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craigpierce
post May 28 2005, 05:49 PM
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It doesn't sound all that fun to me. Part of our group's fun is in the 'homey' feeling we have when we all get together. Listening to music at our preferred volume settings, getting loud and noisy when we need to, and letting down our guard in how we talk are all a part of how we have a good time. In a public place like this, I would feel like I had a governor on my accelerator. Plus, I wouldn't like the idea of paying for something that we all do for free.


Thats ideal Crimson, and im lucky enough to be able to do the same, but i think a lot of people have to go out and look for others gamers. If i was in a new city/place and wanted to play i sure as hell hope that place is like Jongs :rotfl:

that's true...this kind of place is just what i was looking for when i moved out here...if there had been a place like that i would have started a group there and would probably still be running there now.

BTW, i will have a house soon with my wife, and for religious reasons she doesn't want RPGs to be played in our home...so a place like this would be ideal for me to run...of course now (i've lived here for 2 years) i've finally tracked down a group, so i'm covered...but i'd still frequent a store like that, and maybe get a side game going for fun.

and for people who still live at home and are getting into games, this would be ideal because not everyone's parents would let them stay up till all hours making noise and "shooting" people.

i just think it's a good idea...would you be "raking it in"? probably not - but if run correctly you could stay in business for as long as you wanted and make a 1/2 decent living.
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post May 28 2005, 06:22 PM
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Gimme a jar of Vaseline an a Sledgehammer, I'll MAKE it Fit

I suggest you reevaluate the tools of CCGs and networked computers for helping you fill the register with cash. They'll do more good than the sledgehammer.
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post May 28 2005, 07:14 PM
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It doesn't sound all that fun to me. Part of our group's fun is in the 'homey' feeling we have when we all get together. Listening to music at our preferred volume settings, getting loud and noisy when we need to, and letting down our guard in how we talk are all a part of how we have a good time. In a public place like this, I would feel like I had a governor on my accelerator. Plus, I wouldn't like the idea of paying for something that we all do for free.


Thats ideal Crimson, and im lucky enough to be able to do the same, but i think a lot of people have to go out and look for others gamers. If i was in a new city/place and wanted to play i sure as hell hope that place is like Jongs :rotfl:

that's true...this kind of place is just what i was looking for when i moved out here...if there had been a place like that i would have started a group there and would probably still be running there now.

BTW, i will have a house soon with my wife, and for religious reasons she doesn't want RPGs to be played in our home...so a place like this would be ideal for me to run...

Point taken, G.

Archimagus, out of curiousity, what's the issue with playing games at your home? I know you said because of her religion, but what about Shadowrun conflicts with her views?
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post May 28 2005, 07:49 PM
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My sister bought me a D&D book at a store in Alabama, entire sections of the book had been torn out, namely the monster stat entries for dragons and demons.

That's fucked up.

Jong, your post reminds me that I need to go to SA sometime. Uruguay seems like a nice place to be :D

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again: I'll buy a drink to the first of you who comes here (except for Skarn Ka, who owes me one :P ).

Another great thing of the pub (called Botch!), is that if you have some spare time, you can come in and play/GM a one-shot. Given that it concentrate a fair deal of Montevideo's RPG scene, it also helps a lot to find new players or parties when you need them.
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post May 29 2005, 03:44 AM
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BTW, i will have a house soon with my wife, and for religious reasons she doesn't want RPGs to be played in our home...so a place like this would be ideal for me to run...


You might want to have a talk with your wife about this. I'm no theologian, but simply saying "I don't want to have to think about your Sins" is not an acceptable approach in any religion I know of. If she wanted you to stop gaming, I could see how she feels, but simply asking you to do it somewhere else is pretty silly. (Note that I dated a fundie recently, and we broke up primarily over religion. She has yet to return my Mp3 player, despite her "holier-than-thou" attitude)
One option might be a truly Christian (or whatever religion your wife is; I've yet to see another religion protest RPGs) approach to role-playing games. The simplest method of doing so is to replicate some of the more interesting bits of the Bible; for example, St. George slaying the Dragon. There are also numerous epic battles in the theology of numerous religions; the battle of Jherico (where you must manouver people close enough to bring down the walls) is a way to use rules for a game such as Warhammer.
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post May 29 2005, 04:16 AM
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she's a jehovah's witness and they are strongly against anything spiritistic.

from what i've gathered: they believe that any spirits that may ever have been on the earth were demons and that anyone who may ever have wielded magical powers in the past did so because they sold themselves out to the devil and they never really had magical powers, they were really being granted those powers by demons. (note that i didnot say sold their soul to the devil...that's because the witnesses don't believe we have a soul - we are simply our bodies and there is nothing 'inside' of us that makes us us)

believe me, my attempt at explaining that this is all fictional and that no one in their right mind believes that any of it is real didn't sway her even a little. there's is a religion of seclusion - they cut themselves completely off from anything that may be bad as a 'just-in-case' precaution. technically, our relationship is 'frouned-upon' because my 'pagan ways' could make her stray from her beliefs.

basically we've set-up some ground rules: she won't hound me about playing RPGs with spiritistic elements, but i won't play them in our house - also, she won't try to make me a witness and i don't ever have to become one if i don't want.

i feel that compromise is good so long as the deal favors me :)
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post May 29 2005, 04:18 AM
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also note that their bible doesn't include any apocryphal bits (the parts with dragons in them)
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post May 29 2005, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (archimagus)
i feel that compromise is good so long as the deal favors me :)

Good luck with the marriage. Sounds hard to work, but more power to you if both of you remain happy with that arrangement. ;)
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post May 29 2005, 08:47 AM
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So Weredigo, you're in Arizona right? Are there a lot of RPGers there to support it?
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post May 29 2005, 10:34 AM
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Yes, there are quite a number of them. But they are all Scattered around. And I've only seen 2 Gaming stores in my 5 years...

