The bike might get yoinked... Might want to leave a Watcher and summon a beast when / if we need it. After sundown you might summon a true spirit to watch it overnight.

Overnight! I thought the plan was to sleep until Louie went to work then turn him into spaghetti sauce.

Actually - I had anticipated the bike option. My thinking is that if two trolls can fit in the back then one Harley can. That'd pretty much rule out anyone else riding in back...

Up to you guys.

I am pretty close to just going with an amalgamation of the various ideas y'all have thrown out just for the sake of keeping things moving.

* Everyone goes in.

* Angel programs the sec measures Konsaki just outlined (no test for that).

* The van stays "concealed" at least until dusk.

* The bike goes in the back.

* Only problem is you guys were talking seriously about some summoning - that definitely requires dice...

I will PROBABLY be back online in about eight hours from now. Or else it'll be 50 or 60 hours. So if I do get back online, I will probably go with the above and move forward.

My only concern with the bike going in the van is the length of the bike. I dont know if Sledge bike is some ugly ass cruiser harley or more like a chopper which are stretched out or a race bike. I guess it doesnt really matter though. The van's cab opens up into the rear. The rear or front wheel of the bike can be sandwhiched between the front seats and stuff. Although puting the bike in backwards with possably a fat rear wheel like a chopper would probably wedge it in pretty good.

Im for stuffing it in the van.

@adamu. I can see being strict when trying to heal physical damage but shouldnt stun damage be alot more lenient. I was going to reference boxing and MMA but I bet guys who get knocked out take a shower, go home, and sleep for 6-9 hours. Well thats when they max out their stun boxes isnt it. The guys who take damage but dont get knockd out probably go about their business like nothing happened. I seriously doubt they go home and goto bed to rest....

But then again what about somebody like Cerberus who is pretty fragged up all over with physical and stun. I think maybe people who get physical wounds or max out their stun boxes should be highly motivated to get someplace safe and get some sleep.

So maybe physical wounds = strict, stun wounds = lax, physical and stun = strict?? Oh well i was just thinking outloud. Im not trying to take shortcuts or anything.

Stuffing and concealment sounds good to me. I'd go with that.

Abbandon

I appreciate your comments on stun and healing.

It certainly never hurts to apply a little real world knowledge and experience when adjudicating as a GM.

In this case, however, I think I am still gonna go back to strict just for game purposes.
There just has to be some sort of "penalty" for taking hits, and if they are too easy to heal off, then it sort of loses its meaning.
So this is just me doing my time on the bad guy side of the GM equation.

Okay, heard back from pragma with no mention of going ahead with further summoning, so I think we are good to go on my IC post. Stay tuned.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! I have something important to add!

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Hmm... nevermind, I guess I dont. As you were.

Konsaki - dude, I can't tell if you are serious or just trying to torture me. If you really do have something to add, say so and we'll work it out.

In any case, IC post is up.

I am guessing you guys will have questions before deciding what to do, but I don't know what they are, so I'll just wait and give you the answers you need before you decide on a course of action.

The rooms at the ends of the hallway:
Do they have doors?
What sounds come from them?
What do we see inside them?
Do the person/people in the rooms look like they can be bullied out by the trogs?
Are there windows in the rooms?
Do they have glass in them?
Are there furnature in the rooms?
Do you want a perception check?
How long is the hallway from end to end and where is the stairwell in relation to the length of the hallway?
Am I asking enough questions?
Are there fire escapes at the ends of the hallway?
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Is there anything big that we can use to block the door to a room other than Rocky or Cerberus?


Edit:
Are there any wireless signals in the area other than ours?
What are they broadcasting if they are active?

Perception Check
Intuition 4 + Perception 2 + Vis Enh 3 + Observe in detail 3 - Interfering sight/odor/sound -2 = 10 dice
5,5,6,6,2,3,4,6,5,4 - 6 hits

Thinking about it, if all 6 hits stand, Caittie sees everything... even stuff she doesnt want to...

*thinks cerberus will be thankfull for the ability to turn his hearing off*

What if we shouted "fire" and then everyone that heard it would leave. All the druggies and non responsive people we could just throw down the stairs and then we could barricade that door back up and have the whole floor to ourselves? hehehe.

Cerberus does have 3 smoke grenades and 1 flashbang.

...Cerberus's would-be IC(open for all):


Uhh and then thats where adamu goes into detail about the rest of the room/guy and then I proceed with my plan mwahahaha. I dont want to tell you guys what it is though cuz you might try to stop me.

Shoot, having Sledge ride the hog up the stairs would have been a fun scene...

Roof access? That would be behind the padlocked fire door?

Adamu.

Nearest place to buy food. did we pass any. Also standard survival kits. If ntohing else we'll need blankets and several pup tents might help.

