HeySparky
Apr 4 2006, 10:46 PM
Oh, and casting team... good luck convincing Felix that he can even do this 'magic' stuff.
Mister Juan
Apr 4 2006, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Rokur) |
I know this is a bit off topic. But I was wondering, if we can keep this story so alive and kicking (and there seems to be non-stop drama or action which is awesome.) Can we... i dunno... sell it? It's a freaking great story! and we're only on day 1! The writing seems decent, people are staying IC which is creating better dialogue then most other books/comics/tv/movies, and it's got blood, violence, special effects, hot girls on racing bikes, magic, drama, and even some comedy here and there! (Though, noone's the funny guy in the group yet... , maybe it's Neo... ) |
Well, unless you want to split royalties with like... 16 peoples

That and the fact that a lot of things we use/say is probably copyrighted by Fanpro/Wizkid.
But I agree, it would be cool as hell!
A fun thing I've come across, and that I've done with a bunch of games (internet or RL) is to take the "logs" and translate them into screenplay format. Takes a lot of time and work, but it really fun to have around
MK Ultra
Apr 4 2006, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (Vegas) |
*claps her hands together* Who is next?!? |
Please DO NOT port Tao Fighter from the old wiki to the new one
Mister Juan
Apr 4 2006, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (ES_Sparky) |
Oh, and casting team... good luck convincing Felix that he can even do this 'magic' stuff. |
Well, to him, he doesn't "do magic"... which means he uses a lot of different terms. Like he doesn't create ward, he puts up "mind shields". He doesn't conjure spirits, he "expresses his subconcious".
Wounded Ronin
Apr 4 2006, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (Vegas) |
ToyRobot's been ported over to the new Wiki to the best of my abilities. Wounded Ronin, you'll have to add anything I didn't know or you want to expand on |
Thanks!
MK Ultra
Apr 4 2006, 11:06 PM
@ Mister Juan
Well, first, Tao is a Wujen, not a Shamane.
Second the spirits for diferent traditions use the same rules now, but they are still considered diferent kinds of spirits, so there is probably no way for us, to summon communally.
Third, Tao can´t do any ritual stuff, as he lacks the skills, don´t know, what´s used for wards though.
Ok Wards don´t need any skill, thats good, but TF´s dice pool for creating Wards will only be 3 (-2 for Damage), this is bad, however, each hit makes it good for 1 week, right? How long takes the ritual, I didn´t find a time.
CODE |
Maximum Force (physical drain): 4 Maximum Safe Force: 2
Pools not counting Damage & Hometurf mods, as well as negative Mentorspirit mods (not sattled on this yet :() Counterspelling Pool: 0 dices Astral Combat Pool: 4 dices Spellcasting Pool: 6 (8 for Manipulation) dices Conjuring Pool: 5 (9 for Spirits of Men) dices Drain Resistance: 6 dices
Total of Bounds Spirits he can have: 3 Total of Watchers he can have: 3
Max area he can ward: 100 cubic meters
Astral Attributes Agility (Logic): 5 Body (Willpower): 1 Reaction (Intuition): 5 Strenght (Charisma): 3 Astral Damage: 2S Weapon Focus I: Reach +2, 4P IP: 3 Initiative: 10 Maximum time in astral form: 2 hours |
MK Ultra
Apr 4 2006, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (Mister Juan) |
Well, to him, he doesn't "do magic"... which means he uses a lot of different terms. Like he doesn't create ward, he puts up "mind shields". He doesn't conjure spirits, he "expresses his subconcious". |
Does that mean, we need to ware tinfoil hats, to profit from his counterspelling
Rokur
Apr 4 2006, 11:11 PM
QUOTE (MK Ultra) |
How long takes the ritual, I didn´t find a time. |
Force x Hours
Mister Juan
Apr 4 2006, 11:47 PM
So, the only thing we can do as a team is probably warding. I don't think it states anywhere in the rules wether or not you can teamwork conjuring and binding... but I think that on a logical stand point, since all three characters have very different traditions / approach to their powers, we should assume they can't work together for something like that.
I think that all three characters should be present if anyone attemps to do any binding... just in case the spirit goes beserk, we'll need to banish it.
I believe we should all get as many watchers as possible.
As for actual spirits, I guess thats up to each of us. I know Raven already has the summoning material to bind a bunch of spirits. Felix, on the other hand, doesn't. Being 500

