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adamu
BlackHat
I don't have my Runner Havens with me. I guess all those Puget Sound islands are called Outremer now or something, but the largest island in the Sound is Vashon Island, and it'll still be called that.
Not sure if it is officially part of the Metroplex or Salish, but assume that her address is still administered by Seattle.
It is in Vashon Heights, on the northern tip of the island.
As you can imagine, it is an extremely upscale community.
BlackHat
Cool. I would have imagined that she and Cal and their Earthen friends were all holed up in some commune or co-op or something, but I do recall you telling me a long time ago that Deerwalker was a spoiled rich kid who liked protesting things. That, or she and Call suddenly hit the jackpot.

Just so we're on the same page, as far as Adam recalls, did she always live off campus or do I remember her and Cal living closer to the earth before they went Prime Time?
I'll put together another IC response, and maybe move forward the requested 2 hours (calling u pthe team ,etc), but I'll plan on the meeting with her taking place later that night - so well within the 24-hour planning period.
adamu
You never knew exactly where she lived - she "stayed" a lot of places. But you always knew she came from money.

You are unaware of any of the Earthens actually living "close to the earth." Tried to make clear in earlier ICs that they almost never practice what they preach regarding transportation, diet, or whatever, unless it just happens to be convenient for them to do so (in which case they wear it on their sleeve). All the ones you know where they live, they just live in houses or dorm or whatever they can individually afford.
DireRadiant
Those Earthens are such posers.
BlackHat
QUOTE (adamu)
You never knew exactly where she lived - she "stayed" a lot of places. But you always knew she came from money.

You are unaware of any of the Earthens actually living "close to the earth." Tried to make clear in earlier ICs that they almost never practice what they preach regarding transportation, diet, or whatever, unless it just happens to be convenient for them to do so (in which case they wear it on their sleeve). All the ones you know where they live, they just live in houses or dorm or whatever they can individually afford.

Yeah, I remember that, now. Good to know. IC up.
(Been about a week since Adam last saw them, been about a year since they've come up IC. wink.gif)

As for the message to the team. If its convienent, I'm thinking we'll plan to meet up around dinner time, baring Plot - if for no other reason than to figure out where everyone is going next, explain that its okay to come out of hiding, and maybe talk about how much action we want to take on, and the possibility of pooling some of our resources. If we can do some team-building, that would be great, too. biggrin.gif
DireRadiant
So what is the time of day that the 36 hours ends again?

Sledge is probably going to cut out and go for a motorcycle ride, after checking Fortunato has recovered as best as can be.

While out and traveling around she's going to start casing jobs focused on stealing gear that's on her shopping list. Unsophisticated, but she's got to start somewhere. Probably commercially available items such as enhanced eye and ear ware is easiest to begin with.

And find a coffin hotel or tow, and a set of storage lockers to store some stuff. Hmm, which reminds me that it might be a good idea to ask Fortunato IC if he can ward a storage locker.
BlackHat
I believe the downtime started around midnight between wednesday and thursday. So, 36 hours later would be noon on friday.
adamu
Dire

Yeah - noonish Friday is end-36/start-2 (24 rough)

A quick IC of your casings will get you dice bonuses at such future time as you seriously begin casing a place. Assume you can find all the sorts of places you mentioned.
JDragon
Well as sad as it sounds Rocky doesn't have much going on outside the motel room & the team at this point. The fact that he has no transportation of his own and a fairly recognizable face doesn't help any either.

The couple things he wants to look in to, (The plastic surgery & checking on his parents) can't really be addressed for for now.

So unless they get kicked out or someone kicks the door in Rocky will hang out at the hotel and try to relax/meditate to help fight off the bad days he's knows are coming from not taking his pills till Smith shows up for the meeting.


JD
Konsaki
Just got the wisdom teeth yanked, and so far I'm feeling pretty good, but I'm not able to talk. Meh.
Still working on a RP post that doesnt affect the rest of the team.
Abbandon
So...a drivers license probably has to be tied to a specific vehicle right?

