PM
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preparation! preparation preparation!
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post May 6 2005, 08:33 PM
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I've never read Transhuman Space, or seen Ghost in the Shell, but this all sounds incredibly similar to a networking scheme I've been writing up for a d20 Modern game I was planning to run (and release online). I may have to rewrite to make sure things aren't excessively similar.

I'm not happy with the continued existence of Otaku in any form, but I'm definitely happy with the direction the matrix has gone.
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post May 9 2005, 12:47 AM
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Actually, this Matrix stuff should probably already have existed by 2065, although having everyone equipped with it in a world of such poverty seems pretty far-fetched.
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post May 9 2005, 12:58 AM
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i think that the word everyone is used to cover anyone that counts. ie, any middle-class wage slave on up.

basicly if your low income or below then having a PAN enabled comlink will be a achivement, just like having a high-end computer is to some people today.
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post May 9 2005, 02:40 PM
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CyberGeneration CyberGeneration CyberGeneration CyberGeneration

Its just so fun to say. :P



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post May 9 2005, 06:17 PM
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Say it once more and Candyma... Cyber... will appear.
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post May 9 2005, 06:52 PM
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Crimsondude and other writers accept implicitly that CyberGeneration can notice and manipulate unwary Name-givers who invoke its Name too often. Your humble scribe finds this unlikely, for CyberGeneration CyberGeneration has not demonstrated clairvoyant powers of this CyberGeneration description, certainly not on those CyberGeneration whom Cybergeneration has not CyberGeneration already marked. Assuming such CyberGeneration were true, the effects of CyberGeneration's CyberGeneration's CYBERGENERATION'S manipulation would become evident to an CYBERGENERATION observer. CYBERGENERATION To date no such CYBERGENERATION has surfaced, despite the CYBERGENERATION diligent inquiry of one CYBERGENERATION who only desires to CYBERGENERATION the CYBERGENERATION of the CYBERGENERATION Library of CYBERGENERATION, and hopes that CYBERGENERATION superiors will CYBERGENERATION him with CYBERGENERATION and CYBERGENERATION CYBERGENERATION CYBERGENERATION
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post May 9 2005, 09:26 PM
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Apparently Nebis has renamed himself CyberGeneration (or vice versa). This Nebis not be a CyberGeneration Nebis. Ah CyberGeneration. Nebis. Nebis, too.
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post May 9 2005, 09:32 PM
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Well, further proof that the line between genius and madness is a thin one indeed.
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post May 9 2005, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
Well, further proof that the line between genius and madness is a thin one indeed.

The line of "just not getting it" and having no idea what CyberGeneration is... Is apparently much, much wider... :(
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post May 9 2005, 10:01 PM
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Oh, no. it's just that I've seen Ellery do this before, and it usually requires someone to give the case a good swift kick to reset it.
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post May 9 2005, 11:59 PM
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speaking of things i'm not keen on trying...
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post May 10 2005, 12:57 AM
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Yeah, God only knows what defenses need to be bypassed. Rebooting Deus would probably be easier.
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