TeOdio
Dec 9 2005, 02:29 AM
Wow, I had to think long and hard about this one. I can't think of many "characters" that I actually like in Shadowrun (at least enough to incorporate them into my game). I like the Lone Gunman from back in the day before the X-Files ripped him off. I've never had a problem with Lofwyr, mainly cause he's so erratic and alien he can do anything and it would make perfect sense to him. Plus he stomped his bro Alamaise, and that is one old ass Great Dragon. I always kind of dug Damian Knight as someone that schemes "almost" as well as a Great Dragon to keep himself at the top of his little empire. I can list my most hated characters though.
Mr Darke AKA Senor Oscuro. The Dragon Heart trilogy ruined him.
Any of the twink Immortal Elves (Like Harlequin) Pink Floyd?, after living for over 6000 years you run around with t shirts from a band that is over sixty friggin years old! Why not a Salieri tatoo as well!
And a special loathing for the ultimate in twink crap characters, Ryan Mercury. I'd rather be sodomized by Talon than have to ever read about Ryan Mercury banging Nadja Daviar again.
TheHappyAnarchist
Dec 9 2005, 02:34 AM
QUOTE (TeOdio) |
And a special loathing for the ultimate in twink crap characters, Ryan Mercury. I'd rather be sodomized by Talon than have to ever read about Ryan Mercury banging Nadja Daviar again. |
I think that deserves mention. Not sure what kind, but I laughed.
emo samurai
Dec 9 2005, 03:02 AM
Why would Novatech need to Thor shot a corporate shark? Seriously.
emo samurai
Dec 9 2005, 03:04 AM
Lofwyr hasn't been mentioned. I guess he isn't a character so much as a nexus of political and financial power. Same with pretty much every other authority figure, which makes sense. And Nadja Daviar isn't hot anymore; she's 56 years old, and for elves, that's around 40. Isn't it? Or do they live REALLY long?
bclements
Dec 9 2005, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (emo samurai) |
Why would Novatech need to Thor shot a corporate shark? Seriously. |
They couldn't get to him with a strike team fast enough.
Mr.Platinum
Dec 9 2005, 03:11 AM
Henzo Shotozumi.
Tanka
Dec 9 2005, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (Lindt @ Dec 7 2005, 04:40 PM) |
Heheh. Art go boom. Must get.. well what book IS it in? |
System Failure.
QUOTE (Grimtooth) |
BTW did Novatech really Thor shot Art Dunkwalther??? |
Yup.
Mr.Platinum
Dec 9 2005, 03:16 AM
QUOTE (tanka) |
QUOTE (Lindt @ Dec 7 2005, 04:40 PM) | Heheh. Art go boom. Must get.. well what book IS it in? |
System Failure.
QUOTE (Grimtooth) | BTW did Novatech really Thor shot Art Dunkwalther??? |
Yup.
|
What the Hell, I guess I better read my copy then, some messed up dreck is going down in that book.
Tanka
Dec 9 2005, 03:21 AM
Very, very good book. On par with, if not better than, Cybertech. Nothing beats UB or Bug City, however.
None of the other SR3 sourcebooks gripped me as much as SF did. In fact, only a few of the SR2 books did. Nothing recent, unfortunately.
And then they moved immediately on to 4th Ed. Kind of killed the flow they had for the few moments they had it. Sigh.
DeadNeon
Dec 9 2005, 04:06 AM
So many to choose from..
Of all of them, i'd have to say Dirk Montgomery. Noirish, gritty detectives -when well done- are a favorite character type of mine.
Honorable Mentions:
Art Dankwalther: Yeah, i liked him. Or rather i liked the idea behind the character.
Alfredo Garcia: In a sourcebook (cant remember the name, or if it was 1st or second edition) there was a musical loving, dancing sasquath who tended bar in some English pub.
Argent and Matador: Consumate professionals. Plain and simple.
Perianwyr: One music lover to another.
fourstring_samurai
Dec 9 2005, 04:22 AM
dirk montgomery. I loved his stories and his attitude. any news about him after house of the sun? i still can't believe that Nigel Findley died.
Wolfgang Keis. Who cares if he doesn't follow in game rules? one bad motherfragger, if you ask me.
Dodger, Cap Chaos, Fast Jack, Jack the Ripper, Remy. love 'em all. whatever happened to Jack the Ripper? i know that remy is still floating around somewheres.
and what about zapper weisman?
