synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 01:00 AM
London, capital of a once glorious empire, one of the worlds greatest cities
2072 has broken and rebuilt London several times
The megacorps have arrived , but they are a lot tighter under the Governments thumb, the Royal family still stand, the Tories and Labour still fight out across the hustings, and the millions of Londoners go about there daily lives
Your recruited as shadowrunners from the British Military and Intellgence services to act in a totally unofficial capacity.
The Home Office is concerned with the nature of the corporations activties, and you are to pose as a unit of shadowrunners, totally independant conducting 'Runs' to which you have immunity from prosecution (long term) , but still risking it every day
Looking character concepts at the moment, not need to be archetypes, and its a 450 BP game.
thanks
Kerenshara
Nov 4 2009, 01:07 AM
I'm... curious...
Sorta been thinking about playing a brit fomori magician of some sort...
You'd be ammused just what kind of oddballs the Brits have squirreled away in the modern equivalent of Bletchley Park.
Any more details? I'm cogitating now on possibilities...
Ol' Scratch
Nov 4 2009, 01:26 AM
Damn. This game is right up my alley, but I don't know if I have the time to develop a character just yet. Can you give an outline for about how long you plan on keeping recruiting open? If it's long enough I may be throw up a concept or two for consideration, but I don't want to waste anyone's time if you want to get things rolling as soon as you can. Though if I did find the time, I'd probably go with an ork street sammy with a background you'd think was lifted out of a flick like Snatch or Two Smoking Barrels.
Generic_PC
Nov 4 2009, 01:41 AM
This looks like a nice concept.
I'd be looking at a combat medic, if I played. High ranks in the Biotech skill group and maybe some firearms.
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 02:46 AM
QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Nov 4 2009, 01:26 AM)

Damn. This game is right up my alley, but I don't know if I have the time to develop a character just yet. Can you give an outline for about how long you plan on keeping recruiting open? If it's long enough I may be throw up a concept or two for consideration, but I don't want to waste anyone's time if you want to get things rolling as soon as you can. Though if I did find the time, I'd probably go with an ork street sammy with a background you'd think was lifted out of a flick like Snatch or Two Smoking Barrels.
as long as the background involved some UK military time thats fine, looking for around a week to get concepts then stats. more interested in backgrounds and stuff first
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 02:46 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 4 2009, 01:41 AM)

This looks like a nice concept.
I'd be looking at a combat medic, if I played. High ranks in the Biotech skill group and maybe some firearms.
fine by me
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 02:48 AM
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Nov 4 2009, 01:07 AM)

I'm... curious...
Sorta been thinking about playing a brit fomori magician of some sort...
You'd be ammused just what kind of oddballs the Brits have squirreled away in the modern equivalent of Bletchley Park.
Any more details? I'm cogitating now on possibilities...
no more details atm. the basis of the campaign is there , fomori are cool sounding enough , and Bletchley is a GREAT idea btw.
DigitalOYABUN
Nov 4 2009, 02:52 AM
I have a Mystic Adept, but not sure he'd have been recruited by the military or intel agents. Built off the 'orientalist', obviously Chaos magic tradition with lots of Islamic and Asian flavor thrown in.
or just a bully boy Ganger type if muscle is needed
Ol' Scratch
Nov 4 2009, 04:30 AM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 3 2009, 08:46 PM)

as long as the background involved some UK military time thats fine, looking for around a week to get concepts then stats. more interested in backgrounds and stuff first
A week? I think I can put something together by then. And yeah, I was assuming he was in the military for a bit at least, but his early background was criminal based. Which is what lead him to the military, in fact. The basic idea is that he may have been a Special Forces type, or at least top-end infantry. He probably got discharged (honorably or dishonorably; not sure just yet), which is exactly why they'd be looking to recruit him for this sort of work. Definitely a cigar-smoking, heavily cybered ork, though.
When I find the time in the next couple of days I'll refine the idea for you. I'm sorry it's so shoddy right now. I'm trying not to lose focus on another project I'm working on.
Generic_PC
Nov 4 2009, 05:19 AM
My Medic is remarkably similar. Probably Scottish, he signed up to be a combat medic and was honourably discharged when he manifested a psychological disorder. (Probably Bi-polarity, but we'll see.)
Maybe not quite as heavily cybered though. Looking at an Ogre, I think.
Alternately, I was looking at an Indian Harumen. As a house robber in the fractured indian nations, he'd had to make a quick escape, and ended up in the much more profitable britian. We'll see where it goes from there, but I can't decide which I'd prefer playing.
tarbrush
Nov 4 2009, 09:10 AM
Oooh, oooh, me me, pick me! I'm english, I live just outside London, it'd be really cool to play in London. I have no idea what I'd play yet, but I'll work something up asap.
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 4 2009, 05:19 AM)

