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post Aug 16 2005, 11:15 PM
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Second update is on the main SR site. Map of North America and a two-page character sheet!

(God, I love RSS. :D )
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:19 PM
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Damn it! I was hoping for more text from the book! Not something that leaves me sitting here with nothing to change my mind!

Well, they might put on a couple more. I hope.
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:21 PM
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Looks like Salish-Sidhe annexed the neighbor to the north. PCC did likewise with the Ute. Yucatan looks to be a new nation. There is still no State of Northern virginia. Texas is still divided. Looks like its going to be a interesting 5 years.
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (Sabosect @ Aug 16 2005, 05:19 PM)
Damn it! I was hoping for more text from the book! Not something that leaves me sitting here with nothing to change my mind!

Well, they might put on a couple more. I hope.

Well the PC sheet does suggest a similarity in rules dealing with Technomancers and Mages in regards to both the Magic/Resonance attributes and Spirits/Sprites.

The space in the layout for the Magic/Resonance value also suggests they don't expect a given PC to have both. So no Otaku tossing around Manabolts, if you were looking for that kind of thing. ;)
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:26 PM
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Just noticed, but what happened to Southern California?
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Starglyte)
Looks like Salish-Sidhe annexed the neighbor to the north. PCC did likewise with the Ute. Yucatan looks to be a new nation. There is still no State of Northern virginia. Texas is still divided. Looks like its going to be a interesting 5 years.

Wasn't the Yucatan the center for the RCC backed rebellion? I guess they made some headway.
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:30 PM
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Check out the Baja California. Someone NUKED SAN DIEGO OUT OF EXISTENCE. The peninsula south of California is now an island. Ute is pretty much absorbed into PCC along with most of California. SSC seems to have wrestled down Tshimshian (seems the Japanacoorps are gonna take quite a beating). Yucatan gains independence (about time). No Texas republic, though. Seems Patrick didn't get his way after all.

Seems there's gonna be quite the shakeup. I'd love to see a world map.
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:39 PM
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A big chunk of California is missing, Megaquake?
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:39 PM
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Meteor showers and tidal waves, obviously.

"...learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona Bay!"

Sorry, having a flashback to HS days. :P
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Bandwidthoracle)
A big chunk of California is missing, Megaquake?

Remember how they said "some places are gonna be nuked out of existence"? Maybe Winternight had a test run with their nuclear weapons focus ...

I just wonder why everyone has it out for San Diego. It's not like that hasn't been done in Star Trek, Babylon 5 and a host of other systems and shows already.
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:46 PM
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Don't forget Jurassic Park II
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post Aug 16 2005, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (blakkie)
Well, they might put on a couple more. I hope. [/QUOTE]
Well the PC sheet does suggest a similarity in rules dealing with Technomancers and Mages in regards to both the Magic/Resonance attributes and Spirits/Sprites.

The space in the layout for the Magic/Resonance value also suggests they don't expect a given PC to have both. So no Otaku tossing around Manabolts, if you were looking for that kind of thing. ;)

And, it appears that the number of damage boxes is dependent on the body stat and, therefore, variable instead of the 10 we are used to.

In addition, we also we have a few more items to take care of now. Like street cred. I wonder how big of a stat that is.
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:16 AM
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Hahaha. Wow. And I thought that the ridiculously incorrect stereotypes in CFS was the silliest thing they could do to California.

Apparently in five years they've made about ten million years worth of geologic changes, many of which seem to have little basis in geology or geography. You get magnitude 8 quakes every 100 years or so. Apparently there were magnitude 8 quakes about every four hours for five years straight. Pretty cool, huh?

