Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: The Shadowrun Commando Program
Dumpshock Forums > Discussion > Shadowrun
Pages: 1, 2
the_dunner
Hey folks,

The Commando program is FanPro's demo team. Members are encouraged to run game sessions of Shadowrun at public locations where anybody who's interested can join in. Examples of places include game shops, conventions, game days, and college game clubs.

Currently, the program has a lot of members interested in running Classic Battletech, but not nearly enough to run Shadowrun. We've received a number of requests to run Shadowrun at conventions or game shops where we just don't have GMs.

So, we'd like to fix that.

Here's how the program works:

-Commandos are required to run a minimum of 3 events annually. An event means a public game session. So, if you go to one con and run 3 game sessions, you've hit your minimum requirements. Games do need to be scheduled in advance through the Commando web site, and you will need to fill in a (very brief) report about the game afterwards.

-In return, Commandos receive complementary products from FanPro and substantial discounts with a number of manufacturers who make products that are associated with FanPro game lines. Compensation is proportionate to the number of games you run annually. Run 3 annually, and you'll be nicely compensated. Run 6, and it'll be nicer.

-Commandos receive Shadowrun Missions scenarios about a month before the public receives them.

-When developers are looking for playtesters, Commandos are the first place that they look. If you're interested in becoming a playtester for Shadowrun, joining the Commando program is a very good way to put yourself on the candidate list.

Application to the program has been simplified. If you'd like to join, hit the Commandohq.com website, and click on the Enroll button. Once you've filled out your information, you should receive a PDF file with some additional paperwork. That spells things out in solid detail. Essentially, applicants need to either mail or fax in that additional paperwork. With that, they need to include a short essay explaining why they'd like to join the program, and either a short scenario or a letter (included in the PDF) signed by their FLGS manager, stating that they'd like to have the applicant run games there.

To get more information about the Commando program or to apply, hit the public web site at www.commandohq.com. Alternatively, drop me a PM, an e-mail, or just a post in this forum and I'll try to do my best to help out.
bibliophile20
do the games have to be official FanPro game modules? Because I'm already running four one-shots at my school's con; would that qualify?
the_dunner
QUOTE (bibliophile20)
do the games have to be official FanPro game modules?

Nope. The only requirement is that they use the latest version of game system's rules. (So, for Shadowrun - 4th edition.) Of course, since I'm the Missions Coordinator, it makes me happy when folks choose to run Missions. However, it's absolutely NOT a requirement.

QUOTE
Because I'm already running four one-shots at my school's con; would that qualify?


Those would absolutely qualify. cyber.gif
Gnomish Mustard
I would be interested in having this program at my store and my convention.

The convention is coming up soon however, so I am not sure if there is time. I have a pretty solid candidate that runs our game outside of the store.

How long would it take for him to become a commando? The convention is at the end of March, 30th - April 1st. www.Distracticon.com

I am unfamiliar with this missions program. Can you post a link to some literature?

Thanks,
GM



bibliophile20
Awesomeness.

Now my only worry is having enough people sign up for each run to actually run them.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Gnomish Mustard)
How long would it take for him to become a commando? The convention is at the end of March, 30th - April 1st. www.Distracticon.com

From the time that we receive the paperwork, admission to the program can be pretty quick. PM or e-mail me once your candidate submits his paperwork (for fastest return, please fax it rather than mailing it), and I'll see to it that things are expedited to meet the timeframe you've mentioned.

QUOTE
 
I am unfamiliar with this missions program.  Can you post a link to some literature? 


The Shadowrun Missions campaign is the FanPro's worldwide ongoing campaign for Shadowrun. Full information on the campaign is on the main Shadowrun Web Site. There's also a discussion forum for the campaign right here on dumpshock.

I'd be happy to answer any specific questions on the campaign as well, but I'd rather take that discussion over tto the Missions forum instead of threadjacking this one. wink.gif
Butterblume
Just curious, is this only for the US or worldwide?
the_dunner
QUOTE (bibliophile20)
Now my only worry is having enough people sign up for each run to actually run them.

As long as you show up and TRY to run the event, it counts towards your membership requirements. We appreciate the effort. biggrin.gif
the_dunner
QUOTE (Butterblume)
Just curious, is this only for the US or worldwide?

It's worldwide. Off the top of my head, outside of the US I know we have Commandos in the UK, Italy, Spain, Germany, Canada, and Hungary. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few places.
bibliophile20
Ah, good; it's also nice because my con is at the same time as Mustard's, and I was worried about getting the events listed.

