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 Aug 4 2005, 06:34 AM
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Resident Legionnaire  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550  |
Gone to Press
The cover looks a little better, though the picture is still silly. To still my mind I will adopt the "team leaving the facility" point of view. When I first saw that dwarf I thought : "Damn that's some hairy legs!" before i realized it was his pants. Looks like he should be on Monster Garage. That big Jamaican ork is sporting a pair of OICW's if I'm not mistaken. Sure, the project got canned, but kudos to the artist who at least looks at a few real guns before he draws one... |
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Aug 4 2005, 06:37 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
gack, was looking through the metahuman art and the ork picture... Is anybody else reminded of the the terrible 'Battlefield Earth' movie? The aliens played by Jon Travolta with the dreadlocks and such? <shudder>
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Aug 4 2005, 06:39 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
What about the neon sign hanging between the troll's legs?
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Aug 4 2005, 06:41 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
yeah, geez, yikes. The dwarf would've been cool if it wasn't for the ridiculous "I just did a sheep" pants. I liked the other art we saw before. These... not so much.
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Aug 4 2005, 07:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 18-October 03 From: Cal Free State Member No.: 5,734 |
I think the artist is very good, but the pics, not so much.
I really hope they aren't angling for a "cracked-out-raver-meets-yoyoyohomey" as a style for all of SR4... |
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Aug 4 2005, 08:39 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 16-March 05 Member No.: 7,175 |
In Shadowrun 4, all shadowruns will take place in raves. Johnsons are replaced with ecstasy dealers, corporations with narcs and guns, magic and drones with brightly coloured objects.
Heels are mandatory on all female characters, as are exposed midriffs and funky accessories. Funky accessories will increase your combat pool. |
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Aug 4 2005, 08:40 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Remember orxploitation?
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Aug 4 2005, 09:30 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I'm glad they darkened the picture up a little. I still think that Dwarf (which I still insist is a female) looks ridiculous. I still think the Troll looks ridicu--hold on, let's save time. "I still think they all look ridiculous."
But, well, at least it's dark. Darker, at least. |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:07 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 26-May 02 Member No.: 2,769 |
Nice frosty, you posted the link.. what minutes after the site changed? :)
Anyway, yes the art is "good" but not nearly as.. well realistic as i would want. I mean, i understand shadowrunners can be flamboyant freaks sometimes. But well, how about some art with what my SR characters look like.. hehe you know form fitting body armour stealthy mofo's. I mean, while i do have some characters that would look that freaky during downtime, while doing a run. Well to me its alot more corp and serious than random "no fat chicks" t-shirts and jeans. Which is kinda what the people seem to be wearing. The only thing I really feel sorry for is that poor street sam on the cover of the SR4 manual. That spur has got to hurt, or if its a bug spirit comming out.. well that makes more sense than having that weird ass spur out at that exact moment. Later all:) cya at Gencon:P |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:18 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
I think the dwarf is compensating for something with the joystick coming out of hhis belt. :rotfl:
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Aug 4 2005, 10:26 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
You're right, looks like he's got an Ares Compensator stuffed down there or somethin'
That being said, I do think that the artist is good. I like the dwarf's beard, I like the shading on the characters. I just don't like what he drew. I'd like to see more, just..... different. Especially the ork. Just once I'd like to see someone take a stab at drawing a semi-attractive ork or troll female. The ork on SOTA 2064 was neat. This post has been edited by fistandantilus3.0: Aug 4 2005, 10:38 AM |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:28 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Personally, I will adopt the "team is about to get slaughtered in a violent orgy of bullets and combat magic because they were stupid" point of view.
Darker than what? Butterflies and care bears? It's interesting to see that bell bottoms have made a comeback in 2070. I didn't hate the poseur retro-fashion enough the last time, you know, back in like 1996. Amateurs. The elf... The elf has freckles (Although I am reminded of the "can you blush" line from Blade II now). How dark... And... And... A crossbow. A friggin' crossbow! The ork needs to lose weight. Fat f*ck. The dwarf... Let's move on, shall we? The troll... actually looks pretty cool and maybe "darker", but let's not try and stretch things to where they don't belong. |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:54 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
I dont think going against your bigot ideals makes the art any worse. (in fact I think it makes it better) I´m happy with Echo´s style, hope she gets to do a lot of the artwork. It´s impressive that she has been able to adapt her sensual art nouveau to something that fits Shadowrun. |
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Aug 4 2005, 11:16 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Just wondering how useful he'd be on an infiltration op when the point is not to be seen or heard as the runners are crawling through the air ducts.
The view from your high horse must be nice, but I prefer the ground level with the rest of the snakes. |
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Aug 4 2005, 12:09 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
Some of the pictures (especially the ork...) look to me like she took a photo of a model and just drew on the tusks, the pointy ears, or the big hair. Actually, they all sort of look like that... Parts of the drawings just look flat compared to the rest, making it look like they were drawn on over a higher-quality picture.
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Aug 4 2005, 12:52 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Bunker Gate 7 [CaTCo Compound] Member No.: 4,248 |
It's seem to be a new version of the Trideo Sandwich Troll archetype from the old Ka-ge Magazine :D |
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Aug 4 2005, 01:17 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Paris, France Member No.: 6,074 |
Yes this dwarf is really amazing : useful joystick, nice sheep cloth... :grinbig: it seems that either the artist is a real fan of ZZTop or he don't want players to play dwarf in SR4 :D he's probably a friend of the man in charge of Gimli's dialog in the LOTR movies :P |
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Aug 4 2005, 01:23 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
This is Shadowrun. We call it the Ares Alpha here. ~J |
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Aug 4 2005, 01:32 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
I do. ;) Re: Cover --> I guess the FanPro logo will go in the upper left corner? Re: Art --> Overall pretty good. Remember these are the B/W illos for the metatype section... I'd love to know how did the archetypes turn out. I remember seeing the original color piece for the human a long time ago in SR's fan art mail list (didn't know it was for SR4, though). Excellent pic. I like the elf and that she's probably one of the few non-Tolkien-goddess-like elves we've seen in SR. :ork The crossbow is a neat detail --silent, efficient and multi-purpose (don't get me started on Green Arrow, though ;) ) That ork lady packs a serious punch, for sure. :wobble: Dwarf: Cool, though it took me a while to get the idea about those pants. The troll is definitely a mage. He could have enjoyed bigger shoulders, though. |
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Aug 4 2005, 01:40 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
The separation between the Troll on the cover and the B&W troll (*cough* head size *cough*) are distracting to me. I know there can be variations in individuals, etc. , etc..
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Aug 4 2005, 01:48 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
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Aug 4 2005, 02:41 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
*Splutter* Never used one, have you? ~J |
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Aug 4 2005, 02:56 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
I have and outfitted properly it can be pretty silent compared to just about any non-silenced gun (true that one doesn't look appropriately outfitted).
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Aug 4 2005, 03:12 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Well, yes, compared to any non-suppressed gun. I tend to have slightly more absolute requirements when it comes to the word "silent".
~J |
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Aug 4 2005, 03:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-February 02 From: England Member No.: 1,927 |
Not too keen on most of those pictures, but the dwarf's cool - those trousers remind me of the P.A.G.A.N. outfits from the Dragnet film, which is always good ;)
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