The board software we are running is a out of date and we would like to upgrade the software.
That said, there will be a number of changes coming. The top two that come to mind:
1) The Terms of Service are changing.
2) Our current theme will not import and some changes are coming in look/feel.
I am creating two threads for discussion of these topics. We will post more as required.
Full Version: Dumpshock 2.0: Dumpshock the upgrade
Most important question, IMO, is will 'Welcome to the Shadows' be ported over fully?
As far as I know, all threads will be ported over in full.
...will links look & work the same?
...What about background skin & text (colour, available fonts, size, etc...)
...Will you still be able to paste in alternate fonts like Cyrillic, Hebrew, "extended" (such as the French "é" German "ü") and symbols like ("€" and "Δ")?
...will Avatars be available or will this feature still be shut down. (never clear on the reason why this was done as so many other forums I'm on allow them).
...and please, will that pesky "(
" (eight followed by right paren) bug be fixed?
...What about background skin & text (colour, available fonts, size, etc...)
...Will you still be able to paste in alternate fonts like Cyrillic, Hebrew, "extended" (such as the French "é" German "ü") and symbols like ("€" and "Δ")?
...will Avatars be available or will this feature still be shut down. (never clear on the reason why this was done as so many other forums I'm on allow them).
...and please, will that pesky "(
" (eight followed by right paren) bug be fixed?
I can say this much for sure... Avatars will be enabled, and we are stocking a full library of images for you to chose from. No you may not have your own avatar to upload.
The transfer of all threads should be complete, I'll leave you in suspense, but let you know there is a restructure coming of top level topics.
As explained in the other thread, the only change to links was in the {spolier} tag, it should be much clearer for you all to read.
I'll have to go back and test the others.
The transfer of all threads should be complete, I'll leave you in suspense, but let you know there is a restructure coming of top level topics.
As explained in the other thread, the only change to links was in the {spolier} tag, it should be much clearer for you all to read.
I'll have to go back and test the others.
I hope its not like the sequal that ruins an entire series.
| QUOTE (SinN) |
| I hope its not like the sequal that ruins an entire series. |
What like Land Before Time II-XVI?
Don't you mean Dumpshock 4.0?
UBB -> Jive -> IPB -> phpBB
(Still holding out hope that someday the posts from the UBB and Jive years will return...)
UBB -> Jive -> IPB -> phpBB
(Still holding out hope that someday the posts from the UBB and Jive years will return...)
I can't use my Tim The Enchanter image for my Avatar? 
Avatars? Wow, times are changing! 
| QUOTE (Mr. Man @ Jan 29 2008, 08:57 PM) |
| Don't you mean Dumpshock 4.0? UBB -> Jive -> IPB -> phpBB (Still holding out hope that someday the posts from the UBB and Jive years will return...) |
IIRC, it would be 6.0 The two previous incarnations as the Deep Resonance Forums count.
| QUOTE |
| I can say this much for sure... Avatars will be enabled, and we are stocking a full library of images for you to chose from. No you may not have your own avatar to upload. |
Can we submit images to the library, for everyone's usage? I use the Harlequin cover as an avatar on RPG.net, and I think that'd be a very cool one for general use.
| QUOTE (Mr. Man) |
| Don't you mean Dumpshock 4.0? UBB -> Jive -> IPB -> phpBB |
Wait, what? You're not serious about the phpBB, are you? I'm pretty sure not, as I've heard opinions on it from Neuron Basher before (which I have since come to agree with), but… where did that come from?
~J
| QUOTE (Cain) |
| Can we submit images to the library, for everyone's usage? I use the Harlequin cover as an avatar on RPG.net, and I think that'd be a very cool one for general use. |
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/bull...lldrek/Harl.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/bull...k/HarleBack.jpg
We have several hundred images, including stuff from every SR book cover. There's a LOT of options available
Once it goes live and you see what is there, if there's something missing I'm sure we'll be more than glad to add it in.
Bull
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) | ||
Wait, what? You're not serious about the phpBB, are you? I'm pretty sure not, as I've heard opinions on it from Neuron Basher before (which I have since come to agree with), but… where did that come from? ~J |
Not sure where Mr. Man got that. We talked about creating some custom board software at one point, but then we realized that the only couple people who had the skills to do so also had zero free time.
