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post Jun 9 2005, 09:10 PM
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The more i look at it, the more is dislike it. At least the troll has a huge gun in his right hand. But why is the elf ninja thug wearing stockings an a miniskirt on a run? The dwarf probably has a hydrocephalus. And the spur of the sammy looks just silly. Nah.
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post Jun 9 2005, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Grinder)
The more i look at it, the more is dislike it. At least the troll has a huge gun in his right hand. But why is the elf ninja thug wearing stockings an a miniskirt on a run? The dwarf probably has a hydrocephalus. And the spur of the sammy looks just silly. Nah.

Isn't the Troll a Mage?
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post Jun 9 2005, 09:22 PM
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Yep. But he is allowed to swing around a huge gun too. :)
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post Jun 9 2005, 10:08 PM
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Hey! - No you bash the SR3 cover!

I think the SR3 cover looks awesome. Its dynamic, there is movement, the proportions are believeable and lastly, the runners look like they are each actively trying to do something useful. Even if its just saving themselves from falling.

The new SR4 cover looks awful. There is no comparison. Its flat and dead.
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post Jun 9 2005, 10:44 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I realize that that's really true. The elf-ninja, for instance. I don't hate the way she looks because she's a walking stereotype, I hate the way she looks because she looks like she's rooted there, solidly immobile. The troll's firing out force lightning, sure, but he's just standing there and chilling. I don't even get a sense that the Dwarf is tapping away at stuff, just looking at it real carefully, and the bald Samurai has been there since time immemorial. At first I'd even mistaken the vapor trail on the 'Star vehicle for a part of the building behind.

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post Jun 10 2005, 01:08 AM
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My main dislikes for this picture are the gumbie immobile look of the characters standing there, the abuse of too many happy colors, and the picture is way too busy. I think in this case that simple/less would have been more.

Personally I just think the picture is crap, rushed, and should be thrown out for something new. But I guess, AFAIK, this is the official picture they are going to use for the cover.

Best of Luck to them!

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post Jun 10 2005, 01:17 AM
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Just another comment;

I asked my wife's opinion on the cover and she said it had an underwater look. The flying things are fish, and the Troll is a big fish thing with fins on his head and scales on his back.

Maybe Fanpro is trying to go for an underwater theme with this cover. That would at least explain the mask on the super-elf-ninja-babe. But why is the mask's hose attached to her arm?

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post Jun 10 2005, 01:56 AM
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many eyes scrutinizing this drawing... not intirely fair, buy hey, we have a passion...


Indeed...for dick-waving-contests-over-minutae. To this forum that picture is like the crank version of Where Is Waldo. :rotfl:

well it is the cover of the core book for the edition. It IS going to be scrutinized by every single person that even looks at SR4 in passing. A first impression shouldn't be "hmmm.... something looks off with this picture...", especially on the main book.

That being said, it's not horrible. But it should be able to stand up to at the least a quick once over. This one just comes across as too static. A few alterations cold go a long way to making it more viable IMO.
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post Jun 10 2005, 03:19 AM
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Maybe this is a sign FanPro is finally catering to the hardcore fans....because you can be dang sure only the hardcore guys will buy a book with that abomination on the cover.
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post Jun 10 2005, 04:31 AM
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QUOTE (Veracusse)
Just another comment;

I asked my wife's opinion on the cover and she said it had an underwater look. The flying things are fish, and the Troll is a big fish thing with fins on his head and scales on his back.

Maybe Fanpro is trying to go for an underwater theme with this cover. That would at least explain the mask on the super-elf-ninja-babe. But why is the mask's hose attached to her arm?

Veracusse

Because she wants to be constantly sniffing her own armpit.
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post Jun 10 2005, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (The Canterbury Tail @ Jun 9 2005, 06:36 AM)
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Have you also noticed the シャドウラン on the building in the background, which literally translates as shadouran (using the modified Hepburn system).

Ah, good find! :) I was trying (without success) to find the right translator for that on the Net.


I just happen to know my Hiragana and Katakana so it was a breeze.

It's also on the cover of Shadows of Asia.

In that case you'll know that it more approriately translates as "shi-ya-dou-ran" :D

Nice to know that the Shadowrun RPG is still being advertised in 2070 or whenever they are setting SR4. What edition will they be using then, and will there have been as much debate prior to it's release?

Um, no. Look closely at the image, the ャ is not a full height kana character, but a smaller one, that means when put beside the シ to form シャ instead of shi and ya it becomes sha.
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post Jun 10 2005, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)
QUOTE (Veracusse @ Jun 9 2005, 08:17 PM)
Just another comment;

I asked my wife's opinion on the cover and she said it had an underwater look.  The flying things are fish, and the Troll is a big fish thing with fins on his head and scales on his back.

Maybe Fanpro is trying to go for an underwater theme with this cover.  That would at least explain the mask on the super-elf-ninja-babe.  But why is the mask's hose attached to her arm?

Veracusse

Because she wants to be constantly sniffing her own armpit.

:rotfl:

Anyone remember "A Fish Called Wanda"?
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post Jun 10 2005, 04:12 PM
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lol
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post Jun 10 2005, 05:11 PM
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post Jun 13 2005, 03:34 AM
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In general I like it. It looks immobile and fixtured, but that makes it look like a cover if you think about it. That´s one of the main things I dissliked about the sr3 cover; that it looked like a good illustration for a situation, with lots of movement and action, but not suitable for a cover. It was just to specific. You get a "and.. what?" reaction to the sr3 cover. The sr4 cover fills exactly the same function as the sr2 cover, its easy to absorb its decorative (sr2 is boring if you see it from a distance or just glance at it, its dull gray), the sr4 cover its just right!

I know it seems I defend sr4 out of pure principle. But honestly think you´re all wrong about most things when it comes to this. Shadowrun seems to turn into something more to my taste and less to yours : ) (speaking to a majority of DS)
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post Jun 13 2005, 10:38 AM
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Shadowrun seems to turn into something more to my taste and less to yours : ) (speaking to a majority of DS)

Aren't you lucky!
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post Jun 15 2005, 05:39 AM
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It's probably just me, but I get so much more of a shadowrun feel from the Shadows of Asia cover than the SR4 one.

edit: That or an Akira feeling.

Are those laser beams shooting between the dudes on the cover?
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post Jun 15 2005, 11:36 AM
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It's tracer fire.
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post Jun 15 2005, 12:27 PM
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or to avoid ripping off "bullet time"
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post Jun 15 2005, 04:09 PM
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Nah.

But it makes a lot of sense according to SR rules since in SR tracers don't do any damage. So why bother taking cover, right?
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post Jun 15 2005, 04:37 PM
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Based on the trajectories, the person/people shooting should be at short range and shouldn't miss.
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post Jun 15 2005, 05:33 PM
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I actually thought they were laser sights.
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post Jun 15 2005, 05:36 PM
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Still, crappy aim.
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post Jun 15 2005, 05:42 PM
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Spray and Pray:

Sec guard turns as the door opens, "Gak! A troll combat mage and an ElfNinjaChick!" *Points SMG, looks away, closes eyes, waves gun and pulls trigger*
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post Jun 15 2005, 05:44 PM
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LOL. :grinbig:

I suppose they could be running toward the door or something, but they are pretty close based on trajectories.
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