Neonsamurai
Nov 21 2006, 11:25 AM
Is there any spirit with the Endowment power ( SM p.99 ) ?
I haven't found any.
Konsaki
Nov 21 2006, 11:35 AM
I'm pretty sure they have Bioware for increased bust size.
Hmm... looks like none of the new spirits have that ability, so it makes me think that the GM can allow it, if he wants, on any spirit.
hyzmarca
Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM
Great Form Guardian and Great Form Task.
Mistwalker
Nov 21 2006, 12:06 PM
You need the metamagic technique called "Invoking" to be able to summon greater form spirits, and the only two with the endowment power, are, as Hyzmarca said, guadian and task.
Neonsamurai
Nov 21 2006, 12:27 PM
thx
toturi
Nov 21 2006, 12:34 PM
Or an ally spirit summnoned by a mage that can invoke Guardian or Task Spirits.
Ranneko
Nov 21 2006, 12:42 PM
No, you cannot give an ally spirit great form powers, you can only give them powers from the basic set of spirits you can summon.
toturi
Nov 21 2006, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (Ranneko @ Nov 21 2006, 08:42 PM) |
No, you cannot give an ally spirit great form powers, you can only give them powers from the basic set of spirits you can summon. |
QUOTE |
The initiate may give the ally extra powers available to spirits his tradition can conjure at a cost of 5 Karma each. |
Is a great form plant spirit not of a spirit type that an initiated Invoking druid can conjure? Although I can see how you can come to the conclusion that a Invoker mage cannot give his ally spirit the powers of great form spirits he can conjure, I can also see how a GM can rule that an Invoker mage can give his ally spirit great form powers.
A great form plant spirit is available to a druid once he has learnt Invoking just like all other Invokers of his tradition. If the great forms spirits are not part of your tradition, you cannot summon them even if you know Invoking.
Da9iel
Nov 21 2006, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (Synner @ Aug 16 2006 07:30 AM) |
QUOTE | [*] Ally Spirit powers are chosen from any powers available to spirits the initiate may conjure. If the initiate knows Invoking metamagic, are the powers available to Great Form spirts available to be chosen as Ally Spirit powers? |
No. Great forms are not part of the spirit types a tradition can conjure, they are enhanced forms of the basic spirit types. (ie. “read spirits his tradition can conjure” as “basic spirit types his tradition can conjure”).
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toturi
Nov 21 2006, 04:16 PM
Ah, pwned by the writers again.
FrankTrollman
Nov 21 2006, 07:31 PM
QUOTE |
Is a great form plant spirit not of a spirit type that an initiated Invoking druid can conjure? |
Heck no. Invoking is a metamagical technique which adds powers to an already existing spirit. Allies can only pick up powers that your spirits come with. If we opened up allies to getting any power your spirits could potentially get when other techniques were used upon them, we'd have to open it up to every single power - even Twist Fate.
See, just as you could learn Invoking and then Invoke one of your spirits up to greatform status and pick up a snazzy power, another spirit could Inhabit a great dragon and get a good merging result and have all the dragon's power as its own and thenuse Endowment on your spirit to cause it to gain such powers.
How many layers of power stealing do you want to go? The correct, by the book answer is "zero".
-Frank
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