 AR Zones, Don't you love them?! |
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 Sep 5 2005, 04:05 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: 12-May 05 From: The nearest UV host near you... Member No.: 7,390  |
I'm currently reading "The Wireless World" chapter of SR4.
God do I love the Matrix 2.0 zones! Especially the Spam Zones! ^_^ I think that we will have a *LOT* of fun roleplaying those! For those who don't own SR4 yet, they introduced the concept of "zones" in the matrix. Currently, 3 types of zones are described: -Dead Zones where there is no matrix signals at all... -Static Zones where the access are intermittent or unreliable -Spam Zones where you are constantly bombarded by spams of all type I can easily imagine some kind of twisted corporate security where those zones can be provoked and exploited... ^_^ What do you all think about this? |
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Sep 5 2005, 04:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 775 Joined: 31-March 05 From: florida Member No.: 7,273 |
this is why i'm glad my adept is a low tech, he uses his telecom for all his matrix interaction, and a micro-transmitter (Rating 6) for communications otherwise he aint got squat techno wise
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Sep 5 2005, 04:15 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
spamtastic...
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Sep 5 2005, 04:24 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
The Wireless chapter has been the best reading in the book. But then again itīs the only one thatīs entirely new too.
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Sep 5 2005, 04:37 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hmm, i wonder how a sammie may react if, while he was using his smartlink to line up a shot, he got spamed by a dancing purple and green dino :P
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Sep 5 2005, 04:51 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
singing something about being a big haappy faamily?
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Sep 5 2005, 04:54 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Heh, imagine spam when you have most of your senses matrix linked... Now, you can feel, smell, and taste your spam too.
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Sep 5 2005, 05:11 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 21-June 04 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 6,429 |
The book also implied somewhere that spam could make you feel certian emotions if you have a DNI.
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Sep 5 2005, 05:16 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
lol, bring porn pop UPs to a WHOLE new level doesnt it?
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Sep 5 2005, 05:44 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
"To complete your orgasm, please deposit 25 :nuyen: "
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Sep 5 2005, 05:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 7-December 04 Member No.: 6,873 |
Fixed. |
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Sep 5 2005, 05:55 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The short answer is no, I don't love them. Dead zones make sense but aren't anything special. Static zones are crippled by a name that is only vaguely descriptive, while spam zones
make me angry from the sheer stupidity.
~J |
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Sep 5 2005, 06:01 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Actually, I think of them as a marketing opportunity waiting to happen:
Some corp suit thinks, hmm, we have extrateritoriality, so if we declare war on spammers, it's not felony murder, but a legitimate national secuirty exercise. And our black IC is so hard to test... Reduced cost product testing combinted with a kick ass word of mouth marketing campaign that also reduces the competition? What are we waiting for? |
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Sep 5 2005, 07:37 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
thanks. (though i'm sure i'm not the only one that came up with the idea.)
howso? |
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Sep 5 2005, 08:51 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Kage, you beat me to it. It almost sounds worth checking out, and then I find out more about the "new" matrix. |
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Sep 5 2005, 09:04 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i'm really confused. the zones are one of the things that make solid sense, to me. static zones... what else would you call them? and spam zones--have you ever been to a shopping district in a large city? i can't imagine places like the Strip in Pittsburgh, or Itaewon in Seoul, not flooding any active transciever in range with ads. what am i missing?
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Sep 5 2005, 09:13 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
u stoopid? ;) Ya, it works for me too. *shrug* I'm not sure exactly what other one word name would work for static zones. Intermittent Zone kinda says the zone is temporary. I guess you could expand it to two words Intermittent Recieption Zone, but that's getting kinda long. |
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Sep 5 2005, 10:04 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
calling it a splotchy zone? (man could that get awkard in conversations.. "man, me an my girl were out last weekend, and all of a sit i hit this splothcy zone and all drek breaks loose....")
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Sep 5 2005, 10:26 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? Find a security hole in the usual ad-broadcast protocols in a spam zone, firewall and immunize your computer all to hell, and then load up a frame that triggers every time your computer recieves spam. I dunno, have it broadcast back to the source, gain entry, and crash the spam broadcasting node.
Take security into your own hands. <G> |
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Sep 5 2005, 10:40 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I was thinking along those lines. There might be a couple of ways to set up Spam Zones, though. A hired hacker might have subverted nodes to be spam bots, and these would be the easiest to crash or even simply fix. But then again, some places - like Vegas - might have hardwired Spam Nodes, which could be all but impossible to soft hack. |
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Sep 5 2005, 10:57 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Hmmm... subvert a spam bot in one of the zones to send out an encrypted file within its advertising spiel. Only someone looking for that particular ad at that location and probably timing, with the correct utilities for decryption and voila. An interesting drop/pick up point. Nothing physical and can be hard to track since it's all part of the data flood hounding one's senses.
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Sep 5 2005, 11:21 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Think about the shopping ads from "Minority Report" - same sort of thing.
Amazingly annoying, but plausible - which is a great argument for a modified commlink. -Siege |
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Sep 6 2005, 02:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
Smart 'runners of all types will quickly get the idea of using two Comms. One an off the shelf idiot comm with the public ID/SIN, be it real or fake. A particularly adept individual will have software that emulates the typical communication between inconcealable or typical cyber (e.g. eyes, ears, ec). The second a secure high-end Comm running in stealth mode with encryption between all devices and an exclusively keyed subscriber list for firearms and cyber. |
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Sep 6 2005, 03:00 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 2-September 05 Member No.: 7,673 |
Especially with AR - as you walk past a shop window all of their specials and deals pop up! I can even imagine someone coming up with disposable "spam bombs" - eg small disposable wireless transmitters with an expendable battery and memory storage all disguised as a soda can. Or even worse could you imagine Coke or Pepsi would love to get some shadowrunners to secrete a few of these spam bombs done up in their competitors cans then when the unsuspecting purchaser opens the can it spams the local area with advertisements for the competitor. And if you have it as destructible memory (they can do it with BTLs in SR3 so they should be able to do it in SR4) then it would be hard to come back at them - have some real cola wars! |
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Sep 6 2005, 06:38 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 16-August 05 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 7,559 |
After doing my rading up on the issue in the book, that is the solution I came up with, too. Given the example #3 on page 210, Bitsy is "hiding in public" and gets in trouble for that. I dont understand why she isnt using a vanilla low lvl com with (fake) ID? It could be a bit problematic if you get checked out and they find two IDs on you though, much like RL now. One passport is fine, two passports with diffrent names and trouble is your next name. About SINs there is a part I really love: as used in earlier Editions, you need to answer some questions if the fake ID and verification systems get the same number of hits on the check. You can just have the relevant parts of your fake ID shown on your VR to make sure you got the right answers ... (yes, that was possible earlier, too, given headmemory and display link and all that, not too commong stuff. Now its way more common) |
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