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The Jake
It could be something you have custom designed in game or imported from another.

Like porting Mr. Studd sexual implants from Cyberpunk 2020.

- J.
Kagetenshi
Dunno, but I want it to have come from Deus.

~J
The Jake
How many MPs of data would it take to store Deus in a human head?

- J.
Kagetenshi
Deus apparently knows.

~J
Yum Donuts
DNI. as a biomedical engineer, I can build anything given that
3Threes
if you are including bioware then the best would be a non-house-ruled mnemonic enhancer $$

go get those quadruple bachelors degrees in half the time!
Joker9125
time for yet another stupid noob question by Joker who is Deus.
Lilt
QUOTE (Joker9125)
time for yet another stupid noob question by Joker who is Deus.

Big AI, ran the Renraku arcology, made bad stuff happen, was destroyed, well: maybe.
Kagetenshi
If you happen to live in a certain Renraku building, he is your new God as of December 2058. If not, well, I'll leave that little tidbit of information for your GM to reveal as he/she sees fit vegm.gif

~J
Ancient History
Mr. Studd ™

'cause a chemical gland producing viagra just doesn't work.
The Jake
There needs to be a better way of storing data. GPs of data, not MPs.

DNI is a good one. Some sort of interface for AIs direct into the human mind would be nice.... a way to use your organic brain for storing data instead of seperate storage would be nice.....

- J.
Rock-Steady
QUOTE (The Jake @ Dec 25 2003, 01:31 AM)
How many MPs of data would it take to store Deus in a human head?

- J.

At least 1731150 MP......

To topic:

I'm waitin' for the real Full-Body-Replacements.....
Ancient History
Really? I've got the minium down at something over 50,000Mp.
Rock-Steady
*g*

Ok here the way i calculated it:

First all White Banded have at least 150 mp of memory (RA:S Page 83).

In Threats 2 "The Network" the node has the binary number 10110100010101 (thats 11541 in decimal).

Now multiply 11541 with 150 MP and you got at least 1731150 MP.

Et vóila.
Userlimit
Just a simple datajack (along with the matrix coming into existence). And a Fairlight, just because.
Ancient History
Okay, I was just going by the "Mousetrap" Deus was supposed to be caught in: soemthing over 25,000Mp with a Compressor utility.
Kagetenshi
That only applies if the numbering system starts from 1, and if the entire numeric block is a single number. For instance, it's entirely possible that that number really means Division 5 (101), Group 5 (101), Node 21 (00010101).

~J
nezumi
I was GOING to agree with Ancient History (I mean come on, a jack and a deck probably isn't even compatible with the internet of today... this at least is useful on a daily basis.)

But then I thought I'd prefer the giant, chromed cyberarm. Funny, I don't like tattoos or piercings because I'm a strong beleiver in the wholistic value of the body, but I don't think I could resist having a supercool cyberarm with all the neat, built in toys like a wireless laptop connection, a hand toolkit and the internal AK-98.
Tanka
Why an AK-98 when you could use a shotgun? Makes for interesting table conversation and you can easily wave-kill somebody in a fight!

"Hi there!" *wave, blast*
"H--Frag!" *die*
Liquid_Obsidian
Ghost suit skin ...definitely....
Cray74
QUOTE (The Jake)
It could be something you have custom designed in game or imported from another.

Like porting Mr. Studd sexual implants from Cyberpunk 2020.

- J.

Actually, there's quite a bit of bioware in C2020 I think is pretty cool, like the distributed heart and that lifesaver nanoweave.

Speaking of cyberware alone...the full body replacement. And the removable bio-pod feature. The "cybertorso" of SR just leaves too much meat, all those original organs in a reinforced shell. Me, I want full borg conversions.
Spookymonster
Chipjacks and skillsofts, definitely. To instantly know any language? To have the library of Congress at my fingertips? To have Asia Carrera's 'Lord of the @#$% Rings' in full PolyPOV jacked straight into my skull?!?!? Yeah, that's the baby I'm savin' my Essence for this Christmas...smile.gif
hobgoblin
hey rock-steady, that nick made me think of turtles silly.gif
Rock-Steady
QUOTE (hobgoblin)
hey rock-steady, that nick made me think of turtles silly.gif

COWABUNGA!!!! biggrin.gif rotfl.gif grinbig.gif wobble.gif
Fresno Bob
Bebop and Rocksteady were awesome. I had a Rocksteady action figure, with auto punching action. It was cool. In any case, I'd probably get a cyberarm, with a bunch of strength enhancements, so I can crush the skulls of my enemies. I'd probably also get it with some pointy studs on it. Man that would rule. And a cybershotgun. Man that would also rule.
Zolhex
Ok how about the cyberheart that was introduced (sorta) in the genesis console game. Or other cyber versions of the orgins needed to sustain life. We can rebuild him faster, stronger, better than before biggrin.gif . How about a cyber brain or at the least a way to just download knowledge (I.E. Matrix Tank I need a ____ Program) and bam you got it and know it priod.