Alright, I'll go sign up smile.gif

(I'm just wondering if I qualify as an "expert"; I'm still a little rough around the edges when it comes to GMing...)
Black Jack Rackham
Well speaking as the newest (as of this moment) Commando, I can tell you, you don't have to be an expert. What the players are really interested in is having a good time. If you can do that, the rest is easy.
Mark
Cheops
Do you have to be sponsored by a store? I just got the phase 2 stuff and it seems to be the case. I'd be running events at my university club.
Xenith
QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 26 2007, 08:17 AM)
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Feb 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
do the games have to be official FanPro game modules?

Nope. The only requirement is that they use the latest version of game system's rules. (So, for Shadowrun - 4th edition.) Of course, since I'm the Missions Coordinator, it makes me happy when folks choose to run Missions. However, it's absolutely NOT a requirement.

QUOTE
Because I'm already running four one-shots at my school's con; would that qualify?


Those would absolutely qualify. cyber.gif

Are house rules allowed and does the commando need to report those rules?

Edit: Nevermind. Its explained in the pdf file. No House rules.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Cheops)
Do you have to be sponsored by a store? I just got the phase 2 stuff and it seems to be the case. I'd be running events at my university club.

If you want to use the form letter, then I'm afraid that yes, you'll need to have a store manager sign off on it. If you dont' have a local shop and you're only going to be running events at a public venue that doesn't sell games, then you'd need to submit a short scenario instead of using the form letter.

QUOTE
Are house rules allowed

Hopefully it makes sense to you why they're not. Essentially, as "official" representatives of FanPro, we need to promote the actual product that FanPro is publishing. If we allow house rules, then we're not actually promoting the product that we're selling.
knasser

This looks quite good fun. I notice that you don't have any commandos in the UK South West and I haven't been able to keep a group together very well recently due to everyone having too many commitments, so I'm up for this.

I'll need to speak to my local store and see if they'd do this, though.

-K.
bibliophile20
QUOTE (the_dunner)
QUOTE
Are house rules allowed

Hopefully it makes sense to you why they're not. Essentially, as "official" representatives of FanPro, we need to promote the actual product that FanPro is publishing. If we allow house rules, then we're not actually promoting the product that we're selling.

But when we're just playing games with our buddies/gaming club/etc, we can use house rules; it's just at the "official" events you can't use house rules--which makes sense, because then everyone's on the same page.
Kyoto Kid
...sounds interesting.

If say, I decide on running Missions scenarios at cons, am I responsible for providing the PCs or will there be Pregen character files provided with the particular Mission?
the_dunner
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
If say, I decide on running Missions scenarios at cons, am I responsible for providing the PCs or will there be Pregen character files provided with the particular Mission?

For Missions games, players are supposed to provide their own characters. So, they should either have a starting 400BP character, or they should have a character who has played in previous Missions adventures and has advanced from play in those games. If a player has neither, then they can just use a standard archetype out of the SR4 core rules.

One of the other Commandos created a printer-friendly version of the SR4 archetypes that's freely available for Commando download.
Kyoto Kid
...I see part of the aim as also being a means to introduce new people to SR4 (thus broadening Shadowrun's base). To this end, well designed Pregens are the best way to go. Most convention gaming tracks block out a specific amount of time for each game session which precludes generating new characters on the spot. I have worked on convention committees before, and can say that programme scheduling is often very tight and needs to be finalised months in advance for hotel and programme book layout purposes.

Rather than use the sample characters from the BBB I would then go with working up pregen PCs tailored for the particular Mission. Granted, it means more set up work, but I see this as the best way to get new people who haven't played Shadowrun before into what it is all about by allowing them to concentrate more on the run and having fun actually playing the game.

I am still very interested in this project, and will check out the Commando site tonight after I get home from work.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
Rather than use the sample characters from the BBB I would then go with working up pregen PCs tailored for the particular Mission.

That's certainly the prerogative of whoever's running the event. If you were running actual Shadowrun Missions Campaign games, they'd need to be 400BP starting characters, but that's a threadjack for the Missions Forum. smile.gif

The logic to using the BBB characters is that new players can look at the shiny pictures in the book and say, "I want that one." wink.gif
Trigger
I am all up for doing this, I just actually need a hardcopy of the BBB now...I have a PDF copy but I have been waiting for the fourth printing so I can actually get something I can holdin my hands and show to other people.
bibliophile20
Ok, I'm ready to sign up--there's just one issue:
Where can I get decent miniatures, much less painted ones, without having to part with arms, legs or firstborn children?
the_dunner
Minis aren't required for Commandos to run Shadowrun. (It's a requirement for Classic Battletech.)

Shadowrun Minis are available from Iron Wind Metals. They're not painted, but they've got the molds for nearly all of the old Ral Partha figures. Iron Wind Metals is also one of the organizations that offers discounts for Commandos in good standing.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Trigger)
I am all up for doing this, I just actually need a hardcopy of the BBB now...I have a PDF copy but I have been waiting for the fourth printing so I can actually get something I can holdin my hands and show to other people.