Cerberus will be going to his weapons and ammo contact Davey to pick up the gel rounds and extra clips. I dont know how he is going to get there or where he is going after.

It would be cool if we could all meet up at Club Rain again.
adamu
QUOTE (Abbandon)
So...a drivers license probably has to be tied to a specific vehicle right?


Can't tell if you are joking or not, but no, driver's license does not have to be tied to a vehicle.

Of course legally purchased vehicles have registrations of their own (the van, by the way, broadcasts a legal reg...I have assumed Angel has been spoofing it along with all your comms).

JDragon

Considering your former celebrity status, I guess it goes without saying you'll want to exercise discretion on who redoes your face, if you go that route. But the good news is that it's practically an outpatient procedure by 2070.
Do you have Augmentation?
If not, I will help with with the rules and options on that.
JDragon
Adamu

I have it, but have not looked that closely at it yet.

I'll try and look over the rules so I know whats up. Got any page #'s for me? Not a big deal if not.

Yeah I'm aware Rocky will have to be careful who he has do the work so his new mug isn't connected to his old one.

UPDATE

Ok I have looked over the rules and I only have 1 question at this point.

Will I be able to get enough work done, that I will not be easily recognized by most people without it effecting my Essence rating? The cost didn't look to bad, so the trick will be finding someone I can get to do it.

JD
Konsaki
Still working on an IC post, on page 2 of it right now, but I lost my train of thought earlier today by getting pissed at an online store not giving me my electronic product. Long story, not getting into it.

If I dont post up my IC in time, here's what Caittie's doing at 1200 Fri, she is going to be playing Miracle Shooterâ„¢ in a public park nearby Northgate Mall using Trainee and Novice levels to learn the basics.

Edit: Finished the IC post, and Caittie is still where I said she is, unless it's raining or looking to rain. Then she's getting some food in a resturant inside her price range.

Edit#2 : The look similar to that of the Uberflex Ironband is on my gear page.
Abbandon
Man Konsaki you do a great job with all your posts. I wish you would write more about you and your sprites actions in the matrix using the iconography and stuff though! But I understand your time is limited.
Konsaki
It all depends on if I have time in real life, along with how creative my mind is at the time I write the post. But thanks for the compliment. biggrin.gif
Abbandon
@Adamu
-Cerberus can drive the van but he would be at -2 for any tests because its not fitted for a troll right?
-Are you going to choose our names for our new SIN's or do you want us to?
-How long would it takes to go from the truck stop to Davey's and back? Apparently we werent using addresses back in the old days. So I dont have an actual address for Davey Anderson's weapon shop.

-I've asked and read about this in other threads but i still dont know the definate answer. Do I have to have a rigger control rig or have a rigger modified vehichle in order to use DNI commands on a vehicle??

All I want is to be able to do is sit in a chair or touch a steering wheel and be able to manually control the vehicle. I am not wanting to "jump in" or use a command program to issue commands.
Konsaki
QUOTE (Abbandon)
-I've asked and read about this in other threads but i still dont know the definate answer. Do I have to have a rigger control rig or have a rigger modified vehichle in order to use DNI commands on a vehicle??

All I want is to be able to do is sit in a chair or touch a steering wheel and be able to manually control the vehicle. I am not wanting to "jump in" or use a command program to issue commands.

You have two options, Abbandon, with the van:

1 - You can input the destination into the van's computer and it can drive itself (All driving tests are rolled by the van)
2 - You can use manual controls by personally manning the steering wheel, gas and brakes (You have to roll all driving tests using your own stats)
Abbandon
Theres more than that. How did riggers connect to vehicles with a datajack and fiber optics work in previous editions? What did they use/need?

I have DNI/datajack access to everything i tough.

Can I turn/accelerate/stop a vehicle with mental commands without a control rig or rigger box in the vehicle. I would be looking out the windows with my own cybereyes. I wouldnt "be" the van.

Konsaki
QUOTE (Abbandon @ Dec 20 2007, 08:38 PM)
Theres more than that.  How did riggers connect to vehicles with a datajack and fiber optics work in previous editions?  What did they use/need? 

