Full Version: How fast do helicopters fly when they strafe infan
| QUOTE (Kesslan) | ||
Maybe you should actually consider who I'm 'sniping at' with that comment. And its NOT the military. |
I don't really care WHAT you were sniping at, just that I was noticing a number of folks dragging off-topic politics into otherwise good threads.
"Stay on target". That's all.
Not gonna mention it again, as this is off target too.
-karma
| QUOTE (Nikoli) |
| Or, gusts of wind and wash out the roter. |
That's your best bet. I believe the technical term is "settling with power." A helo hovering in a confined area can set up a type of convection that creates a constant downdraft through it's own main rotor. It effectively downdrafts itself into the ground. If you could use an air elemental to create that downdraft that would work fairly well
. Also could be a good terrorist technique... "microbursts (massive downdrafts out of a dissipating T-storm)" are some of the most dangerous weather phenomena to aircraft. If you're terrorist mage were to create a strong enough downdraft on the final approach path of an aircraft... CRUNCH!! Runway pizza and nothing you can do about it from the cockpit.
| QUOTE (KarmaInferno) | ||||
I don't really care WHAT you were sniping at, just that I was noticing a number of folks dragging off-topic politics into otherwise good threads. "Stay on target". That's all. Not gonna mention it again, as this is off target too. -karma |
Karma, I know this is incindiary...
But if you have a problem with a post or the way a thread is going, do us all a favor. Either go whine to teacher, or keep your teeth together. It's one thing to get bitched out by a mod for our OTness, it's another to have nobody who's no better than any of us acting like a mod. That just pisses people off - you said it yourself, you're not a mod. Don't try to be one.
Or apply to be one, and then use the Mod Voice to calm things down.
Anyway, the runway pizza idea sounds.... Really effective. Why, exactly, do they still have aircraft?
Also, I should note that drones are unlike attach choppers, in that the right kind of drone can take and hold a position.
Please stop talking.
~J
~J
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
| Please stop talking. ~J |
I never said a word. I merely typed, a lot.
Anyway, woulden't the best way to frag an aircraft over be to order something like an earth or air elemental to Materialize inside it's engine?
| QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) |
| Anyway, woulden't the best way to frag an aircraft over be to order something like an earth or air elemental to Materialize inside it's engine? |
Now that is just, evil, I LOVE IT. talk about fodding out the turbines that would just lock them up, i mean lock everything up. Gods, its just so crazy it might work
Having a water elemental use engulf on the pilot of a sealed chopper would be hilarious. gurgle gurgle.
Well, that's the thing with helicopters. All helicopters appearing in previous games I've seen were usually easily taken out by magic. (Actually, usually Control Thoughts rather than elementals, but magic anyway.)
Magic in SR3 is really, really powerful, and this scenario I'm busy banging out is basically designed for a team that has a multiple mages and everyone is running around with like 15 karma pool.
Magic in SR3 is really, really powerful, and this scenario I'm busy banging out is basically designed for a team that has a multiple mages and everyone is running around with like 15 karma pool.
The helo of course will have a few elementals or a spirit guarding (or Guarding) it, if the group attacking them has any magical support. It will almost certainly have a Force 6 Ward on it. There is no need for people from outside the helo to be able to see the pilot, so casting spells directly at him/her wouldn't work. Control Thoughts on one of the doorgunners would still work, of course, unless the doors are covered somehow so that you only see the guns.
That's where the microburst/settling with power trick would be best, since you're not actually targeting the chopper with the spell, but the air around it. So any wards on the chopper itself wouldn't really be a factor.
No, but the Sky Spirit using Guard would be.
~J
~J
Ah well.. there is that....
| QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) | ||
I never said a word. I merely typed, a lot. Anyway, woulden't the best way to frag an aircraft over be to order something like an earth or air elemental to Materialize inside it's engine? |
Or in the case of a helicopter, manifest and dive into the main rotors. A Force 5 earth elemental should be a enough to break a rotor.
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
| No, but the Sky Spirit using Guard would be. ~J |
yeah but that wouldnt help the "elemental manipulation" spell that would rais a 15m earthen spike in a combat pass right in the helo's strafing path. Helo starts its dive, mage summons the spike, helo impales itself on the spike because the sky spirit nor the wards can help it now
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
| QUOTE (warrior_allanon) | ||
yeah but that wouldnt help the "elemental manipulation" spell that would rais a 15m earthen spike in a combat pass right in the helo's strafing path. Helo starts its dive, mage summons the spike, helo impales itself on the spike because the sky spirit nor the wards can help it now HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
The Physical Barrier spell works too and can be cast at any height. Put one in front of a helicopter or other aircraft and it would be like running into a wall.
Put one at the right angle and watch it shear off it's wing or rotors, too. That'd be fun.
re: the original topic, you might check out the relevant field manuals. the section i linked to has some good information, though i didn't find any information on proper strafing speed when i glanced through it.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| re: the original topic, you might check out the relevant field manuals. the section i linked to has some good information, though i didn't find any information on proper strafing speed when i glanced through it. |
I always like glancing through field manuals. Thanks!
| QUOTE (Thane36425) | ||
The Physical Barrier spell works too and can be cast at any height. Put one in front of a helicopter or other aircraft and it would be like running into a wall. |
Could just have the team troll throw a steel I-beam through the helicopter.
What?
-np
| QUOTE (KarmaInferno) |
| What? |
From the scenario described steel I-beams will not be common in the combat area. This would require the troll to bring a large sack of i-beams along, into the combat zone. To have one I-beam per potential enemy helicopter would require carrying around enough that any concept of radar subtlety will be gone and they'll have been attacked at or before the border.
I had forgetten about the Physical Wall spells until that other post, even though that was a common way my teams would rid themselves of aerial and land pursuit. It might not destroy the vehicle, but it would force a crash check. However, with Helos a strong enough Wall would probably break at least one blade before being dispelled.
It works with ground vehicles too. There is the obvious method of setting the wall for the pursuer to crash in to, whether flat or at an angle. My prefferred option was to have it angled up from the ground like a ramp. The incline would be slight so that at the end of the wall (figure 10 meters) the vehicle would be about 2 meters up. That's enough for most vehicles to nose dive into the ground and take them out of the chase.
It works with ground vehicles too. There is the obvious method of setting the wall for the pursuer to crash in to, whether flat or at an angle. My prefferred option was to have it angled up from the ground like a ramp. The incline would be slight so that at the end of the wall (figure 10 meters) the vehicle would be about 2 meters up. That's enough for most vehicles to nose dive into the ground and take them out of the chase.
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