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post Aug 22 2005, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Steadfast)


Anyway, as a great software corp once historically declared:

It's done, when its done, no earlier, but no later.

So, stay cool, it WILL be available, I am very sure about that.

*chuckles* Which is a horrible development model in all honesty, despite, despite what Id software has managed to produce. Just because you produce a good product, doesn't mean your strategy at developing it is good.
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post Aug 22 2005, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Steadfast @ Aug 22 2005, 12:14 PM)
Why is it that people almost allways seem to think and say

- HEY, YO, SALESMAN! Me wanna to buy so MOVE!

However, that's not what happened here. A more accurate example would be if the salesman said "our merchandise will be available Thursday"; come Thursday morning, you show up at his office and there's a big "on vacation - be back next week" sign hanging there....
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post Aug 22 2005, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Spookymonster)
QUOTE (Steadfast @ Aug 22 2005, 12:14 PM)
Why is it that people almost allways seem to think and say

- HEY, YO, SALESMAN! Me wanna to buy so MOVE!

However, that's not what happened here. A more accurate example would be if the salesman said "our merchandise will be available Thursday"; come Thursday morning, you show up at his office and there's a big "on vacation - be back next week" sign hanging there....

Point taken.
anyway, at least they decided to anounce it, albeit a bit on the short notice side, agreed.

Ah well. We'll see.

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post Aug 22 2005, 05:18 PM
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Apart from the unlucky announcement ...
I am looking forward to Shadowrun 4th ed since it was first announced. Having checked srrpg.com every day for news, scaned whatever I found - I finally cant stand it anymore and just want to have this book and read it - I even got me some vacation myself so I would have the time to read it as soon as the pdf has been announced...
(And please dont tell me I should have come to gencon. Its a (one way) 16h trip from my place (not to the con but to the city ... I'm living in Europe ;) ... Not to mention the costs )
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post Sep 3 2005, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE (Blacken @ Aug 19 2005, 06:36 AM)
I'm not buying the hardcopy.

Also, SLJames--eight to ten hours is a little excessive...six hours or so would be more along the lines I'm thinking of for a doc of that size.

It took me 7.5-8 hours to bookmark my "Fixed" Fourth Edition PDF.
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post Sep 3 2005, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (tirsales)
(And please dont tell me I should have come to gencon. Its a (one way) 16h trip from my place (not to the con but to the city ... I'm living in Europe ;) ... Not to mention the costs )

Well, you can try the Speil Fair in Essen (Germany) where FanPro D should have the book on sale...
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post Sep 3 2005, 12:07 PM
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That's 6 weeks in the future! argh! Guess the english version of the BBB will be available a lttle sooner. And reminding of the last horribly translated books, i'll buy the english one.
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:09 PM
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Anyway, so the project is done. I have in just over 12 man hours done a better job than Adam did, and I did it on-time and under budget.

I even decided to keep the color plates for the inside cover and sample characters so it's now a ginormous 52.4 MB. It loads quickly. It prints. It's just plain better in every conceivable way (and like I said, Reader 7's search function is more of an annoyance and impediment that in any way useful).

They should just use my version as the fixed version.
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:12 PM
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I would never buy a PDF that I couldn't Copy/Paste from or Search from. Yours may be easy to print, but it lacks the main quality that I seek when I want a PDF, that of searchable, highlightable, and copyable text.

Just to keep your ego in check, bub. *cheesy grin*
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (SL James @ Sep 3 2005, 04:09 PM)
Anyway, so the project is done. I have in just over 12 man hours done a better job than Adam did, and I did it on-time and under budget.

I even decided to keep the color plates for the inside cover and sample characters so it's now a ginormous 52.4 MB. It loads quickly. It prints. It's just plain better in every conceivable way (and like I said, Reader 7's search function is more of an annoyance and impediment that in any way useful).

They should just use my version as the fixed version.

What was your budget? ;)

EDIT: Ick, ya put me down for giving a pass to something i can't text search.
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:14 PM
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You do have to admit, you're working with a simplified version. Updating its contents to reflect errata is probably impossible. Still, I like yours better than my original, at the moment. It loads in the neighborhood of 10-30 times faster (under one second per page versus 5-15, and my machine is beefy), has correct bookmarks (some of the base version's bookmarks lead to points a page or two inside the chapter), and seems to print just fine (base version caused the campus print queue to commit suicide and take all pending documents on that printer with it).

The original version was pretty much unusable due to the slow render-time of each page, outside of a printed format. It was also unprintable. This version is usable and printable, hence I deem it superior on the fronts that matter. Being able to search for text is nifty, but if you can't flip through it or even print a hardcopy for manual pageflipping, it's a hollow feature.

What was the process that you put it through, James, from start to finish? The guys at FanPro might consider keeping a heinous and unusuable (but editable) reference copy around and then somehow automating your process to create actual usable (but static) copies for distribution from the nonstatic-but-nonusable reference.
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:21 PM
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My budget was $0. This was a labor of frustration. My rate for compensation, however, is not even close to $0. The last time I had an hourly rate, it was $200/hr.

I opened the file in Reader 7. I copied each page, pasted it in a new file in Photoshop 7, converted to grayscale (except for the covers, and I have both color and B&W for the inside cover and sample characters), saved as PNGs, opened Acrobat Pro 6. Created a PDF from each grouping of PNGs (done by chapter), saved as individual chapters, then created a PDF from the collection of chapter PDFs plus PNGs of the front and back covers.

That took 4 hours.

It took me 8 to bookmark the whole thing. I also add font decoration to identify chapter, subchapter, etc. for when you get pretty well nested (such as in The Wireless World or Skills). I then saved the file.

Wireknight was helpful enough to make suggestions, and so he's seen the final product. I plan to print it out at school tomorrow when no one's around.
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:33 PM
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Damn, I wish I had photoshop so I could do that with my copy.
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OBTW, my version is also more deeply bookmarked than Fanpro's which is probably why it took me so long.
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