I have DNI/datajack access to everything i tough.

Can I turn/accelerate/stop a vehicle with mental commands without a control rig or rigger box in the vehicle.  I would be looking out the windows with my own cybereyes.  I wouldnt "be" the van.


As of right now you have a DNI and Cold SIM, based off your character sheet on the wiki.
With that, you not only have the two options I previously listed, but you can also go into VR and control the vehicle with a command program. This way is basicly issuing alot of commands at once to control the van like a video game. The good thing is you dont have to be in the front seats to do this and you can see through the van's camera with no penalty.
You dont even really need a strong command program to do this, but better program/commlink = more hits on the command roll and a better response from the van.

It's up to Adamu if you can completely jack into the van and run it like a rigger without a control rig. The control rig description only says it gives a +2 to all tests when jacked it, but nothing says you cant jack in without it.
The major reason why Caittie hasnt bothered with it is because jacking in makes all rolls go off your personal stats and Caittie has crap stats compared to what the Van has as a base. She usually lets her Sprites do that, since they have a better dicepool. Cerberus has not that ability.

As for you, I would just have Cerberus tell the van where he wants to go and let the van do the driving, or manually drive the van yourself.
adamu
QUOTE (JDragon)


Ok I have looked over the rules and I only have 1 question at this point.

Will I be able to get enough work done, that I will not be easily recognized by most people without it effecting my Essence rating? The cost didn't look to bad, so the trick will be finding someone I can get to do it.

JD

Page 61 first column last full paragraph specifies that as long as there is no change to neural functionality, appearance changes through biosculpting carry NO essence cost.

So there it is in black and white, whatever one might otherwise guess based on the "minor" and "moderate" modification descriptions.

So consider all simple personal appearance alteration (within normal parameters for your metatype) to fall under "minor" for rules purposes.
adamu
Konsaki

Cool graphic. Too bad the Appleseed chick doesn't have pink hair, or it would've been perfect!
adamu
QUOTE (Abbandon)
@Adamu
-Cerberus can drive the van but he would be at -2 for any tests because its not fitted for a troll right?

Until such time as you get a seat mod, YES.

-Are you going to choose our names for our new SIN's or do you want us to?

You are free to choose them yourself.

-How long would it takes to go from the truck stop to Davey's and back? Apparently we werent using addresses back in the old days. So I dont have an actual address for Davey Anderson's weapon shop.

No address back in the old posts, huh? Well, thanks for looking. Reckon his shop is probably in the northern end of the downtown district (not the downtown core). Somewhere a block or so off of 99 a bit north of Green Lake. So maybe 45 minutes to an hour from where you are.

-I've asked and read about this in other threads but i still dont know the definate answer. Do I have to have a rigger control rig or have a rigger modified vehichle in order to use DNI commands on a vehicle??

All I want is to be able to do is sit in a chair or touch a steering wheel and be able to manually control the vehicle. I am not wanting to "jump in" or use a command program to issue commands.

In earlier editions you could do this and get a bonus for it. No mention I know of in the new BBB. And they have scaled back the control rig quite a bit, almost to the bonus you used to get just for driving by datajack.
There may well be an official answer to your question in Arsenal.
Until then -
Yes, you can drive by DNI. This will give you access to the vehicle's sensors (to the level of your upload medium - AR, cold sim, hot sim) and leave you hands free (as long as you have the means to maintain your interface). But no other bonuses.
As Konsaki noted, you also have the option of driving by autopilot - although anything more complicated than point A to point B will require a command test.

See in-line.

Hey, thought of you the other night as I was getting a long-overdue dose of American TV. MMA came on so I watched it just to get an idea what your character was into. Imagine my surprise to see that Georges St. Pierre was a real life fighter!
Abbandon
lol yeah. I dont know why i picked his name, but I have seen him fight. He fights in a good weight class, the 170 pounders. What did you think of MMA? None of my family or friends care about fighting. I like fighting, I used to be into boxing but then MMA started hitting the main stream and now I just cant stand to watch wrestling or boxing.

