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 Sep 16 2005, 11:05 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042  |
Is in theaters now...it is a fixer movie for the ages. :D
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Sep 17 2005, 01:48 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I was looking forward to this, but as a movie, Entertainment Weekly panned it saying it is almost a documentary on sleezy merchants but never really gets your attention.
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Sep 17 2005, 01:51 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 10-September 05 Member No.: 7,725 |
Unless, of course, documentaries on sleazy merchants would get your attention. |
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Sep 17 2005, 01:57 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I'm in finance, I've been in collection. I excell at sleaze. I want entertainment.
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Sep 17 2005, 02:15 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I rarely give much credence to what Entertainment Weekly have to say about a movie.
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Sep 17 2005, 03:13 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I actually like EW. The reviewers are not always spot on, but it, as a publication, seems to remember that when it all boils down this stuff is ENTERTAINMENT and in the grand scheme of things not that important. A lot of htese papers seem to think this is hte be all and end all of existance.
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Sep 17 2005, 05:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Well, this reviewer says that if you like Shadowrun, you'll probably like LORD OF WAR.
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Sep 17 2005, 07:07 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Yes, god forbid anyone looks to film or television for art. |
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Sep 17 2005, 08:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm not sure I want to.
Of late, Hollyweird (as before, the misspelling on my part is quite intentional) has the nasty habit of demonizing firearms--or anything weapons-related, at least as regards anything not in a historical setting--unless doing otherwise suits their purposes. Example: The last two films (to date) in the Lethal Weapon film series. I haven't seen LW4, and I have no plans to see it or any further films in the series, but the overriding message in LW3 was, "Firearms are evil personified and, except for police and military use, their only purpose is to kill people and poor defenseless animals." Following the release of LW3, one pro-firearms publication referred to its two stars as "Mel 'I-hate-guns-except-when-they-make-me-money' Gibson" and "Danny 'Which-liberal-cause-am-I-supporting-this-week' Glover." Not to mention that the parent company of Warner Brothers films is Time, Incorporated, a/k/a Time-Warner, one of the most liberal publishing companies on the planet. They, among others, contribute heavily to the National Organization to Ban Handguns, and the Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence (formerly Handgun Control, Incorporated), two of the most anti-firearms organizations in America. Regardless of how Cage plays his part, I can practically guarantee that the script intentionally portrays him as totally unscrupulous and only interested in enriching himself at the expense of others. Just my :nuyen: 0.02. End rant. :) I now return you to your regularly-scheduled Dumpshock Forums. --Foreigner This post has been edited by Foreigner: Sep 17 2005, 09:11 PM |
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Sep 17 2005, 09:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
Yeah, its horrible how Hollywood keeps demonizing illegal arms dealers.
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Sep 17 2005, 10:02 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
In this edited fashion, this statement is true. That doesn't make them "good" or "evil", but refusing to recognize that fact is intellectually dishonest. That said, this definitely looks like a film worth seeing… ~J |
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Sep 17 2005, 10:09 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The gun is good. The penis is evil.
The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill! We must never forget, killing is good. |
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Sep 17 2005, 10:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
I have to disagree with this statement. I personally use my firearms for recreation and sport, not killing (with the exception of hunting to provide food for my family). I will use them to kill, if necessary, but that is not their only purpose.
Just curious, but why is it illegal to deal arms? Why should any arms, short of weapons of mass destruction, be restricted from private ownership? |
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Sep 17 2005, 11:00 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
So you're okay if your neighbor has an rpg that he has lying around?
Why is it illegal to deal arms? Remember, the US is one of the largest suppliers of arms for the world. From an capitalist-economic standpoint, it's the best interest of the US to control whatever it can in arm sales/deals. They make more by having their choice corporations making the deals since they're the ones making the large political donations and such. Plus, they do want to control what technologies and arms go where, because you don't want your good stuff to be used on your own troops later on. |
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Sep 17 2005, 11:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
Yes, I am perfectly fine with that. In fact, I would like a few of my own. Remember, an armed society is a polite society... ;) This post has been edited by Shrapnel: Sep 17 2005, 11:38 PM |
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Sep 18 2005, 12:56 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
This thread is as likely to erupt in a huge fight about how nationstates should be governed as a poverty-stricken, ethnically and/or religiously diverse Middle Eastern population with shitloads of surplus military hardware. Besides, it's WAY off-topic.
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Sep 18 2005, 01:26 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
He isn't arguing that it's illegal to deal arms; this is fact, and not up for argument. Though I suspect you meant to question his dislike for illegal arms dealing and not its illegality. And yes, it's getting off topic already. PBTHHHHT you should know better; Austere, you should really know better. |
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Sep 18 2005, 02:32 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Ah, alarmist liberal conspiracy-R-us. Why can't Hollywood simply be just a vapid enterprise of money-grubbers, out to make money out of controversy? Why does it have to be an agenda-personified? I'll probably not see this film... however, the title reminds me of a horrible video game called "Lord of Gun" (Link here). We still use it as a substitute curseword in polite company among my group of friends. |
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Sep 18 2005, 06:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
All free men own guns.
Cage's character in the film is a black marketeer, which means the deals he makes are illegal. It wouldn't be much of a movie if things didn't spiral out of control, but the movie was remarkably objective overall on the ethics of dealing arms. It does seem to say that dealing with genocidal warlords is a bad idea. Anyway, it's very Shadowrun. |
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Sep 18 2005, 06:31 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
All free men own other men. All free men own monkeys. We can spout platitudes all day long, it doesn't make them true. I realize that I (unwisely) helped start the off-topic drag, but can we please kill it here? ~J |
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Sep 18 2005, 01:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
Old progunners' saying:
A man who owns a gun is a citizen. A man who doesn't is a subject. Another one, suited mostly for citizens and residents of the United States--although I suppose it could apply to other former British colonies as well-- is: If it weren't for people with guns, you'd still be a British subject. Think about it..... And yes, I am a card-carrying member of the National Rifle Association of America, and I'm proud to say it. I'm currently a Lifetime Benefactor member, and joined as a Junior Lifetime Member in February, 1978, three months before my fourteenth birthday. End rant. :) <Climbs down off of soapbox.> :grinbig: --Foreigner |
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Sep 18 2005, 02:23 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Well, I tried to report this thread, but I got a Database Error, twice.
Let's just stop it, okay? We don't need this kind of shit here. We all know there's not going to be any sort of agreement about this crap, so all these messages basically constitute flamebaiting anyway (my own earlier message included). |
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Sep 18 2005, 02:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
Sorry, A.E.
I got carried away. Unfortunately, I'm very passionate about my beliefs. It was not my intention to make a political statement, or to insult anyone. I was merely expressing my opinion, as well as addressing the hypocrisy that seems to abound in the American film industry nowadays. --Foreigner |
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Sep 18 2005, 03:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Austere Emancipator: Report the thread? Why? It's a political discussion, on a subject very close to Shadowrun. SR certainly raises the ethical issue of gun ownership and use, whether by individuals or nation states.
If this thread was about the ethics of genetic engineering, would you want to report it? |
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Sep 18 2005, 03:18 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Nonononono, double plus ungood. One of the great debates on the Internet, do not bring up unless looking to overwork the moderators and piss everyone off.
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