An anchient topic - Dunkelzahn's Will, TX - What the? |
An anchient topic - Dunkelzahn's Will, TX - What the? |
Aug 8 2005, 10:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 5-September 03 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Member No.: 5,585 |
Ok - we've all dug through the massive pile of tangled plot threads that comprised "Portfolio of a Dragon: Dunkelzahn's Secrets" (Many thanks to Anchient History, some explainations were really needed.)
My interest is in the entry thus reproduced: "To the elusive TX, whom I know exists, I leave 10 million nuyen on the condition that she come in from the shadows and report to the UCAS government for testing and training. I give her full assurances that she will not be harmed. I further authorize my executor to grant this same sum to any person or group of people who find TX and bring her, alive and undamaged, to any UCAS military installation. I authorize an additional 10 million nuyen for the hiring of qualified individuals to escort her safely home and, if necessary, to avenge any mistreatment of her with extreme prejudice." -Has there been any definitive conclusion to this one? Plot ides that do arise: 1: TX is an engineered being. - Ok, maybe I've seen too many "Dark Angel" episodes (It actually took me 15 minutes and a pile of Google-Fu to dig up the damn title, sheesh) but this option hasn't really (To my knowledge) been explored very deeply in the SR universe. 2: TX is an Immortal Elf/Human/Ork/Troll/Rock/Sentient Bunny/Dolphin. - Admittedly this supposes that Dunkie was expecting to be the Prez for a time AND that he'd have control or oversight over said testing. Hell, an Immortal Bunnie would be able to keep a bloody long and low-profile "watch" on the grassy woodland of choice. 3: TX is a Drake. - Oh yeah, let's keep the old Human/Scaly fetish flowin'. Again, not at all sure why the UCAS Govmn't would be of use regarding testing, etc, apart from officially establishing the emergence of a new species. Or maybe having an "All American Dragon" in uniform would drum up numbers at the local recruitment centre. 4: TX has been given/accquired innate Magic, when they should be mundane. - Woohaa! If, and this is a monsterous IF, such a thing has happened...well. The massive and world-wide implications of such a thing happening are staggering. "Implant this, and you've got a magic rating - do the kids to and we'll throw in a 20% discount!" IMHO, too world-changing and Loffy would sit on or eradicate it out of habit. 5: TX has had something "odd" implanted, something that shouldn't have existed. - I haven't played Earthdawn or read deeply in its convoluted pages, but another long-shot "what if" is a magic/machine interface, Old-school mojo mixed with bleeding-edge headware. Use could be patchy without training in the necessary thought forms needed to "synch" with the machine (a Wireless, essence-free datajack/Remote control/deck?) All are, well, unlikely. The Drake idea is up there, but so was the far-fetched "Friendly Invidae Queen" idea that I forgot to throw up above. Thoughts, ideas, flames, solid intel? -Tir. |
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Aug 8 2005, 10:43 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I'm sure TX isn't a Drake - Dunkie would never give the UCAS military the possibility to capture a drake and research it.
I like the Dark Angel idea though. |
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Aug 8 2005, 10:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 4-September 04 Member No.: 6,628 |
Yeah the Dark Angel thing is what I lean most towards also.
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Aug 8 2005, 10:57 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Any decision yet if TX is hiding of the UCAS military because of bad treatment/fear? Maybe an escpaed test subject which the Army wants back?
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Aug 8 2005, 11:01 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
It in his will, so by the time it gets executed, he's dead, by definition. Why not spit in the eyes of all the other dragons on the way out? It's not like they could hurt him... |
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Aug 8 2005, 11:30 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
But why should he handle a drake to the UCAS military? Because he's a patriot? I doubt that.
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Aug 8 2005, 05:27 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
There are many possibilities. A normal metahuman with a natural immunity of VITAS or HMHVV. A ghoul who doesn't have to eat flesh. A vampire who doesn't suffer from Essence loss.
The choice of terminology in interesting. "Undamaged" is used instead of "unharmed" or "uninjured". Perhaps TX is a machine. A sentient drone; An AI; A sentient drone that possesses an Aura; A spirit bound to a computer that can somehow jack into the matrix through its homunculus. The posibilities are endless. |
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Aug 8 2005, 11:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
reminds me of two other terms we currently use; RX and NX, RX means reaction, or recieve, NX is a prefix applied to experimental craft. Sometimes TX means transmit or transaction. One of the rules of physics is that energy cannot be created or detroyed, and a theme in SR is that everything comes at a cost.
Into where? Into the government's hands, or maybe into the Manasphere? Which shadows? The metaphorical shadows we run or real shadows, perhaps such as those cast by the moon, or other celestial bodies? (Besides, I heard something about how we only see one side of the moon, is that true? )
what sort of testing and training? the need to train (for whatever reason) this specific individual/being/entitity suggests that they are both 1. Unique and 2. Irreplacable (either due to being unreplicatable by the laws of nature, magic or science, or simply being cost prohibative, the fact that the Will allows for so much Yen in the pursuit of TX further supports the idea she is irreplacable.) That being said, if something is both unique and irreplacable, studying it and understanding it is usually the primary goal, and yet Dunklezahn and the government already have a specific task in mind for which she is to be trained.
suggests she cannot be captured or brown bagged in the traditional sense, that the parties returning her must accompany her, or travel alongside.
suggests to me that she will not be brought in unless she cooperates on some level. to gain this cooperation, she'll want certain wrongs rectified.
