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The Jopp
post Sep 23 2003, 10:18 AM
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What would a Private Investigator and Bounty Hunter license cost? A character with a SIN should only have to fill in a few papers and pay a small license fee, but what would be a reasonable price? Since gun permits seems to be quite cheap shouldn't such things also be quite cheap?

I couldn’t find any information in the BBB, any suggestions?

What official and/or legal permissions does a Private Investigator and a Bounty Hunter have? What are they allowed to do within the UCAS?
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post Sep 23 2003, 12:56 PM
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If I remember right, a real-life PI license requires that you have something like 7 years of investigative experience. This usually means working under a PI or being a cop.

I think it varies from state to state but I doubt that there are any states that just give it to you for a fee. At the very least, they'll make you take a test.
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post Sep 23 2003, 01:02 PM
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Here's a link to the State of Oklahoma's requirements, consult your local state for variations and adjust to fit your game!

http://www.cleet.state.ok.us/Private_Security.htm
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post Sep 23 2003, 02:15 PM
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Thanks for the link, according to the application there are two costs depending on what type of investigator one wants to be.

Unarmed P.I: 5000,00 USD
Armed P.I: 10000,00 USD

In Shadowrun that would be split by 10 so a license for an unarmed PI would be 500¥ or 1000¥ for an armed PI. Gun permit would have to be purchased as normal.

The same price should apply to bounty hunters as well.

Since the character has been a CSI investigator for 8-12 years before retiring to become a PI I'd say that he has the experience for it.

Now,I think we need to remove ONE thing from that application. What would be defined as Moral Turpitude in 2057-2060? :P
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post Sep 23 2003, 03:34 PM
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Well here's the Washington State Department of Licensing page on their private investigators licensing program that I found. Just hit Requirements and Fees and it should tell you what you need to know about that. And here's their one for the Bail Bond Licensing Program.
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post Sep 23 2003, 03:43 PM
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In Shadowrun that would be split by 10
why?
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post Sep 23 2003, 06:41 PM
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In Shadowrun that would be split by 10
why?

Since the US dollar of today dont have the same value as the one in SR 2060. I believe that it shouldn't cost two months of middle lifestyle just to get a completely legal permit for a SIN owning citizen.
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post Sep 23 2003, 06:57 PM
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I believe that it shouldn't cost two months of middle lifestyle just to get a completely legal permit for a SIN owning citizen.

Err... 10 grand in today's money is significantly more than two months lifestyle for most people. Why would it be drasticly cheaper in the future?
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post Sep 23 2003, 08:51 PM
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...And you can get a nice car for 20.000,00Y. Are you telling me that a license too snoop around while carrying a sidearm should cost as much as half a car? I dunno, sounds a bit extreme.
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post Sep 23 2003, 09:28 PM
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If you follow the links provided earlier in the thread, the prices ARE extreme.
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post Sep 23 2003, 10:54 PM
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Ford America 20k nuyen, half that 10knuyen.. its on par with current prices if you go by the cost of a car
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post Sep 23 2003, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (The Jopp)
Since the US dollar of today dont have the same value as the one in SR 2060. I believe that it shouldn't cost two months of middle lifestyle just to get a completely legal permit for a SIN owning citizen.

The general rule has been that modern day US dollar prices convert straight over to nuyen on a 1:1 scale for things that costs aren't mentioned in any of the books. But yes the dollar is worth less than the nuyen, around 4:1 in the nuyens favour according to SoNA IIRC.
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post Sep 25 2003, 03:22 AM
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Thanks for the link, according to the application there are two costs depending on what type of investigator one wants to be.

Unarmed P.I: 5000,00 USD
Armed P.I: 10000,00 USD


Looking at the document, I think those values are how much the P.I. is insured for. The unarmed/armed P.I. license fees are $60 and $110, respectively.
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post Sep 25 2003, 12:44 PM
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According to the Washington state link provided, the application fee for an armed investigator is $100, and unarmed is $150. Renewal for both is $150.

If you're starting your own agency, then the application fee is $650 if the principal (that's you) is armed, and $550 if unarmed. The agency renewal fee is $450.

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post Sep 26 2003, 07:27 AM
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I'd say, just add up the prices of all the permits the character needs, and throw in the price of a fake SIN...
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