per Force point, an average spirit (easy enough to bound, but still not too weak) would probably cost around 1500 to 2000 (force 3 or 4). But I really think we should get bound spirits, because they can accept orders from other PCs, and can sustain spells, which is VERY useful in a defensive situation. So, the way I see it, Bound spirits should be oriented and chosen in regards to support and defensive roles, while unbound should be gear toward combat.
We should also try to work out a astral patrolling scheduel, so that at least one mage is always ready to jump into the astral to slow down / repel any intruders.
Mister Juan
Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM
Also, to my knowledge, mundane objects cannot be astrally tracked. So, I think we should avoid warding the room where the real box is hidden. It would simply look too suspicous.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 12:06 AM
With the search power a spirit can find any person, place or object, the summoner can provide a mental image of!
And SR3 rules for ritual casting would allso allow, to find any item, of which the sorcerer posesses some part (i.e. the removed iron sights of the gun).
Both would take much longer when the target is hidden behind a ward.
Jaid
Apr 5 2006, 12:28 AM
there is no official rules for "ritual summoning" to my knowledge.
anyways, i'm pretty sure electrode has stealth... i could potentially get closer than bronzewyrm could...
although, i have to ask: how in hang did you get around without having one of the most basic programs ever?
anyhow, you'd probably have to ask him to go there... he's not very big on going into an area patrolled by the star. if someone can convince him they're not likely to have a hacker there, he might consider going though (like, you know... someone with a knowledge skill relating to lone star procedures, for example... *coughfelixcough* )
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 12:29 AM
QUOTE (from wiki nsFAQ) |
Rokur: Does it cost double Karma to raise magic attribute? (unsure if this was answered, but it feels like fishing for TG remarks when searching the forums) |
He ruled that it won´t cost double to increase with karma, only with bp at chargen.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 12:33 AM
CODE |
Logic (5) + Police Procedures (1) + Damage (-2) = 4 dice [5] 4 4 2 Hits:1 |
No idea, if that´s enough to know.
Mister Juan
Apr 5 2006, 12:40 AM
QUOTE (MK Ultra) |
With the search power a spirit can find any person, place or object, the summoner can provide a mental image of!
|
Crap... I completely forgotten about the Search power. So yea, we'll have to ward where ever we stash it.
QUOTE |
And SR3 rules for ritual casting would allso allow, to find any item, of which the sorcerer posesses some part (i.e. the removed iron sights of the gun). |
As for that, I believe it doesn't hold in SR4 anymore...
If you want to cast a spell on someone, at a distance, you now need a "spotter" (Ritual targeting, p. 175) and only magical things (well, at least, things with auras) can be tracked in the astral space (Astral Tracking, p. 185)
Mister Juan
Apr 5 2006, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (Jaid) |
(like, you know... someone with a knowledge skill relating to lone star procedures, for example... *coughfelixcough* ) |
You lost me there...
Jaid
Apr 5 2006, 01:01 AM
hmmm... maybe i'm thinking of someone else... thought someone had that specific skill?
hmmm... maybe i'm badly misremembering in combination with "public library procedures"

ironically, i do think that was one of Steel's skills... alas, if i hadn't changed characters i could convince a hacker/TM to go check out the shack maybe, but then if i hadn't changed characters i wouldn't have someone to send to check it out... woe is me :'(

i'll get over it
Jaid
Apr 5 2006, 01:31 AM
ok then, rolls on the checking for node thing on the box/gun.
frustratingly enough, i have no scan CF. so, first things first, threading:
CODE |
resonance (3) + software (2) + home ground (2) = 7 dice 4, 1, [6], 2, 1, 3, 2 = 1 hit |
fading resist
CODE |
resonance (3) + willpower (4) + home ground (2) = 9 dice 1, 3, 3, [5], 3, 1, 2, 2, 3 = 1 hit |
no fading.
now, the scanning
CODE |
EW (2) + scan (1) + home ground (2) = 5 dice 4, [6], 4, 4, 2 = 1 hit [5], [6], [5], [6], 1 = 4 hits 2, [5], 1, 2, 2 = 1 hit |
now then, i'm pretty sure i only needed 4 hits because i know what i'm looking for, but i figured i'd throw on an extra set of rolls just in case.
in any event, that should let me know if there is any hidden node/
also, on the commlink thing... i guess data search + browse sounds reasonable to everyone to check for interesting info? well guess what. i don't have that either

so then, here we go again (remember, this is before the above even though i am posting it after)
CODE |
resonance (3) + software (2) + home ground (2) = 7 dice 1, [5], [6], 2, [5], 2, [5] = 4 hits |
not sure i want to soak 4 stun... but what the heck, i'll push my luck. seems a shame to waste all those hits

resistance
CODE |
resonance (3) + willpower (4) + home ground (2) = 9 dice 4, [5], 1, 3, 1, 2, [6], 4, 3 = 2 hits |
obviously should have only taken 2 of those dice

