Infiltration Challenge, Examining situation variables Options

[Mace]

This is where any information gleaned from Galina would be so useful - determining just how/what we do upon seeing the target if she's aware and with any degree of freedom of action.

Without it - my vote would be simply drop her with the most expedient and silent method possible and carry her out - time to discuss, explain, get agreement? No - there's a schedule here.

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Talia Invierno]

Track 1:

Sounds like you're going with the "test out second door on the left", with slight and disappearing minority reservations about "shoot, loot and scoot" as to whether to talk (very briefly) first. Is that accurate?

The lock on the second door has definitely been used recently: oiled and in good working order. Ghost gets it open very quickly. To talk or not to talk notwithstanding, she has her quick take-down equipment ready. But she realises the room is empty even before she gets the door open all the way. There are signs of fairly recent occupation - Ghost thinks maybe yesterday or the day before - but the heat traces have faded.

A slightly rounded out room, same "style" as the hallway. Metal bunk with a thin, thin mattress, hanging from the wall by two (slightly rusted) heavy metal chains. A toilet to one side. Additional metal brackets embedded into the walls and in the centre of the floor. Add to the "female" smell definite flight/fight adrenaline trace - but they're almost unnoticeable against the sheer intensity of Ghost's own.


Track 2:

Still don't know whether to go with Crusher Bob's or Mace's approach to Galina, nor for that matter how Diamond would have arranged this particular meet. Standard arrangements would usually be by cellphone. Would it be face-to-face? Something of environment? A pre-meet "Alter Memory" spell has been suggested (Crusher Bob): is that being used?


Crusher Bob's:

Diamonds argument to the team about the ritual sample would be:

1 we have no particular attachement to the package

2 we have no positive character 'witnesses' for the package vs 'proven' positive character of Galina.

3 outing teams is something the shadow community, in general, would wish to discourage.

4 If we 'happen' to bring the package to our retained doctor, and the package 'happens' to leave some blood or hair behind, well it's hardly the team's fault, now is it?


Mace's:

Rather than making an offer up front given Galina's clamming up - and spilling too much about the run involved on...

She's in the target zone of the job we're about to undertake and we'd really rather not have to kill anyone - hell, we'd rather get out without any noise at all. Given she is on site though, nuetralizing her so she's no longer a threat to us may well be something we'll have to do. We've found out a couple small things that leave us wondering if standard techniques would be any damn good - couple funky rumours flying around about her.

AFTER seeing which way the wind is blowing after elaborating that far perhaps make the offer to supply Galina with the material..depends on just which way it is Galina seems to be going.

[Siege]

Ghost needs to stop, take thirty seconds and go through the Zen meditation to help her regain focus.

-Siege

[Talia Invierno]

That's after she's tried that.

[Siege]

Well frag. That answers the within or without scenario.

Notes to data bomb:

1. Some form of outside emotional stimuli affects personnel -- notably fear and panic

2. Astral currents strong, affecting astral forms

Which raises the question -- which direction is Trog being tugged?

-Siege

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Talia Invierno]

Whoosh! Three times in one day! :)

[Siege]

I'm not on the Galina discussion, so that'll have to wait for someone else.

As for Ghost's next move: I'd like to try another door.

I'd also like to see if she could scope out the physical location to which Trog is being tugged towards.

-Siege

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Wu Jen]

How would things have worked if the runners had blown the substation and knocked out the grid for several hours in this section of town?

Stop and take out the cleaning crew (possibly Mind contolling a few) and make up new *insert company name here* badges? Since normal cleaning crews have a high turnover rate in RL.

Staging a Humanis Policlub / Gang fight out front after their arrival at the building?

[Siege]

Assuming the building doesn't have it's own backup power generator, it would have put the entire building on high alert, making the sneak job harder to pull off.

Additionally, probably some degree of rioting in the streets, possibly bringing out the 'Star.

Although it wouldn't a bad "Just in Case" scenario.