My Medic is remarkably similar. Probably Scottish, he signed up to be a combat medic and was honourably discharged when he manifested a psychological disorder. (Probably Bi-polarity, but we'll see.)
Maybe not quite as heavily cybered though. Looking at an Ogre, I think.
Alternately, I was looking at an Indian Harumen. As a house robber in the fractured indian nations, he'd had to make a quick escape, and ended up in the much more profitable britian. We'll see where it goes from there, but I can't decide which I'd prefer playing.
well the second one wouldnt get through customs let alone onto a government secret ops team.
the premise is that your all british natives. or at least from the commonwealth (so maybe Canadian)
Thanee
Nov 4 2009, 11:04 AM
Hmm... sounds interesting.

I like combat-capable B&E specialists (Electronics and Infiltration), and that would probably be quite fitting here (probably with SAS background, if they still exist in 2072).
I suppose the super elite units (like the 22 SAS or equivalent) still do not take women in their ranks (though maybe with advances in bio- and cybernetics, that might be different), therefore I was thinking about a female soldier that tried to get in there (but failed for obvious reasons), but ended up with "only" the reserve regiment (i.e. 23 SAS). There she has shown such high talent and dedication, that she was recruited for the Government program.
Bye
Thanee
BobRoberts
Nov 4 2009, 11:24 AM
Another brit here - also just outside London.

Sounds like a really fun game!
Got a couple of concepts rattling around.
A sneaky little techead. Surveilance, micro drones and hacking. Background would be a former muckraking journalist/PI (News of The World!) who messed with the wrong person. Ended up in a lot of trouble and got pushed into working for MI5... which he really enjoys - great toys, even better muck to rake and it's even public service. Thinking greasy, crumpled and disreputable looking.
Muscle, if it's needed. Thinking territorial SAS - bodyguarding, chaffeur, able to kill with any weapon they can pick up. Think I'd play this character as a posh 'old school tie' type - have a public school education, some random society contacts and a decent gentlemans club. Thinking the kind of guys you see arrested trying to topple small african governments.

They both amuse me. Think the first one would be fun, but my knowledge of 4th edition hacking is a bit limited and might let me down.
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (BobRoberts @ Nov 4 2009, 11:24 AM)

Another brit here - also just outside London.

Got a couple of concepts rattling around.
Muscle, if it's needed. Thinking territorial SAS - bodyguarding, chaffeur, able to kill with any weapon they can pick up. Think I'd play this character as a posh 'old school tie' type - have a public school education, some random society contacts and a decent gentlemans club. Thinking the kind of guys you see arrested trying to topple small african governments.

LOL
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 05:14 PM
FYI
SRoG
"this is a department of MI9 , a subsection of MI5 , dealing with internal national security at home from threats foreign and domestic.
Recruiting from elite ops . British Intel , UK police forces and from a lesser extent offering deals to convicted Criminals with exceptional skills.
The SRoG is tasked to investigate corporate and public activities and conduct aggressive operations to garner Intel on schemes that could harm national security interests.
SRoG team 7 operates as a 'shadow runners' group based in East London , it poses as a unit that provides services to those who can pay and whilst conducting the 'job' is also passing on relevant Intel to there handlers, and from time to time they will be targeted at those deemed to pose a threat to deal with them in the most expeditious manner"
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Nov 4 2009, 06:27 PM
Id totally be interested in this concept if youll have another bod.. err player

.
Im thinking about a few concepts.
1. Ex MI5 spook specializing in logistics (insides and outs of the money markets and tracking expenditures/forging or obtaining washed funds). He's mainly a face type guy but being magical hes semi decent at not getting caught when on site. This guy used to be a part of MI5 that helped track fugitives and terrorist threats. Has lots of financial contacts both black and white (anything in between as well) that owe him. Very good at obtaining the id's safe houses and goods etc that make a real team tick (and look real).
2. Ex SAS member specializing in structural engineering (read demo), decent hand with guns, but more posh than normal. This could also become a dedicated assasin (low impact kinetic engagement).
I have a few more but will wait to see how these tickle your fancy.
Kerenshara
Nov 4 2009, 06:39 PM
And of course, we don't exist; Should knowledge of our activities become known, any knowledge of us shall be disavowed. Her Magesty's Government seeks its own form of "Deniable Asset", which is understandable. Should we encounter military or law enforcement personnel in the course of our actions, are we under any sort of Rules of Engagement, and will there be any means of extracting us from incarceration should such an unhappy event occur?
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Nov 4 2009, 06:39 PM)