ah well, just gives nurse more training (or i could just rest for a couple hours, really). so then, 2 stun.
searching commlinks
CODE |
data search (4) + browse (2) + home ground (2) = 8 dice 1, 3, 1, [5], [6], 1, [5], 2 = 3 hits |
interval unknown, but i presume i will be able to drop it before making the detect hidden node tests.
Vegas
Apr 5 2006, 02:13 AM
@MK UltraI hope to hell that the rest of the stuff
China Doll brought was *real* food instead of soy equivalents
Otherwise
Halo's gonna be in a world of hurt
Rokur
Apr 5 2006, 03:42 AM
@magic team
Not trying to tell you what to do or anything... But couldn't you ward the whole building? or the first floor walls and ceiling. If I'm not mistaken, it's impossible to go underground in Astral Form.
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 03:46 AM
Warding a door is one thing, a room not so bad, but a whole building? That would require some heft supplies, no? I need to read up on SR4 wards, but I seem to recall there was certain materials required for the ward....
Silo
Apr 5 2006, 03:47 AM
Okay. Who owns the boat?
I thought it was JAX, but went and looked at the sheet after I posted. I've since edited my post to not state who has the boat.
I know someone does though....but who?
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 03:56 AM
I don't like the idea of the boat... I don't have access to a dice roller here at work, so I'll roll my stuff when I get home, which of course just leaves and open post till I can get the results 7 hours from now.
Unless someone can roll for me:
Scan 3 + Hardware 2 + Scanner (TF what rating is that scanner of yours?)
I'm also going to hack those fake ID's in the commlinks so that they can be used for anyone else, also scan for any tracer signal they may have.
Scan 3 + Hardware 2 + Scanner for signals.
Exploit 3 + Hardware 2 + Home Ground 2 for each commlink.
Again I'll do these rolls at home unless someone can spot me.
nick012000
Apr 5 2006, 03:59 AM
Neo's making a Security Design (Physical Security) test. I'm at uni, so I can't roll ATM.
Vegas
Apr 5 2006, 03:59 AM
I can roll for ya... I'm sitting here with nothing to do
Dranem: the scanner adds it's dice to your pool or what? from TFs sheet it's a rating 4 scanner.
nick012000
Apr 5 2006, 04:15 AM
That's fine, Vegas.
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 04:26 AM
QUOTE (Vegas) |
I can roll for ya... I'm sitting here with nothing to do
Dranem: the scanner adds it's dice to your pool or what? from TFs sheet it's a rating 4 scanner. |
That would give me 4 more dice on my scanning checks, thanks for the offer.
Vegas
Apr 5 2006, 04:26 AM
I apologize ahead of time if I screw these up, I'm still getting used to SR4 rules/rolls

TEE HEE! I think TG's dice roller
likes me

Wyrm:
Your first scan.
CODE |
Scan (3) + Hardware (2) + Scanner (4) = 9 dice [5] 4 4 2 2 [5] 1 [5] [5] Hits:4 |
Fake ID's
Signals
CODE |
Scan (3) + Hardware (2) + Scanner (4) = 9 dice 4 [5] [6] [6] 1 4 [6] 3 [5] Hits:5 |
Commlink 1
CODE |
Exploit (3) + Hardware (2) + Home Ground (2) = 7 dice [5] [5] 4 [6] [6] 2 [5] Hits:5 |
Commlink2
CODE |
Exploit (3) + Hardware (2) + Home Ground (2) = 7 dice [6] 2 4 1 [6] [5] 1 Hits:3 |
Neo:
CODE |
Logic (3) + Sec. Des Physical (4) + Home Ground (2) = 9 dice [5] 1 3 [6] [5] 3 [6] [6] 1 Hits:5 |
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 04:37 AM
Well, lets see..
With those results I should know if the box is bugged, and if the commlinks are broadcasting a 'I'm lost/stolen' beacon.
Not sure about commlink 2, but commlink 1 is cracked and useable for anyone now. And considering it's got a fakeID, makes a good disposable unit.
[edit]
Just don't leave any fingerprints or porn on it if you do.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 04:38 AM
QUOTE (Vegas) |
Otherwise Halo's gonna be in a world of hurt |
I thought there would be soy in almost any chinese restaurant food (as in Soya sauce, etc.) so this menue would have been special anyway. But I figured, Halo would be the only one (except CR & TR, probably) abled to recognize the DeMcCoy instantly on sight & smell! Also I figured with her statement and aproximately 2 douzend people around, somebody would eat this in no time. So everybody gets what they expected
And than maybe, after Halo totaly fliped and somebody else was a convincing culprit (and covinced him-/herself

