 SR4 attempted summary, What tisoz et al have told us thus far |
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 Aug 22 2005, 03:26 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992  |
Spanish (native) English Portuguese Italian (studied it at highschool one year, can understand a bit here and there...) French (studied it at school one year, go figure) I can also understand some Catalan, thanks to my Catalonian cousins. :spin: Romanic languagues have similarities that allow you to pick up some concepts (a bit like German and English, if only better ;) ). I wasn't able to learn Korean with my father in my childhood, and the only place to learn it here nowadays had to close because the Embassy cut the funds a few years ago. It sucks. :( (I could try to learn on my own if I had the time, tough, as I have a few grammar books and a couple dictionaries somewhere) |
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Aug 22 2005, 06:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 400 |
Is that list of skill groups complete? Is Jumping not part of the Athletics skill group? Is jumping included in Gymnastics?
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Aug 22 2005, 07:16 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Jumping is part of Gymnastics. It's complete, unless I've made a mistake somewhere (which may very well be possible). |
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Aug 22 2005, 09:41 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Let me add in to that. I know a couple of people who have failed brutally in doing so (though all of them are exchange students from either China or Africa). However, what an exchange student is expected to know ... well, a friend showed me ther test she had to take. I'd have been kicked out. I never bothered to learn actual grammar, al my language skills go by instinct. Guess that explains why my English tends to be a bit weird sometimes. :grinbig: No really, mastering German is no easy thing. As Mark Twain said (I think it was him, at least): It takes three weeks to learn English, three months to learn French, and three lifetimes to learn German. Oh, and my humblest respects and deepest thanks to Talia, who made this thread possible and collected all the information from about a dozen threads. |
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Aug 22 2005, 11:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 17-June 03 From: A safehouse about to be compromised by ninjas Member No.: 4,754 |
Bestest.
Thread. Evar. Thanks chummer (no mention of chummer in sr4, dont let it die) |
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Aug 23 2005, 03:03 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
And again, tomorrow is another day. Glad it's of some use.
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Aug 23 2005, 03:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Don't forget the info in the stickies.
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Aug 23 2005, 07:02 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Bunker Gate 7 [CaTCo Compound] Member No.: 4,248 |
Can someone cas Stick this topic too? I think it will be very useful to have it sticked...
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Aug 23 2005, 07:20 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
About the skill level description flavor text: don't the Marines outclass the SWAT team, and not the other way around?
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Aug 23 2005, 07:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,094 |
That depends, really.
Don't forget that a 2050+ SWAT team is HTR unit, constantly exposed to an urbanized, lawless warzone. -RM |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:28 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
And Marines aren't?
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Aug 23 2005, 07:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 7,548 |
Well, if you want to get picky, I'd imagine the Marines are not exactly in full force anymore in 2070. And they probably get downtime. :P
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Aug 23 2005, 07:32 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Marines overall are a large, middling military organization. Sure, likely to a man/woman they'd kick my pansy ass. But in the scheme of things military, as a group they aren't really as elite as they like to tell themselves. |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:36 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
I'd bet on Marines over any non-special forces ground pounding units from any branch in ground combat / assault situations.
Then again, I have a lot of Marine buddies, so I'm a little biased. Point is, the skill generalizations are likely not based on SR world but rather our world. Just because our SWAT team is SR's FRT doesn't mean that the SR equivalent of Marine or other assault type units aren't equally beefed up. |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,094 |
Understatement of the century. However, such a subscription is required to play the role of expendable cannon-fodder. A necessary role, naturally, and one that commands a great deal of respect to fufill... ...But definitely not respect culled from individualized badassitude. -RM |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:41 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Erm, which is why FastJack, Captain Chaos, Wolfgang Kies, and Doc Raven are on that list? :) Along with other references like Mr. Johnson, go-ganger, Ancients go-ganger, Hatchetman, Matador, etc. I think most of the generalizations are for the SR4 universe, personally, but they use other references from our timeframe and from history (Albert Einstein, the Wright Brothers, The Red Baron). There's no way to really know for sure, unless they put "Lone Star" in front of the general profession name. |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,094 |
Enh. Maybe. They're certainly capable of turning into a frenzied rabid force. But I'd definitely evaluate the threat, terrain, and parameters of victory before I considered Marines as a shoe-in. As a whole, they do maintain the highest level of discipline amoung the various branches of service, though, yes. |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:47 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Oh, that is where they are? That isn't nearly as bad as giving there full stats. I thought Fanpro had published a full set of attributes, skills, gear, qualities, etc. One little peak at the skill number ain't no big thing, as long as they are at the rocking top. |
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Aug 23 2005, 07:55 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Oh, no. The only place where a full list of spells/skills/etc. are published for any Prime Runner is in the "Prime Runner" sourcebook. Michael Sutherland is there, along with some other interesting folk. |
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Aug 23 2005, 08:13 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
I remember back in high school, Airborne being compared to Samurai in bad assness.
To be fair to SWAT and Marine arguement going on, many SWAT members are former military including marines. |
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Aug 23 2005, 08:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 445 Joined: 18-August 05 Member No.: 7,567 |
Age old rule...if you give it stats, it can be killed.
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Aug 23 2005, 08:26 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
That isn't giving the statS. Hell it isn't even giving the full value of a single dice pool. It is one 1/3 the information about an hypothetical dice pool. |
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Aug 23 2005, 08:30 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
blakkie, you are confusing stats with attributes.
yours truly, that lucky fucking bastard |
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Aug 23 2005, 08:37 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
No i'm not. :P Unless there is more there than i'm lead to believe, the plural form does not apply. Further does listing his name there really give any meaningful, usable information about the character that you didn't already know? Of course not, it is using information you already know about Fastjack to try tell you something general about the Skill levels. |
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Aug 23 2005, 08:47 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Maybe in D&D. Round here, legendary characters are smart enough not to post their home addresses in the white pages. Good luck finding him to kill him in the first place. |
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