And of course, we don't exist; Should knowledge of our activities become known, any knowledge of us shall be disavowed. Her Magesty's Government seeks its own form of "Deniable Asset", which is understandable. Should we encounter military or law enforcement personnel in the course of our actions, are we under any sort of Rules of Engagement, and will there be any means of extracting us from incarceration should such an unhappy event occur?
Rules of Engagement
dont get caught
will there be any means of extracting us from incarceration
dont get caught
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM
edited woops didnt see ya post that

Sinthetik what do you think of my character concepts? sound ok or should i dig something else up?
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 07:01 PM
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaarling there wonderfull
tbh I will be collating them tommorrow , but there ok
Kerenshara
Nov 4 2009, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 4 2009, 01:48 PM)

Rules of Engagement
dont get caught
will there be any means of extracting us from incarceration
dont get caught
So the Home Office is ok with us gunning down civil servants in the course of our assignment should that become necessary... I just want to make certain I understand.
synthetik
Nov 4 2009, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Nov 4 2009, 07:44 PM)

So the Home Office is ok with us gunning down civil servants in the course of our assignment should that become necessary... I just want to make certain I understand.
they may be, but the police and the courts might not
no d notices on this run chummer
Generic_PC
Nov 4 2009, 11:17 PM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 4 2009, 02:59 AM)

the premise is that your all british natives. or at least from the commonwealth (so maybe Canadian)
India is part of the British Commonwealth...
Despite that, I prefer my medic more. I'll start brainstorming a simple story.
synthetik
Nov 5 2009, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 4 2009, 11:17 PM)

India is part of the British Commonwealth...
Despite that, I prefer my medic more. I'll start brainstorming a simple story.
ahhh sorry , my bad , thought you meant Nan Indian , not Asian Indians (which would be very welcome in the game as they are big part of the eastend)
Kerenshara
Nov 5 2009, 01:28 AM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 4 2009, 03:13 PM)

they may be, but the police and the courts might not
no d notices on this run chummer
Ah, the 11th Commandment: "Thall shalt not get caught!"
Glad we're sticking to good old Anglican religious principles.
Generic_PC
Nov 5 2009, 01:50 AM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 4 2009, 06:26 PM)

ahhh sorry , my bad , thought you meant Nan Indian , not Asian Indians (which would be very welcome in the game as they are big part of the eastend)
Hmm. This is good. The more I looked into my character, the more I realized how it pidgeonholed me, the less I wanted to actually play it.
The monkey-man (heh.) would be an infiltrator, investigator and a close-combat-lite.
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Nov 5 2009, 01:51 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 4 2009, 05:50 PM)

Hmm. This is good. The more I looked into my character, the more I realized how it pidgeonholed me, the less I wanted to actually play it.
The monkey-man (heh.) would be an infiltrator, investigator and a close-combat-lite.
That could be your in right there. I play the logistics/face guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows you. Segue your entrance into the group?
Generic_PC
Nov 5 2009, 02:19 AM
Potentially. Alternately, Monkeyman could have been picked up by MI6!
I dunno. I'm fuzzy on how to become part of a deniable asset in britian in 2070.
synthetik
Nov 5 2009, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 5 2009, 02:19 AM)

Potentially. Alternately, Monkeyman could have been picked up by MI6!
I dunno. I'm fuzzy on how to become part of a deniable asset in britian in 2070.
you have been asked to volunteer, given a jacket , possibly some equipment scrounged by your mates and given a flat on the council may be
there you go
remmus
Nov 6 2009, 01:13 AM
*chuckles* funny thing is I have working on a British Spy/Face elf character with Secret Service background for another game, but since I end up in that games waiting list I might take a crack at this one instead, if your still looking of course.
synthetik
Nov 6 2009, 08:56 AM
ok
so we have some ideas now
if you PM with your final character ideals, a real life name for the chummer and a callsign, that would be fantastic
Thanks
Syn
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Nov 6 2009, 03:31 PM
do you want full on character sheets at this time or just the write ups and prelims for our 21/50 questions?
remmus
Nov 6 2009, 03:36 PM
QUOTE (onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk @ Nov 6 2009, 04:31 PM)

do you want full on character sheets at this time or just the write ups and prelims for our 21/50 questions?
I just gave him character name, Call name and a few lines of my character concept and it was enough for him to add me to the pool of potential players.
Xahn Borealis
Nov 6 2009, 08:50 PM
Any room for one more? I'm a Brit and I'd like to do a police sniper who's also a mage that specialises in looking for
targets things. Uses Detection spells, Astral Perception, and the like. Would the UK police be like to use Awakened chaps? I think I'd play him like Danny Dyer, and keep calling Mr Johnson 'Guv'
synthetik
Nov 6 2009, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Nov 6 2009, 08:50 PM)

