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 Jun 9 2005, 01:47 AM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67  |
Zeta-ImpChem? :) |
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Jun 9 2005, 01:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 4-June 05 Member No.: 7,427 |
The cardlock box has an Ares logo on it. I kinda just assumed that it was because Ares made the security system?
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Jun 9 2005, 02:02 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Its Ares. Look at the Maglock. |
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Jun 9 2005, 02:08 AM
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Modern-day Los Angeles at night (especially when you roll over the hill and see the opening shot of BR sans the two pyramids) has a grittier feeling than this cover. Oh, they also added 3-D holo schematics above the dwarf's PDA, er... Commlink, er... whatever (like it matters). There could also be debris from the camera that you can't see because it's behind the 8 ft. tall troll. |
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Jun 9 2005, 02:13 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Yeah, and when someone shoots you with an Ares Predator, they're working for Ares, too, because they it bears their logo on that particular tool they're using to kill you. Just ignore the big giant logo over the door -- its inconsequential. |
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Jun 9 2005, 02:40 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,049 Joined: 24-March 03 Member No.: 4,323 |
All this being said, it is kinda cool that the pic has the security system for the ZIC building as being provided by Ares - it, well, you know, demonstrates a certain familiarity with the setting that some have been claiming wasnt there.
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Jun 9 2005, 02:43 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 |
Yes, but so many other details are so screwed up.
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Jun 9 2005, 04:09 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
I don't have a problem with the scene being depicted. It's the art itself that I'm disappointed in -- it's going to do exactly zero to help bring in new fans as it looks just like all the other books the line has thrown out, and thus will blend into the background in gamestores as its piled right next to the old ones. That and it looks like very little love or passion went into the piece. Oh, and the fact that it looks like the art from the 80's rather than something more modern and up-to-date, despite apparently having that as one of the system's design philosophies.
And they were doing so well with the covers for Threats 2 and SOTA:2063, too. A pity. |
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Jun 9 2005, 04:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 442 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 6,280 |
Its definitely consistent with the cover art for the previous books though. Slightly over the top, fantastical, combat/ninja/cyborg/fantasy, pulp, funkiness.
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Jun 9 2005, 07:29 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Toulouse, France Member No.: 7,416 |
It's definitely not the best cover I have seen for SR but it's still fairly decent even if it's not on par with some of the artwork we've got in the past.
From my standpoint, Larry Elmore's first edition cover (now legendary :)), Dave McCoy's original Virtual Realities, John Zeleznik's first edition Grimoire's cover, Doug Andersen's Corporate Security Handbook or just the cover art done by Steve Venters for the very old Sprawl Sites helped quite a lot in defining what was SR and with the SR4 Cover, it seems something is still missing to make it stand out compared to what we've been used to in the early 90ies. My two cents. |
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Jun 9 2005, 07:36 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,182 |
Have you also noticed the シャドウラン on the building in the background, which literally translates as shadouran (using the modified Hepburn system). Also when the cargo container is closed it would have a big number 4 on it.
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Jun 9 2005, 07:41 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Toulouse, France Member No.: 7,416 |
Ah, good find! :) I was trying (without success) to find the right translator for that on the Net. |
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Jun 9 2005, 08:13 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Oops sorry. In my defense it was late, I was dead tired, I hadn't read hermit's post and I was slightly elated at having something I designed on the cover. Sorta like Otaku Mike's Renault-Fiat logo hidden on the cover of SoE or the little tongue-in-cheek "Bistro Chez Robert", Klaus slipped in. (And yes, Critias I am making an exception to my promise exclusively for this thread :P). |
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Jun 9 2005, 10:29 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
I get brownie points! :D
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Jun 9 2005, 10:44 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I dunno, I think it's kind of a lazy pic. The troll's like "mmm...better throw a lightning bolt now....zap...", while Ms. ninja is all "right n, I ge to run up and try to whack some guy with my sword while he shoots me the whole way there!"