), along comes Felix, the Hero, and saves the day
I´m so devious

maybe TF will just eat it himself
Vegas
Apr 5 2006, 04:44 AM
QUOTE (MK Ultra) |
I thought there would be soy in almost any chinese restaurant food (as in Soya sauce, etc.) so this menue would have been special anyway. But I figured, Halo would be the only one (except CR & TR, probably) abled to recognize the DeMcCoy instantly on sight & smell!
And than maybe, after Halo totaly fliped and somebody else was a convincing culprit (and covinced him-/herself ), along comes Felix, the Hero, and saves the day
I´m so devious maybe TF will just eat it himself |
Oh she would if she bothered to look
and you and your plot to put felix and halo together... you're gonna get TF into a lot of trouble!
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 04:44 AM
I should remind TG this, but - as Wyrm tends to be security minded (more of a security decker than a hacker if you've seen her posts so far), she's always scanning for anomalous signals, rogue traces, etc.. it's her nature as she's always in tune with the Matrix around her.
I know I don't always post this, so I guess I should be adding that in more as a reminder to myself as much as anyone

Still getting used to the Technomancer ups and downs.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 04:50 AM
QUOTE (Dranem @ Apr 4 2006, 11:37 PM) |
[edit] Just don't leave any fingerprints or porn on it if you do. |
Bronze Wyrm does her own pr0n?

sorry, all serious now! No, whait, with my reputation already slandered, I cant resist:
I´m probably a slimebag wraped into the skin of a nice guy (or was it the other way around

), but if not for the second sentence, I´d heaviely considering to change the first...
QUOTE (Halo´s BG) |
...her quick hands and skilled tongue helped her survive on the streets. ... She’s never stooped to prostitution, ... |
Now seriously
@Dranem & Vegas
Wouldn´t you use Electronic Warfer (which falles into Cracking), rather than Hardware?
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 04:56 AM
@Vegas
Naw, all planed for, he will get someone to eat it, befor she´s got an oportunity. At least, thats plan A. plan C will probably be, puting the real meal into some other gangers posessions

Now, these rolles you made, imagin, what we could do with your dice roller afinity and TF´s pool-dice-pool
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 04:58 AM
Now I feel ashamed

EDIT:
I´m sorry, I just woke up after three hours of sleep, maybe I should go back to bad, without doing another post.
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 05:08 AM

I've always seen Electronic Warfare as an 'on-the-fly' cybercombat skill, where you are hacking an item someone is attending or a drone.
What I'm doing is cracking the encryption ID on the device so that it's now an open unit that anyone can use.. once someone stakes a claim, I'll Edit the admin file and lock the device down. Which to me is a Computer Test. Either way, my Cracking Group and my Electronics Group are at the same level, so it's the same test either way.

As for porn, Wyrm hasn't touched the device, whatever skanky/kinky/disgusting ork porn on there is not mine I swear!
Vegas
Apr 5 2006, 05:11 AM
Dirty dirty minds in this thread! Sheesh!
Nice way to take that comment out of context MK Ultra
mmmm Ork pr0n! I mean uhh.. EEEEW DISGUSTING!
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 05:42 AM
Sigh, I would have so much liked, not to warn Neo, but with a sever allergy, thats probably not nice. Still, TF was the one suggesting something with peanut in the first place

.
I´ll go on sleeping now, read you later, chummers, gn8.
Dranem
Apr 5 2006, 11:10 AM
I don't suppose rushing him over to Nurse's Dad's ShadowClinic to have his stomach pumped would be fun either...
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 11:55 AM
So, are we going to return the 150

to the stuffer, when the star goes away? Only part of it? Nothing? Looks to me, like the loot from the thugs is the lions share and the 150

could well be returned in full, as a gesture of good will to the stuffer (maybe subtracting the cost of ammo and medical supplies, we used).
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Dranem) |
I don't suppose rushing him over to Nurse's Dad's ShadowClinic to have his stomach pumped would be fun either... |
We´ll have that plasure eventually

, for now, let´s just focus on the job at hand (besides, the Star will probably check on known shadow clinics, for participants of the fight).
I wonder if there is some bodylotion with peanut oil in it, that could serve as a really potent Neo-detergent for the girls