Japan must have been pretty irritated with the 10-meter tsunamis hitting its shore ten or so times a day, too, for that whole time. (Cause they'd be hit both by the south-of-LA and north-of-Santa Barbara quakes.) Maybe that's what happened to old Tokyo--all the tidal waves from the massive earthquakes in CA wiped it out!
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:18 AM
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I guess the authors read "hammer of god" and coupled that with winternight's nuke weapon focus (imagine, anuke you can g and whack spirits to oblivion with!). *shrugs*
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:27 AM
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The damage caused there is about the equivalent of a hundred million large nuclear warheads, which would probably roast everything within a 1000km radius of the blast. This is mass-extinction-event-asteroid scale. Although I suppose one could set off a single nuclear weapon once a second for the entire five years. That would at least probably not make the planet entirely uninhabitable (except possibly from radiation fallout).
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Ellery)
The damage caused there is about the equivalent of a hundred million large nuclear warheads, which would probably roast everything within a 1000km radius of the blast. This is mass-extinction-event-asteroid scale. Although I suppose one could set off a single nuclear weapon once a second for the entire five years. That would at least probably not make the planet entirely uninhabitable (except possibly from radiation fallout).

Not saying it makes perfect sense (and I guess somehow spirits were involved in this, they have to to explain this), I just interpreted the map and thought of a likely scenario. :)

And I would not fancy living in SoCal after that blast anyway.
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:57 AM
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Somehow I doubt that "spirits" is a good answer to managing an event with enough energy to cause the extinction of 90% of all species on the planet, unless spirits have gotten a few million times more potent while we weren't looking.
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (Ellery)
Somehow I doubt that "spirits" is a good answer to managing an event with enough energy to cause the extinction of 90% of all species on the planet, unless spirits have gotten a few million times more potent while we weren't looking.

Never turn your back to spirits, you never know what weird ideas they might get, like sinking landmasses. ;)

this mustn't nescessarily have come in a blast though. It's possible the SA rift just crumbled as a magma chamber emptied (for whatever reason and to whereever), and hence, we had 'only' massive land sinking. Add some angry earth spirits to that (a lot of them), and you can get this done without massive blasts. You'd still have to deal with impressive tsunamis, though.

I guess we should be glad Winternight didn't watch that documentary about the supervolcano below Yellowstone after having read "hammer of god".
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:10 AM
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Kick-ass spirits with earth shaping powers? Then you don't need to worry about the messy, low efficency nukes tossing off wasted energy in radiation, heat, and dust.

Of course that is still only a slightly kinder shade of hokey.
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:11 AM
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Maybe there was a riot at UCLA and ten billion protesting mages each cast move earth ten thousand times in a row!
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:13 AM
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While a nuke was detonated below them, eliminating all evidence. Heh.

Well, I still stick with the original "hammer of god and collapsing San Andreas rift" theory. It does make sense, if you check out what has been submerged. well, sense as in "it's a likely explanation".

Lucky us the rift didn't sink fully. Seattle lies on it's northern fringe.
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:35 AM
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Well, the San Andreas is a fault, not a rift, and it's a right-lateral strike-slip fault. Strike-slip faults don't really sink like that; the Pacific plate is sliding northwards relative to the North American plate, not ramming into it (which one could pretend to get massive subduction from). Also, the photoshopped map doesn't match the fault line very well. The fault goes straight through the Bay Area, but the splitting just kind of stops in the middle of nowhere (and miraculously spares Santa Barbara--maybe the author went to school there?), and Baja seems to be just fine, and there's no explanation for that strange wedge (it's not as though it's all low in the now-watery area; there's a whole mountain range there, with 5500 foot peaks!).

Still, your theory sounds a lot like something that would be offered as an explanation. To someone who knows a bit about geology and earth science, the explanation is about as credible as the kid who is caught with his hand stuck in the cookie jar, with cookie crumbs on his lips, and the cookies half gone, who offers as explanation, "Martians ate them!"

But even so, it's more credible than a nuke blasting all that material into...um...another dimension, or something, since I don't see mountain-sized chunks lying all over CA. That's only as credible as, "Martians brought Elvis down and he ate them!'
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:52 AM
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I somehow now don't regret not having System Failure.

Thank you for the wonderful insight into the massive lack realism and believability on Fanpro's part (And yet I had a freelancer call me unrealistic. How rich).

Also, it look like Antonio Popé definitely was betting on the wrong horse.

OBTW, it's worse than that. Los Angeles is an island, which is just fucking ridiculous.
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:56 AM
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It is kind of hard to turn a basin into an island.
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You think!?!

This is so retarded it's not even funny.
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