Would there be any interest in an SR3 run set in Ottawa, Ontario, UCAS?

Low-power, high roleplaying, moderate-to-high schtick, 2056.

I'm new here, so please cut me some slack =)

I'm interested, what build point level, etc. would you want?

I would actually be pretty interested... as long as my character can be from Quebec

I'd be interested, as I've now got a copy of Street Magic, so I'd love to try a mage..

I think he said SR3 D'ark.

Bloody hell! Responses!

It's Shadowrun 3 (not 4; I'm a snob^H traditionalist.)

Sicarius: I was actually thinking priority system plus edges and flaws.

Mister Juan: Oui, votre caractère peut issue a Quebec as long as you don't mind my rusting (and Parisian) high school French. Je ne parle pas Quebecois. Je ne suis down avec mes peeps de Quebec.

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When I say "low power" I mean "nothing with an availability above 5, justify anything illegal, no skill above 4 unless you can justify it in your background"

Ah well, if it's SR3 then I'll go dig out my copy of Rigger 3...I always thought drone riggers were an awesome concept, but I never really got to play one...and it's just not the same in SR4

Edit:

There is one thing, though...if it's being set in 2056, can someone give me a hand with figuring out what wouldn't be available as I'm not sure about certain bits of cyberware...

As the last SR3 game I was in died unceremoniously, this one sounds like fun. At first I was hestitant, but it looks on the up and up. I will browse through my pdf SR3 core books and try and come up with something interesting.

I'll think on a character and get something in.

One thing, though. Given all weapons, etc. are illegal without the right permits we're either all going to have to get (good) fake SINs, or you're going to have to define illegal a bit better.

I believe I'll start working on a decker.... this old school feel has me ver nostalgic for hours of number crunching

And here are a bunch of questions:
-Time-wise, when are we about in 2056?
-Do characters have to be in Ottawa at game start?
-Any house rules?

woah... game set in my own town? well, i normally steer clear of these things (usually don't have the time) but this is practically a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

definitely gonna have to apply for this one... i assume you want standard priority system for everything. not sure what i'm gonna play though, i've not done SR3 in a good long while...

i've never really done a non-magical character in SR3, so maybe i'll go for a samurai. although i have to admit, i am also interested in trying out a drone rigger (though i don't have rigger 3, i don't think... unless it's kicking around somewhere from a friend leaving it here...) heck, i'm not sure i can even find my SR3 stuff...

As for house rules--in general, "don't munchkin." I understand the joy, the exquisite ectasy of producing a character that rolls twenty dice when casting Powerbolt.

This is not that sort of game, though... at least not at the beginning. You're all reasonably law-abiding citizens in a part of the UCAS with much stricter gun laws*; take that into account.

*This is not to say that power levels may not be ratcheted up during the course of game. On the other hand, you do not want to be in an arms race with the Mounties... remember, they always get their (meta[hu])man...

1.) Edges and flaws. Run them by me, don't abuse them (you are reasonably average on all counts--roleplay accordingly) Do what seems appropriate; I tend to be very lenient if your background requires X.

2.) In all likelihood, you will receive a free contact pregame. This is to set up initial conditions correctly; these free contacts will be determined once all character sheets are in and will be determined based on the characters I get.

If you have questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

well, let's see how this one feels to you...

Moved to PMs.

Also, after some thought, this is my interpretation on the difference between Electronics, Electronics B/R, Computer, and Computer B/R:

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I see Electronics as the ability to look at a circuit diagram or a board, debug it, analyze it and generally understand the circuit, as well as how many data sheets you have under your belt/on your personal secretary and your ability to debug effectively.

I see Electronics B/R as being a measure of how handy you are with oscilloscope, wire ties and soldering iron. Thus, more dice => more successes => faster circuit soldering.

Consequently, most things that involve electronics will involve rolls of both Electronics and Electronics B/R. Failing the Electronics test means that you don't have the right datasheets on hand, can't figure out the pinout diagram and you're soldering things at random...

Someone with high Electronics B/R but low Electronics may be a hobbyist who solders or burns circuits in his spare time, but with little understanding of how or why the circuits work. As a result, he's fast, but has only limited understanding of what he's doing.

Someone with high Electronics but low Electronics B/R is likely a circuit designer or academic who has a strong understanding of what the circuit is supposed to do, but is slow with a soldering iron.

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Similarly, I see Computer as representing your ability to use a preprogrammed UI efficiently and quickly; i.e. this is important for deckers (the script kiddies of the Sixth World) because they're basically swapping utilities in and out of memory all of the time.

Computer B/R represents your ability to write a (correct and efficient) program from scratch and your understanding of algorithms, data structures, compilers and assembly; essentially, the fundamental workings of efficient programs.

Someone with high Computer but low Computer B/R can use their operating system of choice (and likely does so every day) and knows the best sites for pr0n on the Inter...Matrix.

Someone with high Computer B/R but low Computer is likely a theory girl (or boy), who believes that computers are things with an infinite length of tape and a doohickey that moves back and forth on them. They majored in math in college, not computer science.

Well, I've got a rough concept, but as it takes me forever to actually finalise anything, it's currently lacking in things like a name.

Anyway, my character's a drone rigger that was originally in a fast track/experimental program, so he got all his 'ware pretty quickly, but burned out after a while...or screwed up so royally they threw him out, not quite sure yet...anyway, after that he drifted aroun a little and ended up as a cameraman at a small local trid station.