My only complaint is the Ultimate Fighting Championship's which is what you were probably watching runs there fights like boxing. They just toss random dudes into the ring and randomly match up people. I think the sport would be alot more exciting if it was in a tourament format where there was set guys who had to fight each other a set amount of times. Like soccer or football or baseball.
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu)
QUOTE (JDragon @ Dec 19 2007, 02:35 PM)


Ok I have looked over the rules and I only have 1 question at this point.

Will I be able to get enough work done, that I will not be easily recognized by most people without it effecting my Essence rating?  The cost didn't look to bad, so the trick will be finding someone I can get to do it.

JD

Page 61 first column last full paragraph specifies that as long as there is no change to neural functionality, appearance changes through biosculpting carry NO essence cost.

So there it is in black and white, whatever one might otherwise guess based on the "minor" and "moderate" modification descriptions.

So consider all simple personal appearance alteration (within normal parameters for your metatype) to fall under "minor" for rules purposes.

Ok cool.

So now I just need to find someone to do it. :-P

JD
BlackHat
Just hand Mr. J a knife, he's seen a few medical shows, and used to date a pre-med student.

Trust me. When he's done, your face will be unrecognizable. biggrin.gif
JDragon
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Just hand Mr. J a knife, he's seen a few medical shows, and used to date a pre-med student.

Trust me. When he's done, your face will be unrecognizable. biggrin.gif

Knowing Mr. J, he could probably sell Rocky on it to if he tried.

Thanks for the offer. biggrin.gif


JD
Abbandon
edit* well I beat you to the post and I've had lots of time to think on my post so I took it in a new direction. Cerberus has used 1 of his two hours, and has a question hanging with Davey.

*important info: Robery Nevall is my R1 on my good commlink, Quincy Stevens is my R4 on my crap commlink.

@adamu well I plan on asking Davey if Ezekiel has asked him to watch out for me or anything while im there. I gotta get some sleep though. If you have anything you want Davey to say, tell me and I will edit it in. I would type out everything i was going to say and let you fill in the blanks but that would defeat the purpose of me trying to stop lol.

ps: If anybody is in america and watched some current movies try to guess where his name Robert Nevall came from hehehe. Or I guess if you read books.
adamu
Abbandon

Everything you posted so far is fine.

You made a lot of assumptions regarding things like price, and Davey's attitude toward your situation with Smithers.
But that is more than cool - it keeps things moving for us, and I know you understand some of that might have needed editing.
Way to post and get things done.

So like I said, everything so far is cool with me - although I'd appreciate it if you'd fix one typo - you referred to "Mr. Smith" which is Johnson, when I am pretty sure you were talking about Ezekiel SMITHERS. Just because it's confusing I'd be grateful if you'd fix it.

As for Davey's response from this point regarding the RFID work (and maybe some other things), please give me an Etiquette test and a Negotiation test. Just give me the raw Charisma + Skill rolls, I'll work out the mods later.
Abbandon
I have no problems editing stuff =) I've made every edit you have asked for as far as I know.

Cerberus
Etiquette= influence 3 + charisma 3 = 6 dice
1, 5, 5, 2, 2, 2 = 2 hits

Negotiation= Influence 3 + charisma 3 = 6 dice
1, 4, 5, 1, 1, 3 = 1 hit, glitch (man I gotta write down glitch mechanics sometime. Half or more 1's with a hit = glitch and half or more 1's with no hit = critical? right?)

Am going to change references to smithers now.. sorry about that heh. I have it written in my notes and on the wiki i just went from my memory and well my memory sucks. I mean thats why I have a mispelled forum name even !
BlackHat
Yep, half 1's = glitch,... if no successes then critical glitch
JDragon
Quick ?

It looking like by mid-afternoon Rocky & Fort will be the only ones left in the motel room?

If that correct?

Also, by noon - 1pm what is Fort doing? This may be a good chance for them to have a disscussion about Rocky's new abilities.

JD
pragma
He's getting up and eating around midnight, then checking his bandages, reading Birnhauser's comm and flying into a blind paranoiac/homicidal rage till around 5 am. Then he's crashing until nine and musing a bit more rationally until noon or one.