We're upgrading to a new version of Invision, the same software we're running now. We're stress testing it a bit and tweaking the options now.
Bull
And running several tests of the upgrade itself, learning a little about what occurs in the upgrade. 
With the size of the posts table, it cannot be ran in automatic mode, it has to be upgraded in manual mode.
With the size of the posts table, it cannot be ran in automatic mode, it has to be upgraded in manual mode.
So, can you give us a ballpark idea of when it's gonna happen? I'm kinda anxious to see it.
| QUOTE (apollo124) |
| So, can you give us a ballpark idea of when it's gonna happen? I'm kinda anxious to see it. |
Ballpark figure?
Sometime in the 21st century.
Beyond that, once Redjack gets done breaking and then fixing things, and we reach a decision about which toys to turn on and which to leave off (Or figure out how to disable)
Personally, I'm trying to talk them into disabling the "Post New Topic" and "Reply To Topic" feature.
Bull
Ya got a much bigger idea of what size a ballpark is than I do, Bull!
Looking forward to checking it out.
Looking forward to checking it out.
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) |
| I can say this much for sure... Avatars will be enabled, and we are stocking a full library of images for you to chose from. No you may not have your own avatar to upload |
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) |
| I can say this much for sure... Avatars will be enabled, and we are stocking a full library of images for you to chose from. |
That's unfortunate.
| QUOTE |
| No you may not have your own avatar to upload. |
And that's just odd—why enable them at all, in this case?
~J
| QUOTE (Bull) |
| We're upgrading to a new version of Invision |
Sorry, I was thinking of another web site I read (via RSS) that without notice just stopped updating their front page for three months while working on a phpBB 3 upgrade.
It was a frustrating situation.
SOOOOO...is the plan here at Dumpshock still to
Just...you know...asking...
Subsites: We are looking into a timeline explorer, but the code for any remaining, missing subsites is questionable. The Home Page was updated last week to only include sites that are up.
Avatars: You are welcome to use any of the several hundred avatars that will be supplied or not use one at all.
Timeline: Adam and I have been discussing this coming Sunday. That is my target date to perform the upgrade.
Avatars: You are welcome to use any of the several hundred avatars that will be supplied or not use one at all.
Timeline: Adam and I have been discussing this coming Sunday. That is my target date to perform the upgrade.
Here is a screen shot of the Forum home page with the forums collapsed.
Here is a screen shot in the Discussion Forum.
Here is a screen shot in the Shadowrun Fourth Edition Forum.
Here is a screen shot in the Discussion Forum.
Here is a screen shot in the Shadowrun Fourth Edition Forum.
My that's a bright green color.
| QUOTE (Redjack) |
| Subsites: We are looking into a timeline explorer, but the code for any remaining, missing subsites is questionable. |
What about the NSRCG?
(Good to see the progress that has been made so far. Hopefully the Timeline Explorer will make a comeback as it was really useful)
...on the whole I prefer...Blue (just kidding )
Looks pretty good.
Will we see what an open post looks like soon?
)Looks pretty good.
Will we see what an open post looks like soon?
| QUOTE (DireRadiant) |
| My that's a bright green color. |
More green = more cyberpunk.
Then again, I used raw telnet to play a lot of MUSHes back in the day.
I don't like that new DS logo - IMHO it looks somewhat "retro", 80s-like - problem: it doesn't look cool retro!
And that green-and-black color scheme looks more like a Cyberpunk 3-forum...
And that green-and-black color scheme looks more like a Cyberpunk 3-forum...
| QUOTE (MYST1C) |
| I don't like that new DS logo - IMHO it looks somewhat "retro", 80s-like - problem: it doesn't look cool retro! And that green-and-black color scheme looks more like a Cyberpunk 3-forum... |
Funny, but I quite like both the new logo and the new color scheme.
Of course, a little purple would make it much better!
The green was picked to go along with the shift of the core book from blue to green.
Screw that other game.
Screw that other game.
Can we have a blue alternative skin? Or grey-metallic? General appearance is fine, I´d just like another colour for the bars.