Speaking of which, Jaid, is there a TV station in your area that's really underfunded and really small? If so, I'll use that instead of making one up.

hmmm... TV station that's small and underfunded? well, i would hazard a guess that at least one of the 3 french stations doesn't have an awful lot of budget, and also that whatever channel 32 is called (don't know, never watch... usually it's religious stuff AFAICT) is probably really low budget.

hmmm... other than that, you've got CBC (national, probably gone) CTV (again, national) cityTV (based out of Toronto, no good). i remember a while back there was RO, but i have no idea if they're even still around or what RO stood for. they might be a good choice if you want english, since i think the french stations are actually based out of quebec...

[edit] almost forgot CJOH (not sure if they're local or not... can't remember what CJOH stands for) and Global. Global is actually a part of Fox, i think so i'm gonna say that's not local, or terribly underfunded.

if you want to go the cable or satellite route, i remember channel 22 on rogers cable was community TV or something like that, and just about any show on that channel was lucky to have a budget at all pretty much about the most impressive show on the channel would have been footage of the house of commons, but basically *anyone* could get onto that channel i think. [/edit]

hey D'Ark, my character submission was a wet behind the ears trid journalist. are we reading each others minds or what? hehe.

I don't think the concepts conflict, more like accentuate each other.

a few quick questions relating to gear. now, on the one hand, you've said no gear with avail higher than 5. on the other hand, i think there's a few things you probably didn't intend to include in that (and some i am just hoping). i am looking, in particular, at the following:


Avail 6:
laser sight
linguasofts (you mentioned the possibility of chipping french... little did you know )
activesofts (depending, of course. activesoft for heavy weapons is out i assume, but activesoft for something like driving/fixing a car, etc would be acceptable i hope?)
Pressure regulator for respirator (allows underwater use)
Cyberear Select Sound Filters
Cyberear Recorders
Cyberware Filtration systems (blood in particular, useful for dealing with critter toxins)

Avail 8:
the ford-canada bison (page 309) (useful for wilderness trips, potentially a business vehicle...)

additionally, none of the melee weapons (with the exception of the cyber handblade) can have permits. i was hoping to be able to get a permit for a stun baton...

well, as far as camera/lighting drones, i would actually recommend LTA vehicles or ground vehicles.

rotor drones could maybe work as well, though you'd probably need something like the select sound filter to remove the sound of the rotor, but i think vector thrust drones are out as far as use near anyone who's gonna be talking is concerned...

of course, if you're not concerned about the sound, than all of the above could work

and now i have to try and figure out a new way to live capture critters, since my stun baton plan isn't going to work...

and on closer inspection, the cyberear recording unit is actually avail. 8 and illegal... so i guess i'll just forget about that

What about something traditional, like a netgun?

If there's still room in your campaign, I'd like to cook up a bodyguard - looking for a way into the shadows - archetype. As a Canadian, I'm tickled pink at the prospect of making a game up in my neck of the woods.

I'll dust off my SR3 books and have a character sketched up for you by the week's end.

I'm not certain the expert chipjack would qualify, since thats from man and machine, and may be considered a cybertech advancement which appeared after 2056.

not sure if it's going to be a concern or not anyways... i've taken a look, and wow, your essence can run out quick i've still got a desparation grab for some more essence if necessary (and in hindsight, boosted reflexes seems much more probable than wired for the character anyways), but to be honest, this guy is already packing more 'ware (in terms of value) than i really feel the background justifies... i think i may have to cut back for the final draft. still, some of it would have been added afterwards...

Net guns (Cannon Companion, page 31):

Still working on a decker.
Background and sheet soon!

the problem with the stun baton is not that i don't have access to rules for one. the problem is that legality line. 5-C is completely and utterly different from 5P-C, which is what would make me consider using it. i mean, yeah, if he was a shadowrunner, fine... but he's not a shadowrunner. legality means something beyond just what happens if he gets caught.

the net gun does intrigue me though... i may have to consider swapping out rifles skill.

or, perhaps there's a rock salt loaded shotgun round? i understand they're quite effective at stunning stuff, but aren't terribly likely to be fatal... i can't remember ever seeing one, but that doesn't mean it won't exist.

(netguns are fine for in the open, but i have to worry about digging them out of their dens as well).

Well, there are two shotgun rounds that might work for what you're thinking of.

First off you've got Stun Shells:

Stun Shells

Loaded with tiny rubber balls as opposed to buckshot, these rounds are designed to stun rather than kill. Work the same way as standard shot shells but inflict Stun damage. The Power of the attack is reduced twice by the Impact armour rating, but not by Ballistic armour.

Conceal - 8

Damage - (As weapon) Stun

Weight - .5

Avail - 3/12hrs

Cost - 25:nuyen:

St. Index - 1

Legal. - As weapon

You've also got Bola rounds as a possible alternative to a netgun...

So, at this point we're waiting on Dranem and Mr. Juan's sheets.

If you could get those in quickly that would be great; I'd like to start Monday if at all possible.

I should have you a sheet by Friday night...

Ok, sorry I got it done so late, but I have a character file made up for you, what format would you like it in? The SRCG makes nice xml files if you want me to send that to you.. otherwise I can copy/paste the info into text format and PM it to you.

Text is best, but XML is also acceptable.

Any space left? I see you're just starting at the moment, so thought I might be able to get in if I'm quick!

Granite--Sure. You're not the only person who's expressed interest, so I'll work you and the other person in in an upcoming scene. Give me a character ASAP, same restrictions, backstory, etc.

Sorry about the delay--had trouble logging on last night. New posts should be up after work today.

Ok, character is drawn up, Mark Adams.



If there's any problems, let me know. Where should I send the details to?