Any room for one more? I think I'd play him like Danny Dyer, and keep calling Mr Johnson 'Guv'
you do that sunbeam and I will target you with every resource that ares, aztech , fuchi , militech and arasaka (yes even cross corps from another game system) have in there blackest of darkest blackop magical research departments and then hand you over to syrian intelligence, GOTTIT!
remmus
Nov 6 2009, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 6 2009, 11:35 PM)

you do that sunbeam and I will target you with every resource that ares, aztech , fuchi , militech and arasaka (yes even cross corps from another game system) have in there blackest of darkest blackop magical research departments and then hand you over to syrian intelligence, GOTTIT!
so I assume that means you won´t approve my character having a fancy for eel pie?
Generic_PC
Nov 6 2009, 11:07 PM
Well... I was planning on doing all my roleplaying with a scottish brogue, so, if the cockney will annoy you...
Do you allow Specializations in skills taken as groups? (For instance: I want to specialize in Urban infiltration. Can I take the Stealth group and still spec.?)
synthetik
Nov 6 2009, 11:28 PM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 6 2009, 11:07 PM)

Well... I was planning on doing all my roleplaying with a scottish brogue, so, if the cockney will annoy you...
Do you allow Specializations in skills taken as groups? (For instance: I want to specialize in Urban infiltration. Can I take the Stealth group and still spec.?)
no its not the scottish brogue that would annoy me, its just DANNY fecking DYER! cant stand the geezer (and basically I am from just up the road from him , about a mile ) and if he said tasty once I would have physically tracked him IRL and drekked his choomba butt...
synthetik
Nov 6 2009, 11:32 PM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 6 2009, 11:07 PM)

Do you allow Specializations in skills taken as groups? (For instance: I want to specialize in Urban infiltration. Can I take the Stealth group and still spec.?)
no, specs can be taken on individual skills , not groups
straight rules apart from 450bp
synthetik
Nov 6 2009, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (remmus @ Nov 6 2009, 11:06 PM)

so I assume that means you won´t approve my character having a fancy for eel pie?
thats a 5bp quality , natural immunity chummer
nah , go for the character as a 'ender , least I will know how your supposed to sound, not like the septics with there chim chimminie cheroo cobblers
Ol' Scratch
Nov 6 2009, 11:34 PM
I think he's asking if you allow people to split Skill Groups up at character creation. It's a pretty common house rule. Using his example, he basically wants to buy the Stealth Group to, say, 3, then grab Infiltration (Urban) 3, which in turn would split the group up to its component skills. Which is what happens after character creation if you want to do the same thing, too.
Generic_PC
Nov 6 2009, 11:50 PM
Pretty much. Its not really important, but it'll save me some BP if you let me split it up. And we all know, BP is the one true god in SR.
Another question: Can Gymnastics replace Dodge? Gymnastics does have a dodging as a specialization...
synthetik
Nov 7 2009, 12:14 AM
go with published rules as not all play with house rules .
thanks
Generic_PC
Nov 7 2009, 12:33 AM
Gymnastics actually can replace dodge for defense, but only during a Full Defense, I believe.
synthetik
Nov 7 2009, 12:36 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 7 2009, 12:33 AM)

Gymnastics actually can replace dodge for defense, but only during a Full Defense, I believe.
Im not sure your point
remmus
Nov 7 2009, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (synthetik @ Nov 7 2009, 01:36 AM)

Im not sure your point
basicly he is trying to say if he could use Gymnastics in place of dodge when rolling defence so her can save some BP by not having to buy the dodge skill itself.
Generic_PC
Nov 7 2009, 12:43 AM
Nah. It's not important. Honestly, it was more for clarification than anything else, since Ogres are rarely gymnasts.
Ol' Scratch
Nov 7 2009, 01:19 AM
I believe the only time you can't use Gymnastics in place of Dodge is when using Full Defense in Melee.. but
only when you're using the Dodge + Dodge + Reaction option. If you're using the Weapon Skill + Dodge + Reaction option for it, you can use Gymnastics then. So, yes, you can replace Dodge with Gymnastics for all intents and purposes. The only time it's not a good idea is if you lack a melee Weapon Skill.
Assuming my memory of said rules hold up.
remmus
Nov 7 2009, 01:21 AM
QUOTE (Generic_PC @ Nov 7 2009, 01:43 AM)

Nah. It's not important. Honestly, it was more for clarification than anything else, since Ogres are rarely gymnasts.
*thinks of a Ogre in a tight gymnasts suit and shudders*
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