I think if Cerberus doesn't end up killing the entire Posse, Sledge is going to have to go out and do some shopping. Since whatever Cerberus is going to do is more immediate, I'll wait on that before doing anything.

The fire escape Adamu eluded to it leading down to the ground floor. There could be a vertical ladder stuck to the wall out there to i guess.

Well I guess since Dire read my post and didnt say no I will go ahead with it hehe.


Also I am having computer problems. If i disappear for 24 hours or more no matter what day it is then you can assume the worse. (There is something eating away at my virtual memory or some crap? Its not a virus though cuz i got full on norton.)

tents and blankets for the few hours we will be resting ??

I don't know what Cerb's up to and so I'll wait on an IC. Howevver, I think that we could probably pay someone for a room and then not have a small army of squatters ready to kill us on our way out. I'll IC accordingly if I'm allowed to.

Well I had included some small actions with your character.

@Adamu


@Team
I'm looking forward to creating up a good IC post for the entire situation, this is a fun situation, but dont wait on me. I can always make big posts to bring myself back up to the action.

Just do it before cerberus implodes the building down on top of everyone, cept possably sledge. Depends on how fast she walks hehehe. Well i guess I shouldnt joke about that. I dont want to rush you. What im planning to do probably wont affect anything.

*rubs hands together*

@Adamu

DireRadiant

You haven't exactly explored the neighborhood, but you have seen almost no signs of open commerce, and none on the main road for the last several klicks.

What you have seen in the vicinity are some sort of carts and stands - street vendors clinging to whatever safety the open presence of the gangers offers. The smells were not what you'd call appetizing.

Several kilometers back down the highway, where I-206 branched off southward, you passed through the northern edge of what looked like an enormous flea market, and you saw what looked like electric lighting in 20+ story buildings farther south.

Oh, and whether the chained fire door leads to roof access is anyone's guess at this point.

By the way everyone - the building is five stories total.

Konsaki

BlackHat

Okay, I don't see anything I need to do for you. Let me know whatever else you need from me.

**edit** @Adamu. Well I did the following stuff before i saw Pragma's IC post. I'd like to wait for Fortunato to do his thing, but if you feel that I should do the following thats fine..


Cerberus

Well there is no easy way to do it.... Cerberus will try to kick in the last door on the right of the hallway. Once he kicks the door in or if he fails he will sidestep and stand next to the door( and look in if the door gave).

Initiative in case I need it.
11- wounds 3 = 8 dice
6, 5, 2, 5, 6, 1, 4, 2 = 4 hits
final init = 12

Door kick
Unarmed Combat 12 - wounds 3 = 9 dice
1, 3, 1, 4, 2, 4, 4, 1, 3 = no hit, no glitch

Im not liking this apartment! Cerberus will wait a few seconds and listen for any sounds coming from that room.

@Abbandon

Planning to start projecting as per my IC. Don't know if that changes Cerberus' OOC actions.

@adamu

Projecting and poking my head into each door as I float down the hall (this is, of course, assuming the place isn't teeming with astral predators.)

Looking for rooms with relatively small numbers of people in total, or relatively large numbers of corpses. After figuring out the most promising room I'll assense the occupants. Six assensing rolls included below.

Int + Assensing - 2 wounds:
# dice: 6 :: 5 1 4 3 1 6 -- 2 successes
# dice: 6 :: 1 2 5 4 5 2 -- 2 successes
# dice: 6 :: 4 5 4 4 1 3 -- 1 success
# dice: 6 :: 5 5 6 1 3 4 -- 3 successes
# dice: 6 :: 4 1 2 4 5 4 -- 1 success
# dice: 6 :: 3 4 4 6 4 4 -- 1 success
# dice: 6 :: 2 6 2 5 1 5 -- 3 successes

At which point I'll return and report.

Probably nothing for a while. Going along with my previous plan to hit classes for a while (a LONG while PBP-time) and then I'll try to call some of those fixers, the team, and meet Ms. DelGato.

But, without too much chronomancy, I'll jsut have to observe for a while.

Speaking of which... I am so glad Adam bailed before spending the day sleeeping with dead radioactive homeless people. You guys enjoy that, I'll be sipping my latte on a couch in the enginerring hall's cafeteria.

Okay - Abbandon said he is waiting to kick the door until after Fort does the astral sweep.

pragma - no astral anything around here, although the whole place has a Background Count of 1, with a few 2s and even a 3 in one room.

Rather than detail all the occupants of every room, I will cull the list based on some parameters I think it is safe to assume you would use -

1. You said rooms with fewer occupants.

2. I will avoid the background counts of 2 or 3.

Most rooms are pretty crowded. As a general rule, the less crowded the room, the stronger the aura of the occupant(s).

