Full Version: Oh the HORRORS of it all!
| QUOTE (Demonseed Elite) |
| It's an exaggeration to say that a space station, by its own nature, will go from being rated as a Mana Void to a Mana Ebb. In fact, in most cases, it won't. Space is on the deep mana void end of the scale; it takes considerable effort to get it even to a minor void or ebb status. The Eden laboratory on the Ares Daedalus station is one very rare example of this effort, and it has not yet been said where exactly Eden sits on the scale. |
I agree with your point that it takes considerable effort to raise space's Mana Void into an Ebb. Where we appearently disagree is what it would take to make a space station sustainable for human life throughout the Scourge.
Although in a post Scourge setting, I can see the racial tensions between the 'pure' humans that have lived and evolved for generations aboard a ring of stations and the rest of meta-humanity, coupled with a second Goblinazation as the spacers return to Earth and experiance mana for the first time as being a neat plot-hook.
Hmm, I might just have to change my mind about Space Station Kaers, the idea has its possiblities provided people don't start expecting me to believe that they can even begin to tip the odds in meta-humanity's favor against the Horrors.
| QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) |
| The likelihood that the lifeform it belonged to developed on mars the same way as on earth and is the only remnant of an ecosystem is... nil. |
Of course, we don't actually know whether the skeleton was the "only remnant" ever found, just that it was the "only remnant" ever found by that probe.
Think about this way, how many fossils would an alien probe be likely to find if they landed a probe on the surface of a long dead Earth in what we now call Death Valley?
If earth would have has about as much atmosphere and tectonic activity as mars... quite some. It's a reservation.
Hmm, valid point, although I was assuming that in the past as a live planet Mars also had an atmo, plate movements, ect...
| QUOTE (Ravor) |
| Hmm, valid point, although I was assuming that in the past as a live planet Mars also had an atmo, plate movements, ect... |
it had an atmosphere, but not plate techtonics--that's why Mt. Olympus is as big as it is (because the crust didn't move over the hot spot), and why the Valles Marinaris exists--as the crust shrunk over the still warm interior, the crust literally cracked.
| QUOTE (guy-jin) |
| I'm imagining a setting a few thousand years in Shadowrun's future; the horrors came back, but much of humanity fled to mars, terraforming it to something hospitable. the horrors kept coming, but they were more managable, having been weakened by the long trip through space. Now, the horrors have stopped coming, and mankind is sending their first expeditions back to their former homeland... |
Oh, you mean Battletech?
For someone who's only real explosure to Battletech was the Mechwarrior computer game, are there any actual tie-ins to Shadowrun/Earthdawn in the rpg?
| QUOTE (Ravor @ Mar 16 2007, 09:42 AM) |
| For someone who's only real explosure to Battletech was the Mechwarrior computer game, are there any actual tie-ins to Shadowrun/Earthdawn in the rpg? |
Aside from easter eggs, I'm pretty sure there are absolutely no tie-ins to SR/ED in Battletech.
@ Bibliophile
We think Mars had Plate tectonics once. Once the core cooled and solidified, they stopped tho. The reason Olympus Mons is possible is that the core is solid. A molten core would have allowed the mountain to collapse into the mantle(area under the crust). At least, thats what I thought.
We think Mars had Plate tectonics once. Once the core cooled and solidified, they stopped tho. The reason Olympus Mons is possible is that the core is solid. A molten core would have allowed the mountain to collapse into the mantle(area under the crust). At least, thats what I thought.
| QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) |
| @ Bibliophile We think Mars had Plate tectonics once. Once the core cooled and solidified, they stopped tho. The reason Olympus Mons is possible is that the core is solid. A molten core would have allowed the mountain to collapse into the mantle(area under the crust). At least, thats what I thought. |
Nope; the reason that Olympus Mons can exist on the crust like that is because the crust is thicker than it is on Earth (and let's not forget the lower gravity) because Mars didn't retain heat as well as the Earth did, due to it's smaller size. However, that being said, I think you are vastly underestimating how *much* heat a planet has inside it--and a thick crust like Mars' is like an insulating blanket.
And by the "core is solid" I'm assuming that you mean that the mantle is solid--planetary cores take billions of years to cool, and Mars' core is still liquid--although it is colder than Earth's by a significant margin (less radioactive isotopes keeping it warm and all that)
Besides, there's a very simple logical fallacy in your argument--if the only reason that the volcano could be supported was because the interior was solid--and therefore cooled--where did the magma to build the volcano come from? If the interior is solid, then you have no magma to build a volcano, ergo, no volcano.
| QUOTE (hyzmarca) |
| One particular dragon who encountered a Horror early in the 4th World mana cycle wrote the original books of Harrow at the Horror's request. He did so by cutting off his own skin and using it as parchment, using his own blood as ink, and probably using his own sinew to bind the damned things. |
It was a dragon, are you sure? Can you give a page reference for that?
Yeah, I'm interested too. As far as I knew there was no record of where the Books had come from or who made them. There is every possibility that I'm just missing a book though. My ED collection definetly needs some beefing up.
Heh, I'm pretty sure the I didn't miss a book
But I do remember that an elf wrote the whole Books of Harrow... or did he just re-discover them?
But I do remember that an elf wrote the whole Books of Harrow... or did he just re-discover them?
Excuse me, it was the Book of Scales not the Books of Harrow. The two are similar but distinct tomes of Horror Lore.
| QUOTE (Grinder) |
| Heh, I'm pretty sure the I didn't miss a book But I do remember that an elf wrote the whole Books of Harrow... or did he just re-discover them? |
Rub it in.
Elianer Messias (an elf from Wyrm Wood, Grandfather of Thera, etc) discovered them . To my knowledge, their origins has never been discussed/released.
Well, that lets room for many interesting speculations.
Speculation is just that and no more.
(been wanting to use that thing for ever
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