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blakkie

Aug 26 2005, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder @ Aug 26 2005, 10:35 AM)

I still don't see an advantage to buy a PDF, print it and get it out bound over buying a "real" book. For me it's not worth the few $/€ i save if i'd buy the PDF.

It's not the savings, that is pretty much a push unless you have access to free [to you] printing. It's having the conveniences of the electronic form. Copy & pasting the text, text searching, and always the latest released version of the text.

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 04:49 PM Post #27
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Which is not given when you print the PDF. For me its a matter of preference: i can live without electronic updates (which are useful) and prefer to have a book in my hands instead of reading it at my computer screen.

blakkie

Aug 26 2005, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder @ Aug 26 2005, 10:49 AM)

Which is not given when you print the PDF.

What is not given? The benefits? What, you think you have to toss out the PDF when you print a paper copy???

P.S. Another nice thing is the lack of a guilty feeling for writing in the margins of the paper copy. ;)

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 04:55 PM Post #29
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Once you print the PDF you have the actual status with all updates/erratas to the given date. Any new one will not be on your printed version ;) That's what i meant. :)

blakkie

Aug 26 2005, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder @ Aug 26 2005, 10:55 AM)

Once you print the PDF you have the actual status with all updates/erratas to the given date. Any new one will not be on your printed version ;) That's what i meant. :)

Then you print i again. Or reprint the parts of it that changed if you went the binder route instead of dropping $5 to have it bound. Or you pen in the errata in the margins because you don't feel so bad about marking the crap out of the book.

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 06:19 PM Post #31
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	As i said: that's no real alternative to a real book, at least for me. Your suggestion are good and i would do so if i bought a PDF, no question. But i will never buy a PDF when a printed version is available.

Spookymonster View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 06:28 PM Post #32
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638	Given the "core mechanics are on page A, with exceptions on page B, oh and that bit of cyberware on page C overrides the optional rules in book D, as indicated by errata Z" nature of Shadowrun, I'll take an electronic search function any day of the year...

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 06:51 PM Post #33
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	When i can read a PDF while lying on my couch, then i'll use it too. :)

Ancient History View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 06:53 PM Post #34
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935	So download it to your pda, lazy-bones.

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 07:02 PM Post #35
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	How could i forgot that option? Oh s***, i don't own one. No, i don't wanna buy me one, i'm not that tech-freak. :D

Nerbert View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 07:06 PM Post #36
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 442 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 6,280	I didn't know PDAs could display pdfs in a useful, readable way.

Ancient History View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 07:07 PM Post #37
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935	The high-speed ones can. 'course, at that point you might as well buy a laptop and enjoy the nice warm glow on your belly.

Spookymonster View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 07:35 PM Post #38
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638	Mmmmm..... belly-glow......

hahnsoo View Member Profile	Aug 26 2005, 08:13 PM Post #39
Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014	Hell, my PSP can display converted PDFs...

Pugwhan

Aug 26 2005, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE (tisoz)

QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 25 2005, 03:03 PM)

We tried to get some copies done via a Print on Demand service for GenCon, and they told us they would have X number of copies for Wednesday, and in their world X = 0.

lol :wobble:

ONLINE only why is that? I HATE pdf files and having to use my computer to read stuff. And don't even go into "just print it out".

tisoz

Aug 26 2005, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE (Pugwhan)

QUOTE (tisoz @ Aug 25 2005, 02:19 PM)

QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 25 2005, 03:03 PM)

We tried to get some copies done via a Print on Demand service for GenCon, and they told us they would have X number of copies for Wednesday, and in their world X = 0.

lol :wobble:

ONLINE only why is that? I HATE pdf files and having to use my computer to read stuff. And don't even go into "just print it out".

What do either of the posts you quoted have to do with your comment?

Leave me out of it, please.

Cain

Aug 26 2005, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder)

I still don't see an advantage to buy a PDF, print it and get it out bound over buying a "real" book. For me it's not worth the few $/€ i save if i'd buy the PDF.

It's useful if your gaming group is on a budget. You can print multiple copies for much less than buying one for everyone.

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 27 2005, 08:00 PM Post #43
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Never thought of that possibility. I'm getting old.... That's a good idea, yep. :)

tisoz

Aug 28 2005, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder @ Aug 26 2005, 09:35 AM)

I still don't see an advantage to buy a PDF, print it and get it out bound over buying a "real" book. For me it's not worth the few $/€ i save if i'd buy the PDF.

It's useful if your gaming group is on a budget. You can print multiple copies for much less than buying one for everyone.

Isn't that also copyright infringement and illegal?

Aku View Member Profile	Aug 28 2005, 08:15 PM Post #45
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hahnsoo

Aug 28 2005, 08:21 PM

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Printing out copies of an eBook is different for every publisher, but here are DriveThruRPG.com's guidelines:

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What can I do with my eBooks?

First, the one thing you should not do is make a copy of the eBook for another person. Contrary to what many file-sharing sites would have us believe, doing that is a copyright violation and more importantly, it seriously erodes the ability of publishers to continue to offer the best gaming products possible. It's not like rpg publishers are minting millions as it is, so your support against copyright piracy is always appreciated.
Watermarked eBooks

You may print your eBooks, and copy as many selections to the clipboard as you wish.
DRM Protected eBooks

By default, we package our books with rights that allow you to print unlimited copies, copy 10 selections of text (or 10 pages if a selection spans multiple pages) to the clipboard every 10 days. You can have your eBooks on up to 6 computers at once, so long as each of those computers is activated with your DRM account.

Note that you can only have 6 computers activated at any one time; however, the following is from Adobe Support: "If you have reformatted your hard drive or you have a new computer, you can call Customer Service at 800-272-3623 to get your activation reset. Press 1 for sales." We have used this number to reset activations with no difficulty.

Under these guidelines, you can print out the PDF as many times as you'd like, but you aren't supposed to give away copies of it. You can have multiple copies for your gaming group as long as they return them to you at the end of the gaming session.

Pugwhan View Member Profile	Aug 29 2005, 05:50 PM Post #47
Target Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Boise, Salish Sidhe Member No.: 584	About the only advantage to PDF versions of the books is that within 24 hours of a books release its available as a free download somewhere out on the net. Although since I prefer supporting the manufacturer and my FLGS I end buying a copy anyway. But if Fanpro wants to go a pure PDF route on something I'll have no qualms downloading it for free somewhere.. :P

Spookymonster View Member Profile	Aug 29 2005, 06:32 PM Post #48
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638	Enjoy your civil suit, Pugwhan.

Grinder View Member Profile	Aug 29 2005, 09:35 PM Post #49
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Some thoughts better stay in your mind and not in a posting here, where several FanPro-people are reading. :S

Fortune View Member Profile	Aug 30 2005, 08:20 AM Post #50
Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486	Strangely, other than the Critters/GM Screen, I've seen no evidence of the 'official' PDFs anywhere on P2P networks. The only PDFs I know of are all home-made scans of regular books.

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