Or, rather, they have, and thus they're more "beautiful". And thus, "too attractive to be elves/trolls". (Alnd elves are supposed to be attractive... it's Orcs and Trolls that are oogly).

Also, I'd have to say that any model worth her salt in 2070 will have had some sort of (re)constructive surgery.

yea, i ment orcs, i donno why i typed "eleves" (hehe damn typos too boot).

ofcourse, this brings us to a spin off of the original question, of if they use humans even for orc/troll clothing... are we even still USING models? with the matrix, VR, and icons what they are, would it not be cheaper to "produce" the model from scratch, instead of using a real person and modifying them to be what we want?

The female Klingons in Next Generation were kinda hot in a wierd way. Why not orks and trolls?

Actual metahuman models would still be in use in 2070 because modeling is about glamor and scandal, and a sim person doesn't break off engagements, crack up their car or go sunbathing topless.

The great thing about Klingon women is that dating is so simple. There are no awkward invitations for coffee, no sitting through boring plays and no fancy diners that cost a hundred bucks and taste like curried dog poop. If you see a Klingon women that you like, you just backhand her hard enough to knock her off of her feet. Then, she backhands you off of your feet; if you remain conscious and don't require hospitalization, then it's on.

If only human dating could be that simple.

But yeah, orks and trolls are very sexy. But, if you want to please a Troll woman then you must be a skilled horn-licker.

There's also the "uncanny valley" effect: when you try to create virtual humans, if you want to take a realistic approach, you have to be realistic up to the slightest details or people will be put off by what they're seeing. Not only the appearance but also the movements and reactions of the virtual human must be exactly those of a real human. If they don't, the virtual model will just look creepy.

I've experienced this while morphing human faces into metahuman faces for my webcomic: before applying the filters, even if I was careful to make it look "realistic", it didn't feel right: I knew I wasn't watching a real picture even if I couldn't point out the details which gave it away.

sexy hot.

Okay. As stated in the beginning, it was my intention to pull these together into some sort of "real" magazine. I'm pretty sure I've asked for permission from everyone so I hope the below is fine. It is an initial draft. I would like to finish it, but I'm still waiting for completed work from people.

So I thought if I post the initial draft, it might stimulate a little more interest and contribution.

It's not posted on my website yet, so use the link below to get a sneak preview.

direct link

As far as I'm aware, I'm still waiting on the following:

Fistandantilus - I have you down as having promised a hunky troll dude in trunks and an ork or dwarf female. Not sure if you decided to do the elf samurai instead? Also a statement that you want to redo the troll?

Rione - your work is brilliant. I hope you don't mind me sticking some mock-interview stuff with it in the magazine. You also declared your intention to do some sexy dermal deposits. Still up for that?

Squinky - I have you down for a troll babe as well, still to come... ?

Trigger - I have the sketches which I've put in the magazine, but I'm still waiting for inked versions of them you said you were planning?

Kyoto Kid - You said you'd done a picture for this and were looking for a scanner? Any developments?

-K.

EDIT: There are plenty of good pieces that I haven't put in here. That doesn't mean I'm not including them! It just means I haven't the time to do a full thing yet and didn't want to get to into it if I was going to be re-arranging it when I get more pieces.

I am working on inking some of those sketches as well as starting a couple of more. My drawing schedule has been very erratic as of late, but I will try and get some stuff up soon.

are you planning on making it, umm, viewable without me doing 1 armed sideways pushups?

Hi Knasser,

It's hiding deep in the thread, but I did up a Troll Chick already

Repost of the Troll Chick

Beyond that, looks like you are doing a cool job on this, kudos.

Squinky post the nameless ork chic here too.

(I know I'm being naggy sorry)

Oh ok well then carry on nothing to see here.

This is such a great idea !!


Why not put this together and let people buy it from lulu.com, for something low priced [$5] ??

Is there a way to clear this with the SR owners, as a 'fan 'production' ??


Regardless, this is great and I am in awe of some of the artistic talent on these forums.

I'm prety sure Wizkids are fine with a free fan product, but once you start charging $ for the product, then you are gitting into trouble.

Lars

Bah offer them final approval of the book and 50% of the profits they will think wait we get to say yea or nay and earn 50% of the money for doing nothing ok you got your approval.

...biting the EXEX bullet & going to Kinko's tomorrow to get a scan done. The one thing, I do not have Photoshop or any other really decent image processing software so it will be the raw scan.

BTW Direct Linky all broken.

I like it when you guys use DeviantART.com, then I can add to my favs!

How about Bubba the Love Troll in either a speedo or swim trunk with leg holes that are way too large ( such you really don't want him to sit down due to a high risk of fall-out).

...OK here she is.

Please excuse the image quality as pencil scans do not come out very well without a lot of post process work. Being that I was "on the clock" at Kinko's and not up to speed on the current version of Photoshop® I was limited in what I could so to try and enhance the image.

As mentioned in the comments, this is the first sketch I have done in a while due to my advancing arthritis. Although I'll admit it was fun to do in spite of all the Advil™ required.

Leela Swimsuit Sketch

Dude - all your disclaimers notwithstanding, that's my favorite one so far on this thread. And she doesn't look underage at all (maybe that's why you're dissatisfied?).

...Many thanks.

Yeah, age is a tricky thing, though I am satisfied with her appearance. It works for me because after all, she is modeling and thus would definitely undergo a bit of a makeover.

I guess I'm more disappointed about the reproduction quality. Seeing the high quality of submissions by Squinky, HolyChampion, and Trigger (who by the way does pencil works & gets them to reproduce with all the subtle nuances) I feel I need better scan and touch up tools of my own to really bring an image out better. Because of my stiff hands I tend to have a very soft touch.

and now I can truly appreciate all the pointers and tips that I have recieved.
That is truly awesome work.
It truly pains me to think that their isn't anymore forth coming, seriously.

...gosh ...thank you very much

Actually I am going though my archives and will be posting some of the stuff I have done in the past. Non SR pics will be in the General Gaming thread.

As I mentioned, it was fun and the experience kind of made me see how much I missed drawing. I wish I could afford the latest & greatest in graphics processing software (MS Paint just doesn't cut it).

...oh & don't count out any future stuff appearing now that I've been bitten by the bug again. For now I will not be doing commission work since I cannot guarantee a reasonable time frame. Also, my technique and style tends to favour female characters (most of my males tend to look too "girly", which I guess is fine for elves and some alien races).

AT the very least, you should put up your KK art up there.

I mean, sheesh.

...the Short One ( "...hey pilgrim, watch who you're calling short...") <ahem> ...KK is next on the list. I still have the first sketch I ever did of her (long before the "Bushido Cowgirl" days). Radically different considering this was SR1 and the "Punk" was still in Cyberpunk.

can't wait. u r already on my watch list.

and if one prefer vector graphics:
http://inkscape.org/

I think it works fine now. Sourceforge can be a bit troublesome at times.

...got it, thanks.

looks like I'm going to have a busy weekend ahead of me.

BTW Leela's pic has been getting quite a few hits. Don't know if it's from casual viewers or fans of Futurama expecting to their the one eyed purple haired lovely.

I chose the name after seeing The Fifth Element as a slight variant on the character Leeloo who was an influence on the development of her personality.

...I just discovered the Leela Swimsuit pic has a reference on Google after I typed in "Groznek" while doing background research on the name.

..freaky