The room that Abbandon is about to break into has a girl very unconscious on a bed, while in the center of the room sits a big guy with lots of cyber watching the trid.

Back nearer to the elavator shaft garbage chute is a room with lots of "equipment" of some sort all over tables. There are two awake males in there, and they are doing stuff with the equipment, making something or mixing something or something. They are both pretty unhealthy.

Every other room has at least three people or a background count of 2 or higher. Let me know if you want to widen the search parameters and check out some other rooms. No need for further rolls.

Well I vote for the room occupied by those two guys next to the shaft. Will wait for iC posts and other people's votes though.

As long as this is a Fortunato moment how about he whips up a watcher that can materialize or something and use it to talk to the two guys in the room and try to scare them into leaving it ? lol.

I'm interested in the rooms with three occupants, it seems like we could pay off three people reasonably effectively. Once I've IDed those rooms I'll probably manifest and tell folks what I've found.

@adamu

Cleaned up list of search parameters. We're looking for a room with:
1. Small number of people
2. Small amount of cyberware and magic in those people
3. People with poor health
4. People who look miserable, weak and easily preyed upon
5. People who are sleeping or just hanging out and not making bombs or drugs( or being professional kidnappers/rapists or whatever the cybered guy is up to).

Generally the hope is to find a group of downtrodden, hopeless who we can pay to leave their squat for a day.

While I have an opinion OOC, I would like there to be IC sharing of information and discussion. The sequence of events and chain of IC decision making is and has proven to be the way most of this stuff gets resolved.

OOC, I will point out I consider it highly unlikely that disrupting the drug lab operation is not going to in turn provoke the heavily cybered guy and in turn the rest of the gang. I'm sure they didn't "invite' us in with intention of letting us screw up their livelihood.

I agree that the drug lab and cyber monster both seem like bad ideas. I was hoping for a sickly family of three to whom we could exchange table scraps in exchange for their room. We'll see what adamu says about rooms with triple, instead of double, occupancy.

Worst case we could just crash in a room with a smelly corpse and crying baby. We're really not hoping for much more than a chance to sleep and the heavily armed trolls ought to buy us some breathing room.

They said any room on this floor. Which implies the cookers are not with the gang.

Two guys and a small amount of chemicals is not a drug production lab. Implies they arent with the gang.

The cybered guy down the hall being related to the guys in the drug lab is anyones guess. Why would he be so far away?

Why would a gang put a drug lab on the third floor of a building packed with desperate end of their rope people who could try to raid the lab or rat them out??

"While I have an opinion OOC, I would like there to be IC sharing of information and discussion. The sequence of events and chain of IC decision making is and has proven to be the way most of this stuff gets resolved."

I dont know what that means but it sounds like its directed at me?? The stuff i say ooc is to let other people know what im thinking so they dont have to ask me later and wait for a response. Otherwise I think i have been waiting for stuff to play out IC.

Abbandon

Obviously I am not privy to Dire's twisted thoughts, but the way I read his statement it was a general comment directed at the whole team.
There is a fine line between OOC and IC planning. OOC is faster, and lets all the players have a full say in things without worrying about their characters' relative loquacity, etc.
Fast is good, especially in forum games, but slipping too far into OOC planning deprives the group of RP chances.

I think Dire is just suggesting that the pendulum has swung too far in the OOC direction and would like it to swing back a bit.

Anyway, that's just how I read it.

But while people are online but you don't have the results of pragma's extended search, well, since he hasn't reported IC, you can't really discuss in IC.

So -

pragma

As stated, fewer people per square meter implies greater ability to buy/barter/protect that space.

Looking for something resembling a sick, desperate family certainly turns up a number of hits, but the smallest number of people is five - man, woman, three small children. There are three other likely families - all larger.

The family of five is near the stairwell you guys came up.

Alright, that's good enough for me to return and report. I can't IC right now, if someone else wants to get the ball rolling, go for it.

Posting up an IC.

@pragma
Hope you dont mind me putting words in Fort's astral mouth.

@JD
Pragma had stated in an earlier post that Fort was going to manifest to give his report, not return to his body. Your post sorta conflicts with this only in the fact that Fort cant talk over the Comm Net while astral.
I'll still play off Rocky sending out his message, though.

@Konsaki
I missed the maifest thing, I'll edit my post to cover that.

Heads up - Rocky was not using the comm, he was just talking out loud to the people standing there.

JD

I think I'll commit to Sledge actually leaving for the stairs down, fully trusting all of you to manage to find a room. So feel free to include in your posts Sledge not being in the hallway, or present for the negotiations, or whatever else happens for the immediate moment.

Can do.

Ready, Set, RP!

Dpn't know if anyone saw it, but I was going with Angle doing the talking- but by the time I finished the post Pragma had already stepped up.

Adjusted post, following Fort's lead.

JD