He's also going to shoot cerberus a nasty message about staying behind wards when he remembers.

I'd be game to have him to a bit of IC with Rocky. I have the time now.
Abbandon
Hey I...well I forgot about the ward but i did stay in it for atleast 25-30 hours.
adamu
Yikes - last year when I stayed in Yokohama over the holidays I had oodles of free time and the boards were totally dead.

This year I plan an extensive vacation and you guys are burning up the threads!
NOT complaining - this is great.

I will try to keep up, but what I said last week about some absences on the horizon really will eventually come true...


Rocky

Yes, by the time of Cerb and Sledge's IC times, you and Fort are alone in the room.

adamu
Cerberus

Only stopped the IC to see what your response was to his business offer.

Please do not extend your IC out of the store. I will handle your departure.

And a quick note to everyone -

Y1 = $5

The default shadow currency is nuyen. I know in his last post Abbandon meant nuyen, but it is a bit confusing, since UCAS dollars are also in use in Seattle.
Konsaki
QUOTE (adamu)
And a quick note to everyone -

Y1 = $5

The default shadow currency is nuyen. I know in his last post Abbandon meant nuyen, but it is a bit confusing, since UCAS dollars are also in use in Seattle.

Good to know, but did you intend on that guy to say '800 nuyen' then?
JDragon
@Pragma,

Ok cool, I'll get a PM to you later today to get it started.

EDIT - 1st PM sent

JD
Abbandon
Oooops I read the IC first lol. I will go edit out all the other stuff. I will put the other stuff I wrote in here so you can maybe include it in your post because I did do more than just go home.

Original Post
[ Spoiler ]
Abbandon
I just assume everything is in nuyen. "wad of cash" can still be nuyen right? What do you call a wad of paper nuyen??
DireRadiant
@Pragma

The bag contains the decapitated head from the rigger we encountered at the clinic when we went to rescue Cerberus. It's been cleanly cut and treated chemically and packaged in a large plastic sealed bag which has been placed in another bag for carrying.
BlackHat
So, did you just leave the rest of the body laying on some table in Dr. Cline's clinic? biggrin.gif
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
So, did you just leave the rest of the body laying on some table in Dr. Cline's clinic? biggrin.gif

Yep.
BlackHat
So looking forward to the conversation with him where I try to apologize again and convince him that he wants our business... wink.gif
BlackHat
On the other side, you took the head, but left a whole bunch of pretty decent parts there. Arms, legs, whatever other cyber he might have had. If you think of it that way, he sort of owes us, already....
adamu
Merry Christmas everyone.

At the moment, I have not even had a chance to catch up on reading the threads. And I have unanswered PMs.
Just saying happy holidays and that I'm not ignoring anyone. Will get responses up as soon as time allows.
adamu
QUOTE (Konsaki)
QUOTE (adamu @ Dec 22 2007, 11:26 PM)
And a quick note to everyone -

Y1 = $5

The default shadow currency is nuyen.  I know in his last post Abbandon meant nuyen, but it is a bit confusing, since UCAS dollars are also in use in Seattle.

Good to know, but did you intend on that guy to say '800 nuyen' then?

Yes.
adamu
QUOTE (Abbandon)
I just assume everything is in nuyen. "wad of cash" can still be nuyen right? What do you call a wad of paper nuyen??

Yeah, "cash" will always be assumed to be in nuyen scrip unless otherwise stated.

Cash rare but not shocking for legal transactions (some places may not be set up to accept it, though). It is much more common, however, in the underground economy.

Tried to include at least the beginning of your IC post, but as you can see, events prevent using more of it. Hang on to it, though - you may be able to use it later. Maybe.
Konsaki
Ah... the FBI guys... We (Cerb) meet again... biggrin.gif

Good to see they're alive and ticking so to speak. At least it is for now. nyahnyah.gif
BlackHat
Unfortunately (for them), they picked Cerberus to meet up with, first. wink.gif They'll probably all be dead before the rest of us even hear about this. biggrin.gif
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