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 Aug 23 2005, 09:50 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 2-April 03 From: PHX Member No.: 4,367  |
In case no one has said it yet: Wireless is hella good because it reintigrates riggers and hackers into the game. |
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 Aug 23 2005, 10:01 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I'm confused, it says your account is over 2 years old? Yet it seems unclear to you that SR is not a game for frivolity? It is about simulating the real 6th world in as much painful detail as psuedo scientific reckonin' and applied contemporary arcane knowledge can muster. Please get with the DSF program or your Happy-Fun Chip™ will be forcefully and permanently unjacked. Thankyou. |
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Aug 24 2005, 12:39 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,720 |
I'll attempt to bring back on topic with a little comment of my own as far as legends and segue into WL security, how about that? :) Let's talk about Legendary people in hacking/security today (no, I don't mean Adrian Lamo). Let's take Stephen Northcutt - famed for his days with the US Navy's SHADOW(?) project, his work with counter-intel practices, and his eventual promotion of the SANS training courses for IT security professionals. Mister Northcutt has written a ton of books on TCP/IP and general network security and Packet analysis - all excellent reads and all pertinent to a wide range of security topics. He's widely regarded as one of the foremost knowledge-fonts for network-based security. In short, a legend in the security and hacking communities. Does Mister Northcutt have a hacking skill of 10? Hardly. I know people on the street that could put a wrinkle on his brow when it comes to packet analysis and manipulation, and it is often people on the street that innovate the newest attacks. So why is Mister Northcutt a legend? It's not because he has a hacking skill of 7 (or whatever the case may be). Instead his skills run the gamut of Knowledge Skills on a wide variety of topics that are all pertinent to Security that a street-hacker will not possess in their 2-3 years of experience. Mister Northcutt brings to the table an immense breadth of experience in dealing with bureaucracies, cutting through red tape, understanding strategic security, and above all for "getting" the big picture. Your average street hacker will probably have a hacking skill in the area of 3 or 4, will understand how to DoS a router to get at the Access Control Lists and insert a back door, what to do with the root kit, and (rarely) how to cover his tracks. Joy - people like that are a dime a dozen. Legends (not necessarily Mister Northcutt) understand the theories behind transmission protocols, how to manipulate protocols themselves, and who to really hit for data. They understand network backbone topologies and above all *where* to get this data as it is updated because they have contacts in the industry. They understand not only who to hit for data but whom to sell it to for best bang for the buck. And finally, when the Fit hits the Shan, they know who to blame for a possible break-in and how to do so. This constitutes not only a good hacking skill (in the area of 5-6), but also a wealth of backup skills to gain the information that hacking itself will not get you. It includes social skills for social engineering when the data just isn't available to an electronic hacker. And finally...contacts. I can't say enough for this last one. A contact (or multitude thereof) will get you information, resources, and backup that you will *not* get as a non-legendary, off-the-street hacker-type. So how does this relate to Wireless Security? Well here's a quick example. Off-the-street Wireless Hacker - Hacking 4-5 - Etiquette (Street) 2 - Decent low-profile war-driving deck / laptop - Car-mounted Antenna for increased signal - Crappy car - Lotz uv Warez (that he doesn't fully understand but read a post on a message board about, and can kinda get running) Legendary Wireless Hacker - Hacking 6-7 - Electronics 3-4 - Knowledge (Software Engineering) 5 - Knowledge (Law) 2 - Etiquette (Street) 4 - Etiquette (Corp) 4 - Stealth 2 - Awesome low-profile war-driving PDA jury-rigged for increased signal - Warez that he posted to the internet and that he fully understands The Legendary hacker of today can get all this data without even having a PDA/laptop/deck on them. They can bluff their way into a building pretending they are someone else, sit down at an empty cube, reboot a box with the proper procedures to get admin/root, formulate an attack based on the situation, and all while fending off inquisitive real employees by pointing at the fake bluetooth earpiece he isn't really having a conversation on. Our standard Shadowrun Hacker should be somewhere inbetween the run-of-the-mill hacker and the legendary hacker. Now...some may argue that the Hacking / Decking skill in Shadowrun is supposed to constitute a totality of hacking skill. If so, then someone bring a Ninjutsu skill into the game that also encompasses stealth, swords, throwing stars, and totally flipping out and being a badass ;) |
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Aug 24 2005, 01:46 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I know. That's why I specified that it was hashing. The process of finding weaknesses to allow finding collisions in less than brute-force time is similar to finding cryptographic weaknesses, however.
Except that's complete bullshit, because they were never deintegrated. ~J |
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