Dunklezahn. I always had a soft spot for him.
Ghost-who-walks-inside.
Argent.
Hatchetman. Cybertechnology brought a whole new perspective to being a street sam for me.
Sam Verner. Did he get his magic back after the secrets of power trilogy?
and so many more...
SL James
Dec 9 2005, 06:44 AM
Alfie was in Prime Runners.
System Failure had a lot of just completely f-ed up stuff in it.
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone likes Sutherland.
Critias
Dec 9 2005, 07:45 AM
QUOTE (SL James @ Dec 9 2005, 01:44 AM) |
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone likes Sutherland. |
I dunno, I thought he was pretty cool as Bauer in 24. His dad was a pretty good president, too, I thought, even though I haven't seen West Wing in probably five years or so. Granted, Young Guns and Young Guns 2 weren't exactly high cinema, and The Cowboy Way was more funny than anything...else...but...
Hey, wait. What are we talking about again?
Anythingforenoughnuyen
Dec 9 2005, 10:21 AM
Picking up on the thoughts of SL James and TeOdio, Damian Knight does deserve special mention as far as Shadowrun NPC's go. He is, in a way, sort of like the old Detective archetype writ large. He has no reality bending magic powers, no cyberware to boost his physical abilities to super(meta)human levels, and he is not a god in the martix. Instead he relies on his intelligence, skills, resources, and contacts (although, in those catagories he is super(meta)human). He does not even own his corporation outright, yet he competes against, and triumphs over, those who use their magic and cybernetics to get there way (as opposed to, say, Azetech where magic and dirty tricks are the rule for success; or Mitsuhama, where stories abound about the nasty surprises their CEO "hands" out to those who displease him with his monster cyber-claw).
And, for those of us with a less than favorable opnion of Ryan "Twink-Silver" Mercury, let us not forget (or, even better, take a minute to remember fondly) that when Twink-Silver ran up against Damian Knight, it was not Knight that ended up naked and cuffed on a concrete floor with a pair of Troll Company men pointing assult rifles at his back.
Which, is not to say, of course, that Damian Knight is not a total prick, just that he is a very cool total prick, in the way only a fictional character can be.
Sicarius
Dec 9 2005, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (Anythingforenoughnuyen) |
Which, is not to say, of course, that Damian Knight is not a total prick, just that he is a very cool total prick, in the way only a fictional character can be. |
Fictional Characters, or Dumpshock regulars.
Critias
Dec 9 2005, 11:33 AM
There are very cool Dumpshock regulars?
MaxHunter
Dec 9 2005, 12:39 PM
Sure there are...
Back to topic:
Coolest:
Damien "Gavilan" Knight
Argent
Matador
Hated
Ryan Mercury
Ryan Mercury
Ryan Mercury
MaxHunter
Dec 9 2005, 12:42 PM
And I also hated Sam Verner
Jrayjoker
Dec 9 2005, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (Critias) |
There are very cool Dumpshock regulars? |
Just you.
winterhawk11
Dec 9 2005, 03:26 PM
QUOTE (SL James) |
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone likes Sutherland. |
I can't speak for anybody else, but I can tell you why I like him. I like powerful characters with style, especially smart sarcastic ones. Especially smart sarcastic British ones. I like characters that are very good at what they do, but not good at everything. I like characters with flaws. Sutherland fits all those criteria, plus he's an uberdecker, rather high on himself, dresses well, loves his comforts--but is still a bit of an insufferable twit on occasion and ended up with some bad stuff happening to him that caused him some pretty severe limitations.
I don't think that just because a character is powerful that necessarily has to make him a twink or a munchkin. Ryan Mercury is both, and I can't stand him.
Does anybody like ol' Ryan? C'mon--somebody speak up if you do!
toturi
Dec 9 2005, 03:36 PM
I like Ryan. Except his taste in nipples.
SL James
Dec 9 2005, 05:43 PM
Hm. I'll stick with my criteria of, "would the game universe be less without them."
kevyn668
Dec 13 2005, 02:52 AM
In no order:
Chuck-Chuck Razool (Can't beat a street name like that)
Cap the Knife, aka Casper (ditto)
Wolfgang Kies (for the reasons listed)
Jack Skater (not Slater as previously mentioned)
Kid Stealth (he's an icon)
Derek Montgomery (gumshoe much?)
Bloodwing aka Blackwing (THE elven hitman. Period.)
The Big D (why not?)
Archangel (Ice Queen in love...)
