Duel Natured Ghouls?, vamps and ghouls oh my Options

[snowRaven]

Yeah...I never recall seeing anything about HMHVV being too small to be noticed - if it was, how would they have been able to identify and isolate all the various strains?

HMHVV = Vampire, Banshee, Wendigo, Dzoo-no-Qua, Goblin

HMHVV, Jarka-Criscione strain = Loup-Garou, Bandersnatch, Fomorian(non-vampiric)

HMHVV, Brucker-Langer strain = Nosferatu

HMHVV, Krieger stain = Ghoul(non-vampiric)

Then there are several variants and similar, that may or may not be different strains:

Sukuyan = Carribean vampire variant (needs salt as well as essence)

Abat, Boroka and Mangalok = Phillipine vampire variants that eat internal organs, and are vulnerable to salt.

Busaw = ghoul variant from the phillipines, allergic to citric acid.

Sasabonsam = ghoul variant from africa, with higher movement multiplier, run on four legs.

Chupacabras = tissue show a pattern similar to HMHVV, but they are not carriers.


And the official ruling on Ghouls and metahuman flesh can be found in the SR3 Shadowrun Companion, pg.32:

"They must consume approximately 1 percent of their body weight in metahuman flesh per week in order to maintain their health and get needed nutrition, but the bulk of a ghoul's diet may be any other kind of raw flesh. Ghouls find cooked meat indigestible; it can make them ill, just as raw meat does many metahumans."

And further down on the same page:

"Scientists have not yet managed to isolate the exact chemicals present in metahuman flesh that ghouls need to survive; a popular theory maintains that the ghouls' need for metahuman flesh has something to do with its metaphysical aura."

EDIT: Oh, and Ghouls are not the only dual-natured vampiric being: Bandersnatches are as well, and back in SR1 and SR2 so were Dzoo-no-Qua (though that seems to have disappeared in SR3 - strange...)

[Nikoli]

And Dzoo-no-Qua are the only HMHVV infected trolls. You can't make a troll ghoul, those are human only, iirc.

[FrankTrollman]

[Halabis]

Omg, I just agreed with Frank. /dies

[snowRaven]

[Nikoli]

Ah, I always ran my games under the impression that the specific listings were the only types for the meta's and any other strain killed the host in a statisfyingly gruesome manner

[snowRaven]

[NightmareX]

[Sabosect]

I don't try. I shoot it in the head and take a blood sample before it bleeds out.

Also, I note that HMHVV-2 is missing from the list of HMHVVs. 2 is mentioned in the SR3 Creatures book. I don't have my printed copy on hand and cannot remember which creatures are infected with 2.

Now, for real fun, try pointing out where it says that people can play vampires in SR3. Pay special attention to the text of powers.

[NightmareX]

[snowRaven]