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 Sep 7 2005, 01:24 PM
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The world outside is a dangerous, loud, messy place. But don't fear, the Corporation will protect you. |
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Sep 7 2005, 01:28 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Silly thought - what about drivers?
Do these spam zones automatically detect people in cars and don't spam them? -Siege |
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Sep 7 2005, 02:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
Given the existence of Gridlink for decades, most people don't drive even if they own cars. Plus, spamzones require transmitters which can be stolen so I doubt they are placed out in the open except in CorpZones where the drones will shoot you if you stop spending money. The "public" right of way (which I interpret to mean "roads shared by multiple corps") will likely have regulations against such spam simply because it is a risk to the corp. Personally I see the Ancients boosting a Spamtastic 6000, strapping it to the back of a bike and giving road rage a new meaning. Use a jammer weaker than the Spamtastic to kill Gridlink and bam, you've got comedy gold! |
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Sep 7 2005, 02:48 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 6,482 |
on the other hand, it means that you don't have to depend on the party mage to cast chaotic world anymore. just get the party decker, erm hacker, to do it instead.
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Sep 7 2005, 03:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
And don't forget the skinlink option of your commlink. The description explicitly states that skinlink communication cannot be intercepted or jammed. Now, an attacking hacker needs to - not fall for your decoy commlink in passive mode (can't make it too obvious) - find your real, hidden commlink (you are running in hidden mode, aren't you?) - hack your firewall and they still won't be able to mess with your gear (cyber or otherwise). Of course, they could still power down the commlink, or intercept/jam normal (wireless) communications. |
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Sep 7 2005, 03:52 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Well, if he gets through your implanted commlink/real commlink on datajack, he can screw with your ware... especially nasty if you got cybereyes/ears.
(GitS-SAC: Laughing Man, anyone?) So, Kids - always remember to get the best response available implanted: this limits your firewall... your databombs on implants are limited by grade. |
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Sep 7 2005, 04:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
I'd say that's a fair balance of risk vs. reward. Most runners are already pretty... sensitive, shall we say?... to anyone invading their personal space. If you're able to get that close without losing any limbs, more power to ya. Here's how I figure the three modes break down, using modern wireless router terms: Active mode - wireless radio is on; broadcast SSID is on; firewall is off Passive mode - wireless radio is on; broadcast SSID is off; firewall is on Hidden mode - wireless radio is off; broadcast SSID is off; firewall is on, router will still process hardwired connections (cyberware via DNI link, skinlink) |
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Sep 7 2005, 04:26 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Well... he just has to be in wireless range of your and his commlink. Of course, you can always tune down your signal rating...
Not quite... radio is always on in modes - switching of would be no mode. Only hidden doesn't broadcast SSID, and active only means the personal firewall allows incoming per default. |
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Sep 7 2005, 04:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
I know I'd like my hidden Comm to at least be aware of nearby communication or the lack thereof. I think hidden turns the transceiver to a "receive" mode only and disables broadcasting as long as skinlink is possible between the configured devices. If you positively must have an RF link it steps the Signal down to the lowest level that still maintains a connection, complaining the whole time. You should be able to do the intercept/decrypt trick when in Hidden mode though you won't be able to inject any commands without going active. |
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Sep 7 2005, 04:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
Yeah, my bad... since hidden is still capable of communicating with other nodes, I guess the radio isn't really turned off. My revised list then:
Active - radio=ON, SSID=ON, firewall=OFF Passive - radio=ON, SSID=ON, firewall=ON Hidden - radio=ON, SSID=OFF, firewall=ON Offline - radio=OFF, SSID=OFF, firewall=ON (skinlink, DNI connection still works) But that just prompts the question; according to the book, is there an Offline mode? Can you turn off the radio without turning the whole commlink off? |
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Sep 7 2005, 04:50 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Sure - you can switch off wireless on any device... with more or less impact on its functionality, though.
Actually, this is even recommendend when B&E. ;) |
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Sep 7 2005, 06:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 10-February 04 Member No.: 6,068 |
From what I am hearing, there are two types of wireless going on here. (I don't have the book yet, so I am speculating)
1) PAN - Very short range, highly securable network for Matched Devices that know specifically about each other. Roughly equivalent to Bluetooth. I could imagine designing this protocol such that the devices could be put into a learning mode where they figure out each other's encryption codes and so they can make a very secure hard to spoof or penetrate local net. You could have a "Look Around" mode in which you could have a list of potential connections around you and choose the ones you want to connect into your PersonalNet. This would let you do things like control lights in a house or a soda machine. 2) The other part with the AR zones sounds more like a wireless Matrix connection, roughly equivalent to WiMAX, or 3G. I don't see why you would ever turn off your Firewall on this. Hacking this sounds more or less like being able to find a person's cell phone number while they are walking by and call them, or text message them. I'm sure it is possible to send text message spam, but they do that from the Internet at large and it gets sent to you. |
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Sep 7 2005, 07:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
I think it's more like high-powered WiFi, with unsecured routers/relays planted roughly every 3-10 meters: inside stores, on lamp posts, attached to the umbrella of a rolling noodle cart, etc. The higher your commlink's signal, the further off-grid you can go before getting disconnected. |
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Sep 7 2005, 07:33 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i doubt that any mode turns your firewall all the way off, even if you're using the modern definition of "firewall" rather than SR4's expanded one. after all, if you want to hack a commlink that's in active mode, you still have to actually hack it, and your hacking attempts are still opposed by the target's firewall. a better analogy would be settings for most IM programs. there's an option in most of them that lets you automatically accept or decline messages from people who aren't on your list. if you're going clubbing, you turn your PAN to active mode, which means that a) others can read your profile and see what you're into, and b) they can send you a message if they're interested and think they have a shot. if you're just out shopping and you're in a hurry, you set your PAN to passive. that way, you can still get calls from friends and family, but the creepy guy on the bus who thinks you have the most beautiful ankles can't stalk you electronically. hidden mode is probably unused by most people--they probably tell you to put your PAN in hidden mode if you're out late at night by yourself, to make it extra-hard for smart thugs to hack you. |
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Sep 7 2005, 10:22 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 6,482 |
Having read further, you're probably right. Active mode = "Send out a big Fat "I'm HERE" signal all the time, and accept connections from anyone" Passive mode = "Send out the bare minimum signal required, Handshake if needed, and only accept connections from people on my buddy list" hidden mode = Wireless send : off, Wireless receive : only from pre-determined devices (ie, mp3 player, Cyberware, headset, Cit-E-Map module) Wireless disabled: effectivly shut down. Local router functions only, and then only by either hardlink, or possibly skin link. off: Active mode is like telling the world "i'm here" all the time. Passive mode is like saying you're off line, even though you're actually not. hidden mode will get you in trouble in certain area's .. as apparently ou no longer have the right to anonymity. Off, and probably Wireless disabled, will either land you in a heap of trouble, or have every "joe's electrical repair depot" drone following you, offering up joe's amazing Comlink repair service. Dont worry folks. that's not paranoia your feeling. they really are out to get you. <edit.> howcome cyberware STILL isnt in the spell checker? </edit> |
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