Harlequin (c'mon, he's cool)
Chance (first published Insect Shaman)
Alice Crenshaw (women can be cold killers too. even in 1989)
Foreigner
Dec 13 2005, 01:54 PM
Critias:
With all due respect, the role of "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" in
The West Wing is played by Martin Sheen, not Donald Sutherland.
I think that you *might* have the families mixed up.

Everyone else: Please excuse me for this brief off-topic excursion.
I now return you to your regularly-scheduled Dumpshock Forums.
--Foreigner
mintcar
Dec 13 2005, 04:53 PM
I happen to like Harlequin as I imagined him after reading the first of his adventures, and some of his shadowtalk. That isn´t to say I like all accounts of him in the novels, or any of them actually. That he´s a bit out of fashion all the time is a good idea by his creators. It gives the GM a chance to make him seem wise when just speaking about bands of the -90´s or something, and it´s natural that someone with a long lifespan would not follow the sota fashion even if it´s one of the more "hip" old ones around.
Derek Montgomery is the best of the lead character´s in all of the SR novels.
and maybe the coolest one:
Alice. Living in her noir, celluloid city that´s a world of it´s own in the matrix, chain smoking virtual cigarettes, being a mysterious ghost in the machine and part of the most intruiging meta-plot—makes her no1.
That´s an honest of-the-top-of-my-head list of the ones that I remember thinking, "wow, that´s cool" when reading about.
SL James
Dec 13 2005, 10:17 PM
QUOTE (Foreigner) |
Critias:
With all due respect, the role of "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" in The West Wing is played by Martin Sheen, not Donald Sutherland.
I think that you *might* have the families mixed up. |
But his role as Speaker of the House is pretty good. At least, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association thinks so.
Dog
Dec 16 2005, 12:02 AM
QUOTE (Birdy) |
5) The elven chick on the cover of "Survival of the fittest"
|
Who has been observed by a few folks as identical in appearance to my wife. Okay... done bragging.
RunnerPaul
Dec 16 2005, 12:30 AM
From the old SNES game: Kitsune
From an adventure: The Cat Troll from Missing Blood.
From a fiction section of a sourcebook: Lucifer
Kremlin KOA
Jan 26 2006, 09:03 PM
QUOTE (winterhawk11 @ Dec 9 2005, 03:54 AM) |
[ Spoiler ] Continuing the usage of spoiler tags in case someone doesn't know yet... All that was ruined, completely and totally, by "The Burning Time." In that book pedophilia is called true love (Talon's old mentor and then early-teen young Talon's relationship), ally spirits are turned loose (and turned into found-to-be-sexually-attractive-by-their-summoner-forms) and come back thanks to true love, and true love inspires a female Shadowrunner team-mate of his to very seriously look into getting a sex change surgery so that gay Talon will love her like she loves him (yes, really). |
[ Spoiler ]
I don't know what's sadder, that the sex change plot was in a novel or that I know someone IRL who is saving up for just such an operation
winterhawk11
Jan 26 2006, 09:55 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not responsible for the quote attributed to me above, though I do agree with most of it.
QUOTE (Kremlin KOA) |
[ Spoiler ] I don't know what's sadder, that the sex change plot was in a novel or that I know someone IRL who is saving up for just such an operation
|
[ Spoiler ]
You know someone who's saving up for a sex change, or saving up for a sex change because he/she is in love with someone who's gay? There's a huge difference. The first one I fully understand and support. The second one...that's a little weirder. Whatever makes people happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody, but it seems a bit odd to me--more like obsession than love.
Robotech Master
Jan 26 2006, 10:34 PM
I'm going with either Hatchetman or Damian Knight. I'm leaning towards Hatchetman due to his rather nice apperances in the sourcebooks, especialy Real Life and Cybertech.
Grinder
Jan 26 2006, 10:53 PM
What's up with Sally Tsung, btw?
Kremlin KOA
Jan 27 2006, 12:57 AM
QUOTE (winterhawk11) |
[ Spoiler ] You know someone who's saving up for a sex change, or saving up for a sex change because he/she is in love with someone who's gay? There's a huge difference. The first one I fully understand and support. The second one...that's a little weirder. Whatever makes people happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody, but it seems a bit odd to me--more like obsession than love. |
[ Spoiler ]
The latter, she is a very depressed person
Kagetenshi
Jan 27 2006, 01:06 AM
Skwaaark.
~J
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