I´d also prefer the old logo, with adjustment in colour to the rest of course. I´ve got a problem with green/yellow colour perception, I can for example NOT tell if the new logo is yellow/blue or green/blue. I THINK it is green.
I´d also prefer the old logo, with adjustment in colour to the rest of course. I´ve got a problem with green/yellow colour perception, I can for example NOT tell if the new logo is yellow/blue or green/blue. I THINK it is green.
We will have one theme. The current theme is not compatible with the upgrade. If time presents itself in the future to test alternate themes, that might be an option. At this point in time it is not on anyone's current 'to do' list. There is considerable tweaking required on the themes to get them to work properly.
| QUOTE (eidolon) |
| The green was picked to go along with the shift of the core book from blue to green. |
But aren't the new books a nice, soft Sea-Green; not radioactive SOX-Green?
Either the physical books are a substantially different shade than the PDF, one of us has some kind of monitor miscalibration or colour perception impairment, or you have a deeply strange idea of what a nice, soft sea-green is
~J
~J
...so much for lobbying for Green Bay Packer Green & Gold
| QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) |
| ...so much for lobbying for Green Bay Packer Green & Gold |
I tried it for us.... we didn't win that one though
As they say, always next year for us fans!
Mmm, that green is intense. I like the idea of giving it the feel of a SR4 book, but that's not quite the same color as my book.
All in all, it looks.....very similar, and that's probably a good thing.
I have to say, I prefer the current logo to the new logo, but I'm not going to claim that the current logo is perfect and should never be replaced, either.
As for avatars, yeah, I'll probably pick one. I guess.
I don't know, the whole thing is kind of 'meh', to me.
All in all, it looks.....very similar, and that's probably a good thing.
I have to say, I prefer the current logo to the new logo, but I'm not going to claim that the current logo is perfect and should never be replaced, either.
As for avatars, yeah, I'll probably pick one. I guess.
I don't know, the whole thing is kind of 'meh', to me.
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) | ||
I tried it for us.... we didn't win that one though As they say, always next year for us fans! |
Hey, at least I stuck with some nice, classy Red on Black. I could have lobbied for Cleveland Browns colors, cause hey, Brown & Orange are obviously a great color scheme...
Course Ohio State Grey & Red wouldn't be bad, Those were my old High School football (and baseball, and wrestling) colors.
And to answer the one question, alternate color schemes are a possibility for down the line. However, right now we're more worried about making sure the boards are stable, working properly, and not the first step to machines gaining sentience and taking over the world.
Bull
| QUOTE (Bull) |
| And to answer the one question, alternate color schemes are a possibility for down the line. However, right now we're more worried about making sure the boards are stable, working properly, and not the first step to machines gaining sentience and taking over the world. |
Shit, I should remove that code I uploaded then, before its too late for all of us....
| QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) |
| Mmm, that green is intense. I like the idea of giving it the feel of a SR4 book, but that's not quite the same color as my book. All in all, it looks.....very similar, and that's probably a good thing. I have to say, I prefer the current logo to the new logo, but I'm not going to claim that the current logo is perfect and should never be replaced, either. As for avatars, yeah, I'll probably pick one. I guess. I don't know, the whole thing is kind of 'meh', to me. |
Honestly, for the most part we're not trying to promote the new boards as some "great new thing".
It has been apparent for quite some time though that we needed to do a major upgrade. It's been planned several times, and at one point Mark had started working on creating a customized set of code for us. However, life has it's demands, and a message board just doesn't always rate real high on the list of priorities. So it got pushed back time and again.
At this point, the version of Invision that we're running is gimped. It's something like 5 years out of date, and I don;t even think it's really supported anymore (I'm not really positive on all the intricacies involved with the software license). Things keep breaking, and if we're lucky we can patch them to make it functional (My Controls, for example), but it's not the same as actually fixing them or stabalizing things.
