 ETA of street magic, when will it come...? |
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 Aug 25 2005, 08:52 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 21-August 05 Member No.: 7,586  |
i know this might be a 'bit' early, but does anyone have a clue, when street magic is supposed to hit the streets?
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Aug 25 2005, 10:20 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I would guess 12/2005 or early 2006. They still have to put ot SoLA and the location book (forget the title) before that.
Oh, and System Failure. :D |
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Aug 25 2005, 10:27 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Germany Member No.: 2,102 |
@Grinder
The Locations Book is called "Runners Heaven" |
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Aug 25 2005, 10:42 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Thanks. :)
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Aug 25 2005, 12:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
I thought it was called "Runner Havens"
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Aug 25 2005, 02:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Usually under a cat Member No.: 864 |
I'm not sure when Street Magic is due out, but before it come the GM Screen/Booklet, Runner Havens, and On the Run (unless the schedule changes), all of which are currently being written.
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Aug 25 2005, 03:14 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
And System Failure. And SoLA. That's a lot. Hm, Street Magic in the end of 2006, given their speed on releases? :eek:
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Aug 25 2005, 03:19 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
SoLA will not be a normal book release, so it doesn't really factor into the schedule. And as far as I know, System Failure is effectively done, and is just caught up in the whole printing/distribution process.
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Aug 25 2005, 04:51 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Oh, that's the first time i read some information about the status of it here. Somewhere was mentioned that's it's written, ok, but no information if it's already been shipped.
Seems to me as if FanPro don't want it to get sold, as they're making no big rumour about it... |
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Aug 25 2005, 07:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Usually under a cat Member No.: 864 |
System Failure is done. Anything making it late at this point is printer/binder/distributor issues. I don't know exactly when it'll be out (I know they tried to have it for Gen Con but it didn't work out, so it's got to be reasonably close) but I suspect we'll be hearing something about it pretty soon. |
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Aug 25 2005, 09:03 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
We tried to get some copies done via a Print on Demand service for GenCon, and they told us they would have X number of copies for Wednesday, and in their world X = 0. Then they could us they would have X-Y on Friday, and that was also 0.
System Failure /is/ finished and will be going to press very soon. As mentioned at the What's up with FanPro seminar, Shadows of Latin America will be released online-only via the HoloStreets.com service when it launches later this year. |
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Aug 25 2005, 09:19 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
lol :wobble: |
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Aug 25 2005, 09:20 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
What´s Holostreet? My google search didn´t give any clues and the webb page itself has no usefull info.
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Aug 25 2005, 09:35 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
HoloStreets is a subscription Shadowrun service, run by the same guys and similar to the BattleCorps.com service for Classic BattleTech. It will have fiction and game material available on a subscription basis, and likely some other perks for subscribers as well. It will probably launch later this year.
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Aug 25 2005, 09:41 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
So to get access to Shadows of Latin America we must purchase a HoloStreets subscription?
P.S. Back to work. Daddy wants his shiny, new PDF. :P |
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Aug 26 2005, 09:46 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
SF goes to press soon, means we can expect it in our FLGS at october? I don't like the online-only version of SoLA. Refused to buy PDFs until today (prefer the "real" books) and don't wanna do so for SoLA (or buying an access to a website where the sb is put online). :| |
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Aug 26 2005, 11:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bangkok (sometimes Paris) Member No.: 332 |
But the crux of the problem here is simple: how many people would buy a setting book written before the Second Crash, now that SR4 is released and the official timeline has been forwarded 5 years in the future? My guess: not enough to cover the printing costs.
Furthermore, it unfortunately makes little sense, commercially speaking, to release a product made for a "defunct" line. In a sum, it would be awkward to release a SR3 book now that we're in the SR4 era, even if said book is still 95% useable with SR4 (and actually is even necessary to understand a few things referenced in SR4 corebook). |
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Aug 26 2005, 12:23 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Sad but true.
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Aug 26 2005, 01:06 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
the other advantage an online resource like that has, is that it can be updated (and i imagine it will be if its a subscription service, so that instead of saying in '75 that latin america looks like X in 2070, so i guess it's the same, the devs can continually update things, so that everyone's interested can see whre the drug carels are, what local wars are goigng on/are resolved etc etc. Personally, i kindof think that it's a good model for any sort of "locale" book.
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Aug 26 2005, 01:59 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Kinko's and similar businesses will print and bind pdf's. Kinko's charges by the side of the page, though, so it's often better to print somewhere else if you can do so for free and then Kinko's will spiral bind it for like six bucks. Really a very nice way to save some money by purchasing PDFs and still get physical books out of the deal, often for less than the full price of the original book. |
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Aug 26 2005, 03:37 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I never heard of Kinko here in germany, but here are probably similar shops. But why pay 20$ for a PDF, print it at home (which costs money for ink and paper) and get it bound for another 5$ when the price for the physical book is ~28$? Nothing i would do.
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Aug 26 2005, 03:40 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Text searchable PDF document allowing your printed book to be amoung the players while you -- if you have a laptop or accessible computer -- can be using the PDF. I've actually got hard copy, printed copies, and PDF copies of almost all the SR3 "core" books for that very reason. Course the obsolete now but that doesn't take away from their usefullness over the past few months.
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Aug 26 2005, 03:47 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Because then you can use Find to make up for crappy indexes. Plus assuming it costs mony for printing is only applicable some times. It is a employee perk for some people, though 350+ pages might be frowned upon at some places. |
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Aug 26 2005, 04:35 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I still don't see an advantage to buy a PDF, print it and get it out bound over buying a "real" book. For me it's not worth the few $/€ i save if i'd buy the PDF.
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Aug 26 2005, 04:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
The idea behind buying the PDF isn't to save a few bucks and print it yourself. If that's the only reason someone buys the PDF, they're either:
a) wasting money b) underutilizing an excellent reference resource c) a complete tool d) All of the Above |
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