. Or else they can just put on some milk and peanut butter
Rokur
Apr 5 2006, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (Dranem) |
Warding a door is one thing, a room not so bad, but a whole building? That would require some heft supplies, no? I need to read up on SR4 wards, but I seem to recall there was certain materials required for the ward.... |
wards are free just time and max space ( 50 m squared x magic attrinute total)
DireRadiant
Apr 5 2006, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (Vegas) |
Otherwise Halo's gonna be in a world of hurt  |
It's the hallmark of a good poison.. resteranteur to make sure customers tastes and needs are cared for. Triple Happiness chicken uses white sauce, no soy....
DireRadiant
Apr 5 2006, 01:10 PM
If China Doll wants to go look at the Stuffer Shack node, what are the hacking/computer actions that should be done? Initially I assume some spoofing to hide her own identity, some observation, and possibly Exploit?
TinkerGnome
Apr 5 2006, 01:12 PM
On the alcohol antidote, a "sober up" pill will run you about 10

and work in about half an hour. However, you're talking an allergy and that's a little different. There really isn't an antidote for it, except for reorganizing your character to remove the quality (still an option at this moment) or buying it off with karma (an option now and later).
No one is able to find any transmissions coming from the gun or its box. It looks like someone has made an effort to make the gun untracable, though the tight plastic wrapping is probably significant in some way.
One commlink has a criminal SIN attached to it and one of the others has a R1 fake ID in it. The SIN is probably invalid now, but the fake ID might still work... use at your own risk. The other one had nothing of use.
TinkerGnome
Apr 5 2006, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (DireRadiant) |
If China Doll wants to go look at the Stuffer Shack node, what are the hacking/computer actions that should be done? Initially I assume some spoofing to hide her own identity, some observation, and possibly Exploit? |
I won't make you roll. The node is clean at this point. The Star apparently took some data off and erased it from the node.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ Apr 5 2006, 08:12 AM) |
On the alcohol antidote, a "sober up" pill will run you about 10 and work in about half an hour. However, you're talking an allergy and that's a little different. There really isn't an antidote for it, except for reorganizing your character to remove the quality (still an option at this moment) or buying it off with karma (an option now and later). |
@ GM
sober up pill sounds good. I don´t want to bring him to the level of a normal user with antidote, only level the field, so when he takes sober-up + alcohol, he will have a similar effect, to one without allergy who drinks some without the pill. He will probably still see a stronger effect then a normal body 2 drinker, and the hang-over might be more unpleasant, but he won´t be all drunk and barfing after a singel drink or two. In gameterms, the regular alcohol effect (disorientation for some time, nausea after some more drinks) will be cut out, but he will still suffer the allergys -2 dice, which should resemble normal alcohol effects in RP.
He will probably have bought more then one pop (have to check finances first) and taken one right away, which is probably wasted, because he won´t start drinking in the current situation.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 01:33 PM
@ GM againSay, could TF controll his comlink through an external simrig, in a similar way as via datajack (doesn´t have to be as flashy and convenient, as the real implants, but closer then AR gloves and subvocal mikro)? I know, its 1k

and Avail 12, so it will be some time, till he gets one, but not as long as boosting magic untill he feels powerfull enough to get implants.
MK Ultra
Apr 5 2006, 01:53 PM
On Astral bariers
Just read up on magical lodges and noticed, that we probably have 2 level 3 astral bariers, allready active, one at Ravens place, and one in the Y (TF´s sanctuary).
With the shared lifestyle rules up, I´ll try to scrap together 500

, to upgrade TF´s starting lifestyle to Low.
The normal rules from SSG would reduce cost by 25 % for living with parents (and similar setups), but a real shared lifestyle betweem PC´s would be much more compicated to calculate (though probably more then 50% off, with that many people and the HQ qualifying forthe Crashpad disadvantage), so I think the 50% rule is fair and easy.
DireRadiant
Apr 5 2006, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (TinkerGnome) |
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Apr 5 2006, 08:10 AM) | If China Doll wants to go look at the Stuffer Shack node, what are the hacking/computer actions that should be done? Initially I assume some spoofing to hide her own identity, some observation, and possibly Exploit? |
I won't make you roll. The node is clean at this point. The Star apparently took some data off and erased it from the node.
|
But I like to roll dice! Okay, this is more to just figure out how China Doll knows.
CODE |
Software Spoof hacking 1 + Spoof 3 (2) 5 4 3 1 = 1 Hit oops, well, China Doll has a great alibi, while the Stuffer Shack murder was going down, she was at a meet with the Circle A, they can vouch for her...!
Observe in Detail - Looking at the Stuffer Shack Node, e.g. Possibly discovering it's been "cleaned' or had stuff copied. Computer 1 + Analyze 4 = 5 5 5 5 1 1 = 3 Hits
Looking for publically stuff from around the time of the incident. Data Search 1 + Browse 4 = 5 6 5 4 3 1 = 2 hits
|
On a more significant nature, is the Video warning/tag Neo loaded onto the Stuffer Shack still available or known about?
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