Cut to Mr. "street samurai" - "oops! caught me playing with my spurs again! I'll never live this down." And finally the androgynous semi-hip-hop-basketball-shorts-chinese-dwarf-tech-nerd-with-gadgets-everywhere-so-I-look-like-I-know-what-I'm-doing..... I dunno, I guess I'm just not a fan. It would be such a nice pic without... hmmm... the "shadowrunners". |
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Jun 9 2005, 10:46 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Frederiksberg, Denmark Member No.: 6,794 |
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the artwork. I gennerally love the art from Zug, he has done great things with atmosphere.
I don't like the placement and appearance of the runners. The flying drones and cars in the background seems to be scattered at random... not really going anywhere. ..a.nd there is just something "off" with the perspective... normally the depth lines of buildings would converge towards a single point in the horizon (can't remember the technical term). ....printing... drawing lines... maybe it mostly the building on the left that is off. Maybe it's to create some effect, but it dosen't work for me. Lack of atmosphere... maybe it would be a better if it was set at night... but mostly the appearance of the runners is lacking. maybe there are too many details?... well... that just my 2% of a cent... any comments? |
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Jun 9 2005, 10:45 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
To be honest, I didn't really notice 'till you said anything. As for the cover itself -- it could be worse, I guess. I like that it's back on the streets, I like that they got rid of (most of) the flying cars, I like the grittiness of the setting/background itself. I don't like that it looks like the opening credits to Action Johnny's Shadowrun Adventure Team ™. Cartoony stuff doesn't fit, for me, with the rest of Shadowrun. The street sam's handblade/spur looks almost completely useless (not to mention amazingly uncomfortable), and his gun is...unique, at best. His jacket looks about eight sizes too big for him, his feet look a few sizes too small, and I find it vaguely irritating that he's not doing anything (and everyone else is). The troll mage is, well, a big troll mage. At least they're fighting stereotypes. The elf adept ninja chick takes away the "at least" from the previous sentence. The dwarf still looks awful busy playing with a door that's already open, and is an unfortunate reminder of just how much sillier MC Hammer would have been if he was a 4'0" white guy wearing 3-D glasses. They do not scream "professionals" to me. Unfortunate. I don't hate it quite as much as SR3's cover, but it's for damned sure no Elmore. |
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Jun 9 2005, 11:05 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I like it somehow, despite the crappy ninja-elf-adept and the strange cyberweapon the human has impanted in his arm. But the overall impression is better than the 3rd BBB.
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Jun 9 2005, 11:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 31-March 05 From: Georgia Member No.: 7,270 |
LMAO :rotfl: |
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Jun 9 2005, 11:15 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
keep looking at it, still bugs me...
light source seems off on street sam, don't see a point to all the drones.... If I could just not look at it, I'd be fine and forget it.... but wait... this is the cover...and it's hard back...... crap I hink I liked the first version better |
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Jun 9 2005, 11:36 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,182 |
I just happen to know my Hiragana and Katakana so it was a breeze. It's also on the cover of Shadows of Asia. |
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Jun 9 2005, 11:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
...and yet another piece of SR art that makes dwarves look absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, where the hell does it say in the race descriptions that, aside from having shorter legs in proportion to their torsoes (but not as absurdly short as they usually do in SR art, or they wouldn't be able to walk...) dwarves also have strangely shaped massively oversized heads? And why the fuck always draw them as if they were 3' tall, rather than an average of 4'? It's also not very appropriate for a system in which body armor is life... I somehow don't see shorts and tank tops being popular SR gear, but I guess they had to go for that "traditional" 80's music video feel. |
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Jun 9 2005, 12:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 437 Joined: 11-April 05 Member No.: 7,318 |
It looks so static. Its like they are wax figures. They image is completely dead to my eyes.
None of them look particularly like they are in a hurry to get out of the soon to be bullet spray from the guys with the laser pointers. And the 'Sam looks horrible. The spur is way outta line. If he chucks that into someone, he's gonna have to place the pull away from him, transferring much less power than if the spur was on the top of his arm, so that he could rip it towards him. If it Must be placed below the arm, it would have been more effective going through the socket of the hand and between the fingers of a fist. |
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Jun 9 2005, 12:56 PM
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Jun 9 2005, 01:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
Once again, I'm dissapointed... by a thread in this forum. I think the art is great.
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