So we went out and bought ourselves a fresh, shiny new license. We stuck with invision because we figured it would be easiest, since most of us know the controls and layout. We're tweaking it a bit to suit the whims and desires of the current moderator crew, as well as updating our mindset a little for 2008 (To give an example, Avatars were vetoed last time around because dial up was still such a common connection method, so loading speeds for our users were a concern. Now, it's not as big an issue)
Really, this is just an upgrade and a minor overhaul. A chance for us to do some cleaning up, toss out some of the accumulated clutter and rearrange the furniture a bit. Maybe paint the walls or something. But at he end of the day, it's still the same house we've been living in for close to a decade now.
Bull
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) | ||
Shit, I should remove that code I uploaded then, before its too late for all of us.... |
God dammit, Caine! Remember what I told you! Man drives Machine, not Machine drives Man! Keep this up, and the only Battlemech's you'll see are the ones hunting down metahumanity!
Bull
P.S. Damn, I just had an interesting image of a merged SR/Battletech/Terminator world, and now I want to play that game. Shadowrunners as freedom fighters fighting Skynet and it's legions of Battlemechs.
You're running this for me at Origins, Andy. There will be blood. And Booze. And if we're lucky, boobs! The three B's... Ahhhhh, a perfect night....
Heh. It's past my bedtime. I think I need sleep.
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
| one of us has some kind of monitor miscalibration or colour perception impairment, or you have a deeply strange idea of what a nice, soft sea-green is ; |
Nah, thats the effects of the toxic-data sprite in charge of themes. He only has 37 services left then I promise he won't be re-registered again..
| QUOTE (Bull) | ||
Honestly, for the most part we're not trying to promote the new boards as some "great new thing". .................. Really, this is just an upgrade and a minor overhaul. A chance for us to do some cleaning up, toss out some of the accumulated clutter and rearrange the furniture a bit. Maybe paint the walls or something. But at he end of the day, it's still the same house we've been living in for close to a decade now. Bull |
Sounds good to me. That's all I'm expecting from it anyway. I'm glad not much is changing. Some alternate skins would be nice, though, that's all I'm saying.
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Jan 31 2008, 01:48 PM) |
| Shit, I should remove that code I uploaded then, before its too late for all of us.... |
BTW: The toxic-data sprite already located that. He's working an 'fixing' your PC as I type...
| QUOTE (Bull) |
| Course Ohio State Grey & Red wouldn't be bad... |
...in the collegate ranks I'm more partial to the glorious Red & White: On Wisconsin
Though I agree, making sure everything works correctly is a priority, the pretty pretty stuff can come later.
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) | ||
Shit, I should remove that code I uploaded then, before its too late for all of us.... |
Sissies.
| QUOTE (Bull @ Jan 31 2008, 01:56 PM) | ||||
God dammit, Caine! Remember what I told you! Man drives Machine, not Machine drives Man! Keep this up, and the only Battlemech's you'll see are the ones hunting down metahumanity! Bull P.S. Damn, I just had an interesting image of a merged SR/Battletech/Terminator world, and now I want to play that game. Shadowrunners as freedom fighters fighting Skynet and it's legions of Battlemechs. You're running this for me at Origins, Andy. There will be blood. And Booze. And if we're lucky, boobs! The three B's... Ahhhhh, a perfect night.... Heh. It's past my bedtime. I think I need sleep. |
Ummm...it's past your bedtime at 2:42 pm?
| QUOTE (apollo124) |
| Ummm...it's past your bedtime at 2:42 pm? |
This is a man who has obviously never worked third shift in his time. Its all sorts of fun (no) and excitement (don't hit me with a 707 you asshat pilot)
On the plus side, once I get done on the current work Bull, I'll write up a one shot for the crew at Origins... what the hell. It could be fun!
You get to play Sarah Conner though
| QUOTE (Bull) |
| Really, this is just an upgrade and a minor overhaul. A chance for us to do some cleaning up, toss out some of the accumulated clutter and rearrange the furniture a bit. Maybe paint the walls or something. But at he end of the day, it's still the same house we've been living in for close to a decade now. |
Are you still going to reorganize the Forums (namely the unnecessary confusion of Shadorun and Shadowrun, Fourth Edition), as was indicated in several other threads about the upgrade?
| QUOTE (Caine Hazen) | ||
This is a man who has obviously never worked third shift in his time. |
Seriously. That's the time I got up.
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