-Siege

[Wu Jen]

The Lonestar showing up wouldn't be a bad thing if you had a couple of guys dressed out as lonestar and letting the building occupants know that the neighborhood was becoming unsafe and that they should evacuate the area and that lonestar was currently strapped for resources and would not be able to guarantee the safety of the occupants. Hopefully they would evacuate right? and it would be a prime time to either a). examine the building or b) nab the suspect.

Thoughts?

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Wu Jen]

[Siege]

What you're suggesting requires backtracking to the beginning of the hypothetical scenario.

We've advanced the scenario beyond the point where we could plant explosives at the local power grid substation.

Your suggestion makes for a good alternative approach, but not applicable at the moment.

-Siege

[Wu Jen]

[Siege]

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-Siege

[Talia Invierno]

Easy, there :)

Welcome to the boards and to the thread, Wu Jen.

The reason no one was able to "get" a member of the cleaning crew before was because of the extremely short notice on this run: basically 24 hours to carry out all research and retrieve the girl. That's it. Compounding the problem, there's some very specific entry patterns for cleaner shifts. The group tried, but the best they could manage in the time available was to track down the security company which had held the contract previously, along with some very useful entrance algorithms from security and cleaning company alike (which is part of what Ghost was using on the maglocks earlier).

The reason no one suggested previously the grid blackout was because of the drone-observed in-building generator and other apparent back-up systems. Places such as this, odds are evacuation is not something that happens.

Corporate extraterritoriality is an interesting thing. Would Lonestar have any authority whatsoever in a corporate building? Again, those relationships were more than the group was able to pull in the 12-odd hours they had before the shift change when they decided to try for the run.

The variant on gang fight is already a plan being implemented (see Diamond's current actions). We can easily make one of those gangs Humanis-sympathisers, if you wish.

Hopefully this addressed at least some of the question/debate you had :)

Track 1:

The physical location toward which Trogdor feels a slight current suction is toward the central room - but there, the current keeps going down the main (from elevator) hallway and continues down that corridor, which then curves and goes out of sight. He's not really anxious to go testing that further.

Door crack at the end of the hallway - very strong, very female.

Ghost gets the sudden sense someone's coming.

[Mace]

Two choices for Ghost - either get through the door now - or zip back to the already explored room and take cover - being ready to act if necessary. Has to get out of the corridor NOW though - if someone's coming to collect the extractee then she and perhaps Trogdor may have to act. My personal recommendation - back to the room already checked - and be ready to drop them if the someone coming is headed there. If comes back past with the extractee from the end room can then nail - and have fair idea of if she's willing to come along or needs to be dropped as well.

Track 2 - I don't think a physical meeting is necessary - or even desirable. We do have limited time, phone call works just fine for this and no need for extraordinary measures such as an Alter Memory spell. As for which approach - the one I've suggested remains rather non-commital - and the idea of handing out ritual samples when you're not exactly sure of how Galina feels about her - sound her out with the approach I've suggested and you can always up the stakes a little. It's a little hard to retract that sort of offer though if it turns out for some reason... - With mine - all we're asking really is if she's something out of the ordinary and if we'd need extraordinary measures to nuetralize in a non damaging way. *shrug*

My 0.02 :nuyen: - make of it what you will.

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Talia Invierno]

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Track 1:

I'm taking the back to the room already checked action as a given. A good two minutes - no one came. How long will Ghost wait? (She still has the feeling someone's coming, but it isn't as strong - like she's wondering if maybe she was wrong.)

Track 2:

No physical meeting then, just a phone call.

[Siege]

Shans, it is open to discussion at any point.

However, it was explained that moving back and retroactively changing planning steps that may or may not alter all the action to this point would be problematic at best.

After continuing to yelp, I politely suggested that if someone wasn't inclined to offer relevant suggestions, they could take their posts to a more receptive audience.

What I dislike is someone trying to upend a perfectly happy thread in the later stages because they don't agree with (incorrectly, in my opinion) some nuance in the thread itself.

-Siege