If you're seriously up for it, I'd recommend you go ahead and get your application in now. The 4th Printing should be available soon, and if your application is already in, you won't have to wait for everything to process before you get started.
Mistwalker
Out of curiosity,

On the application form, it asks about Classic Battletech, is that to differenciate it from the click based Battletech?
And will it change to Total Warfare Battletech?

As for the photos that are requested, if we fax in the application, can we email the photos to you?
Zolhex
Question you just added is the ability to fax in the aplication why no way to do the whole thing online or through email?
the_dunner
QUOTE (Mistwalker @ Feb 27 2007, 01:17 AM)
On the application form, it asks about Classic Battletech, is that to differenciate it from the click based Battletech?

That's correct.

QUOTE
And will it change to Total Warfare Battletech?


No. The name of the revised rules is "Classic Battletech: Total Warfare."

QUOTE
As for the photos that are requested, if we fax in the application, can we email the photos to you?

You're referring to the pictures of minis? If you'd like, that'd probably be the best bet. Remember, though, that minis aren't required for Shadowrun GMs.
QUOTE (Casazil)
Question you just added is the ability to fax in the aplication why no way to do the whole thing online or through email?

There are several reasons, but the "official" one is we need signatures from the applicant and game store owner.
Adam
QUOTE (Mistwalker)
On the application form, it asks about Classic Battletech, is that to differenciate it from the click based Battletech?
And will it change to Total Warfare Battletech?

The game line that Total Warfare belongs to is still called Classic BattleTech, and yes, it was renamed Classic BattleTech in 2001 to differentiate it from the MechWarrior game from WizKids.
Shadowrunner13
I just felt I should come in here from a Nationalistic standpoint.

Canada needs Shadowrun representation. There are only a few active Commandos in the entire country for Shadowrun and I'm the only one east of the Prairies (Next closest is in Alberta).

If you're out there and enjoy Shadowrun, get your GM to sign up (or sign up yourself) and spread the word. Canada has some really talented GMs out there... we need you to enlist. smile.gif

SR13
Kyoto Kid
QUOTE (the_dunner)
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 26 2007, 09:15 PM)
Rather than use the sample characters from the BBB I would then go with working up pregen PCs tailored for the particular Mission.

That's certainly the prerogative of whoever's running the event. If you were running actual Shadowrun Missions Campaign games, they'd need to be 400BP starting characters, but that's a threadjack for the Missions Forum. smile.gif

The logic to using the BBB characters is that new players can look at the shiny pictures in the book and say, "I want that one." wink.gif

...I can get pics made of the characters I generate if need be. Just that in my experience, sample characters (in all the editions) do not always work well on actual runs without having to teak them a lot anyway. Also it is fun (at least when I played in demos & tournaments) to let the player conjure up the image of the character they are playing.

No issue with the 400BP limit. Have way too much experience in the past dealing with overpowered & "over-munched" PCs so coming back down to basics will be in a way, "refreshing" especially since I am in control of the chargen.
Platinum
Some of the talent doesn't play sr4.

I would love to run sr3.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Platinum)
Some of the talent doesn't play sr4.

I would love to run sr3.

There's nothing stopping you from running it. However, the Commando program cannot support older editions of games. We've got to support what FanPro is selling.
Demerzel
I was reading the commandohq web site and noticed the FAQ indicates a 6 event per year minimum. Is the 3 event/year a change from the original that didn't get updated?
the_dunner
QUOTE (Demerzel)
I was reading the commandohq web site and noticed the FAQ indicates a 6 event per year minimum. Is the 3 event/year a change from the original that didn't get updated?

That's correct. It's a recent development, and the CommandoHQ web site hasn't been fully updated yet. However, the application download is correct.
Trigger
Just did the first part of the application, shoule have the rest done by this weekend.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Trigger)
Just did the first part of the application, shoule have the rest done by this weekend.

Terrific! biggrin.gif
bibliophile20
QUOTE (the_dunner)
QUOTE (Trigger @ Feb 28 2007, 10:29 PM)
Just did the first part of the application, shoule have the rest done by this weekend.

Terrific! biggrin.gif

I should have it done by the end of the weekend as well.

BTW, dunner, I just noticed: you're from Cleveland? Where? (my parents' house is two blocks from John Carrol U.)
Demerzel
That's good to know, I signed up on that website a few weeks ago, but the 6 events put me off a little. I wasn't sure what kind of commitment I was willing to make, but three I could probably manage.