I propose that TX is a sentient space ship. Organic or mechanical or magical or some combination of the above. She may or may not be Earthly in origin, and she may or may not potentially be capable of generating or supporting some level of a portable manasphere. TX may or may not be capable of interstellar travel ( as a generational ship, stasis ship, but probably not as an FTL considering SR prohibitions against time space meddling.) and may be intended to spread humanity's seed amongst the stars as a safegaurd during the next coming of the Horrors or to protect the human race from being wiped out by ETs. (After all we do keep all our eggs in one basket here on Earth.) The implications of the term "training," however suggest to me that TX will be expected to function on her own, rather than be directed or accompanied by people as we know them, therefore perhaps it is more likely that TX is expected to operate as a space probe ( or a sleeper ship) of some sort. There are some incidental (probably unrelated although not necessarily) items in the Will, but there are themes in his goals. Among them, magic that can be manipulate by mundanes, manaspheres outside the Earth's, bolthole communities in orbit and under the sea, preservation of humanity, and so forth. Then again, that's one possibility. |
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Aug 8 2005, 11:35 PM
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But aren't there notes in some of the sourcebooks (I can't remember which ones, unfortunately), with her posting intimate knowledge of the Matrix and how to hack it. (One I remember was her telling people who to get into a system locked with a vanishing SAN, and the reply from the other decker was simply: "Cunning slot.") That would seem to limit our choices.
My personal guess is that she's a magically active otaku, though I readily admit that that's because it's one of the most fringe things I could think of. But it explains her skill with the Matrix and her uniqueness/desireability for study (since the rules expressly forbid such things). It also perfectly meshes with Dunkelzahn's desire to integrate magic and technology. |
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Aug 8 2005, 11:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 6-March 03 Member No.: 4,211 |
I like the idea of an escaped robot, like the one in I, Robot. I see the additional 10 million is to be paid to runner's basically, to escort her to UCAS once she's willing, then to be put on retainer to seek vengeance against anyone that ever tries to harm her.
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Aug 9 2005, 12:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
maybe she's a ship that can access the 'trix?
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Aug 9 2005, 01:11 AM
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What about a Free Spirit that is able to access the matrix?
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Aug 9 2005, 01:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
or a dykoted free spirit in the shape of a spaceship that can access the 'trix? ps: what's the target number to hump one? |
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Aug 9 2005, 02:29 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
The free spirit decker aspect was suggested in the Denver Sb, so I doubt they would pull it out again, but...
The name, TX, seems to imply something to me (THX1138, to the point), and then additionally "testing and training": what could the UCAS military train a free spirit in? I doubt it would be decking. I lean towards some kind of drake like creation, only of human making. Some combination of human DNA and free spirit essence, perhaps. |
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Aug 9 2005, 03:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
I tend to agree with the idea that TX is something created, by some kind of project. |
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Aug 9 2005, 03:05 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
I think maybe a biomechanical robot possessed by a free spirit, or maybe an ally spirit in a biomechanical homunculus.
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Aug 9 2005, 03:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Interstellar otaku cyberzombie shedim ninja shifter adept.
It is the only true answer. |
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Aug 9 2005, 04:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
:cyber: can it be dykoted???? :D |
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Aug 9 2005, 06:24 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
Yup i beleive that is true, the moon doesn't rotate. I think this because of the term "Dark side of the moon" which is frequently used in reference to something on the otherside that is safe from prying eyes on Earth. Back on topic. I'm going with Drake, Free Spirit or Magically Active Otaku. |
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Aug 9 2005, 06:28 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
TX is a giant midget... she has been able to hide thusfar because she appears to just be a regular sized human...
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Aug 9 2005, 06:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 485 Joined: 25-October 04 Member No.: 6,789 |
How about a magical talent that lets her lend her skills to a large number of people? Would be the most valuable commodity of all.
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Aug 9 2005, 07:41 AM
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Actually the moon does rotate. If it didn't, we'd be able to see all sides of it from different parts of the earth. The moon's rotation is synched with its revolution around the earth in such a way that the same side is always facing us.
OSUMacbeth |
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Aug 9 2005, 08:15 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Why didn't I see it before. It is so obvious.
TX is a robot sent from the future to terminate John Conner. She failed in her mission and thus her future no longer exists, however she was able to make millions by turning her story into the script for Terminator 3:Rise of the Machines. She has been using the procedes from the movie to hide out ever since. |
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Aug 9 2005, 08:58 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Ah, i see: Dunkie wanted retribution for T3. I can understand him, the movie sucked. :D
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Aug 9 2005, 01:02 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
I vote for a mantid spirit with a good merge in a cyberzombie.
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