For those who don't play RPG's I'm going to have traditional board games, Monopoly, Scrabble, Chess, etceteray adnauseum, available to play in the "Commons Room" No charge, just ask for the board and set, and try not to get violent. I've seen some Monopoly games get absolute bloody.

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post May 30 2005, 02:23 AM
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When I was on holiday in Australia last year I had the fantastic but rather odd experience of playing shadowrun in the back room of a church, GMd by the Pastor.
After a few hours of playing we stepped out of the room to get some food, it really shocked me to open the door and see the altar, I'd completely forgotten where I was :)

Shame I had to leave really, it was a really good game and we were in the middle of a run :(

Anyway, back on topic a bit...
While there's nowhere really to play in the local gaming shop, there is a gaming club here who rents out a large room of the community centre. There's no food for sale but it's in the centre of town and close enough for people to nip out and grab some food.
Still, the lack of home comforts, bright and incredably non-atmospheric lights as well as the rather large possibility of having someone's arse cleavage staring at you for the evening means that we now play at someone's house instead.

Something that I think would be pretty damned cool would be to have a place to play that's split into sections and decorated according to different genres of game. Unless everyone made an effort to dress in character you'd have to ignore the other patrons but I'd imagine playing somewhere with the decor appropriate to the game you're playing would be great.
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post May 30 2005, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Crimson Jack @ May 29 2005, 02:14 AM)
QUOTE (archimagus @ May 28 2005, 08:16 PM)
i feel that compromise is good so long as the deal favors me :)

Good luck with the marriage. Sounds hard to work, but more power to you if both of you remain happy with that arrangement. ;)

wow - i opened my 'hellfire' umbrella indoors for nothing if that's all i'm going to get :P

we have great communication and she knows that i'm working to understand life and God's word more. i know that secretly she's hoping i'll realize that i love the witness way and become one...but i don't feel that i will (based on what i know already) and i'm sure one day i'll have to remind her that a deal's a deal - but she's strong and so's our love - we'll make it...i'm sure of that.

anyway, thank's for the luck wishing...sorry to have jacked your thread weredigo. you know, you've got me thinking that i'd want to open one myself one day...
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post May 31 2005, 01:30 PM
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Wow, and I thought Baptists were hard on RPGs and rock music. I had to give up alot of game time for my wife, and I was happy to do it, but giving up gaming altogether? I couldn't do it. I shouldn't have to, either.

I live in Bible Belt country, and RPGs are somewhat popular, probably due to the college and the Air Force base here in town. Only one crappy store though, and even though I go to great lengths to purchase from them, half the time they don't carry what I want, or wait 3 months to restock a brand new game they sold out of in 3 days (seems like you'd want to restock as quickly as possible in that case), so I end up doing alot of RPG shopping online. :/
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post May 31 2005, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Weredigo)
For those who don't play RPG's I'm going to have traditional board games, Monopoly, Scrabble, Chess, etceteray adnauseum, available to play in the "Commons Room" No charge, just ask for the board and set, and try not to get violent. I've seen some Monopoly games get absolute bloody.

You'd be well off learning about the many other board games on the market -- many of which are European in origin -- that appeal to both "gamers" and "non-gamers", but often aren't widely available for sale in non-speciality stores. Sure, keep copies of the "old standards" around, but most hobby stores don't make any money selling Monopoly because Toys 'r Us can sell super-cheap all year -- and as a matter of fact, many game store owners actually buy their copies of common board games from TRU when TRU has big sales, and then re-sell them in their store.
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post May 31 2005, 01:57 PM
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Im just bumming that my local gaming establishment has recently closed its (very small and cramped) doors. There wasent enough room for an extra Batman comic book in there, never mind a table to play a game at. Man I hate living in New England sometimes.
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post May 31 2005, 08:26 PM
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Which one, out of interest?

I need to get around to forcing Avalon Hill, through legal or illegal means, to start rereleasing Age of Renaissance.

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post May 31 2005, 10:21 PM
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We Wisconsinites do not fear opression related to RPGs. Not surprisingly, my local game store is thriving, and Half Price Books is always sold out of Shadowrun books.
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post May 31 2005, 10:55 PM
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Calgary has a senrty box, it's pretty nice, decent stock, but mostly WH and fantacy rpgs (gurps, DD, Vamp) they've got some tables but it seems that it's mostly WH players that use them (with their own senery and stuff) not a bad place, but I prefer running at someones house. kinda spoiled from living in a dorm full of awsome people and being able to play and eat till any hour of the morning. no organization required (exept rooting some of the players off the x-box) of course some people didn't like it, but you get that at a bible college.
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post Jun 2 2005, 11:25 AM
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There's actually a store in the mall here (Orem, UT) that's set up that like that; front is all 'main stream games'. Pretty large selection (I'm one of those bloody monopoly players. I hate that damn game. Mostly 'cause I suck and hate dying a slow death. anyways...) actually in the front. The back half is all games, mostly warcraft table top and magic cards. Seems to do pretty well as it's been in the main mall in the area for over a year now. Just make sure it's got a good look to it. Only die hards go to places that look like dives. Good luck!
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