How does it work if you're interested in both SR and CBT?
Zolhex
If I sign up and then don't run 3 or more in a year do I get kicked out or is it just that I can't get anything till sometime after i meet the 3 plus requirements?
the_dunner
QUOTE (bibliophile20)
I should have it done by the end of the weekend as well.


Outstanding!
QUOTE
BTW, dunner, I just noticed: you're from Cleveland?  Where? (my parents' house is two blocks from John Carrol U.)

I did my undergrad work at JCU, but I'm a west sider (Fairview Park).

QUOTE (Demerzel)
How does it work if you're interested in both SR and CBT?

You're welcome to run demos in either system, but you need to pick one that you're actually applying for as your primary. (And, if you happen to want to run The Dark Eye or Degenesis in the future, it'd certainly be appreciated.)

QUOTE (Casazil)
If I sign up and then don't run 3 or more in a year do I get kicked out or is it just that I can't get anything till sometime after i meet the 3 plus requirements?

We send the game police around to knock down your door and take all your Shadowrun materials. eek.gif

More seriously, if you don't meet minimum activity levels, then you won't receive much in the way of compensation. As far as getting kicked out goes -- that's handled as a judgment call on a case by case basis.
Mistwalker
My FLGS has agreed to let me use them as a Firebase, so should have everything FAXed before the weekend.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Mistwalker)
My FLGS has agreed to let me use them as a Firebase, so should have everything FAXed before the weekend.

Wondeful news, thank you!
Kyoto Kid
...my big thing is I do not have access to a fax outside of work (which has strict policies). Is there a way I can do everything by email or PM for I really do not want to pay an entity like Kinkos (evil, bad, just like Starbucks devil.gif) to get things set up?
the_dunner
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...my big thing is I do not have access to a fax outside of work (which has strict policies).  Is there a way I can do everything by email or PM for I really do not want to pay an entity like Kinkos (evil, bad, just like Starbucks devil.gif) to get things set up?

Unfortunately not. However, you can still use the good old USPS. I mean, I think I've heard rumors that Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason, but I'm still willing to let them have 39 cents from time to time. wink.gif If you're feeling extravagant, you can always drop another 60 cents and get delivery confirmation.
Demerzel
I heard they will be raising it soon to $0.42

Those darn freemasons...
StealthBanana
Got the first part of the app done. Midterms are this coming week, so I probably won't have the essay or sig from my FLGS manager until next weekend.

The good news is, the manager of the FLGS I go to is a good friend of mine and a huge Shadowrun fan. Turning the location into a Firebase is seriously going to make this guys day.

Any gamers in the Sunnyvale/San Jose area? South Bay Area, woooo.
the_dunner
QUOTE (StealthBanana)
Got the first part of the app done. Midterms are this coming week, so I probably won't have the essay or sig from my FLGS manager until next weekend.

The good news is, the manager of the FLGS I go to is a good friend of mine and a huge Shadowrun fan. Turning the location into a Firebase is seriously going to make this guys day.

That sounds perfect! cyber.gif

Thanks for the update.
TypeRyder
Hoi,

I just read through the application papers and have questions:

I would like to take Shadowrun as my primary Game System and will sometimes run The Dark Eye as well. If I circle both on the application form, do they both count to the 3 / 6 sessions per year? Or are the sessions per Game System (so 3 / 6 for Shadowrun and 3 / 6 for The Dark Eye)?

And another question: Just how "official" should the sessions be?
I mean, besides con sessions and sessions at the local game store, what elso will count as official? Will game sessions at our local Game Club count toward the limit?
the_dunner
QUOTE (TypeRyder)
I would like to take Shadowrun as my primary Game System and will sometimes run The Dark Eye as well. If I circle both on the application form, do they both count to the 3 / 6 sessions per year?

You can run any FanPro product to count up your quota of annual events. So, if you wanted to run 1 SR game, 1 TDE, and 1 CBT game that'd be perfectly acceptable.

QUOTE
besides con sessions and sessions at the local game store, what elso will count as official? Will game sessions at our local Game Club count toward the limit?

Cons and game stores are the primary focus. However, for other events, it depends upon how the events are set up. If your club is open to the public and the meetings are held at a public location (like a library or hotel meeting hall or, better yet, a game store) then it would count. If the meetings were held in a member's basement, then no, it wouldn't count.

Those sorts of issues are handled on a case by case basis. The central focus of the decision is based upon how the event can be promoted and how accessible the event is to new players.
TypeRyder
The Game Club meets at a public location and we regularly try to attract new players. It's open for the public so perhaps it's ok?

Good thing to know - I will send the 2nd part of my application to you as soon as possible *g*
I think that our local game store will like that as well and support me - I have to make a phone call smile.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Dumpshock Forums © 2001-2012