Another thing what about better cyberware Gamma Grade. biggrin.gif Fully cybered (arms, legs, body, skull) in less than 2 essance.
Moonstone Spider
Cyberwings.

Seriously, Leonardo da Vinci came up with an effective wing mechanism for human flight, only it requires muscles stronger than any human has. With cyber augmentation a set of deployable wings made of some lightweight alloy tubing plus ballistic cloth should be possible in the SR universe. They'd probably require a cybertorso for the huge torque needed to lift off, have a wingspan of perhaps 5-7 meters, and have a rating to determine how much weight, above the weight of the user, they could carry. Flight would be an active skill probably linked to body. I'd put the essence at similar to any other cyberlimb, perhaps a bit high, like 1.25 per wing. They'd always be obvious and socially disturbing, be incompatible with a balance tail (Because a stabilizer has to deploy there) and give the player a movement rate of x6 when flying.
Tanka
QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)
Another thing what about better cyberware Gamma Grade. biggrin.gif Fully cybered (arms, legs, body, skull) in less than 2 essance.

Technically speaking... It should go Alpha, Beta, Gamma, then Delta. But nooo, FASA has to be goofy and do the Greek alphabet wrong.

Maybe Gamma was at one time existant, but nobody cared about it because it sucked. Or FASA probably just goofed up big time.

My guess is on the latter.
Game2BHappy
QUOTE (The Jake)
Name one piece of cyberware you wish existed...., but hasn't been made yet for SR!

The SmartBall link mentioned in Shadowbeat.
Kagetenshi
No one said gamma has to be better than delta. It probably doesn't sell very well anyway, as anyone with enough cash will go all the way, so it makes sense that it wouldn't exist. Like the G4 Cube. Filled a narrow market segment between two extremes.

~J
Tanka
It probably would've merited mention, though, had it ever existed. I mean, you can't just skip over it entirely in a book dedicated just to new Cyberware and Cybermancy (Cybertechnology). My guess is FASA just botched their "I'm not an idiot" check.
Kagetenshi
Or maybe they just wanted four levels, didn't want to rename basic to alpha, and delta sounds cooler than gamma.

~J
Fortune
When it was first conceived, Gamma-grade cyberware was designated by the Corporate Court as being restricted to Critter and Paracritter experimentation.

Sure it's bullshit, but it works. biggrin.gif
Tanka
Who says Street Doc A obeys Corp Court? biggrin.gif
Fortune
QUOTE (tanka @ Dec 26 2003, 01:32 PM)
Who says Street Doc A obeys Corp Court?

Street Doc A doesn't actually create (and hence name) the Cyber he installs. He gets it from Megacorp Y, who does follow the Corporate Court. wink.gif
Tanka
Street Doc A could create his own 'ware. You can buy the stuff to do so, it's just gonna take out his wallet for years down the road.
Fortune
While this is true, it isn't likely to be a better grade than Standard cyberware. He might be able to construct Alpha-ware, and if you really push it, maybe even Beta, but for anything equivalent to the next grade up from that, it is highly unlikely. Even if he does somehow accomplish it, he would make himself a nice, valid target for any headhunting Corp.

Besides, I like my answer. biggrin.gif
Tanka
Of course you do. biggrin.gif

Besides, to do Delta, you have to make it just for that person. So it can be done, it would just take quite a while to finish.
Fortune
To do Beta, it has to be at least partially created for that person.

I admit it could be done, but it isn't very likely. If the doc was that interested in creating uber-experimental cyberware, there are lots of other avenues he could, and most probably would follow.

And, like I said, if he was to be successful, he wouldn't be an independent Street Doc for long. wink.gif
Zolhex
QUOTE (tanka)
Technically speaking... It should go Alpha, Beta, Gamma, then Delta. But nooo, FASA has to be goofy and do the Greek alphabet wrong.

Yes you are right. Ok how about Epsilon or Zeta Cyber (the next names in the progression of the Greek Alphabet).

Grade ______ Essance Cost Reduction ____ Cost Multiplier _____Availablity
Epsilon _____ - 70 % ( x .3 ) ____________ 12 _______________ + 12 / x 5

Grade ______ Essance Cost Reduction ____ Cost Multiplier _____Availablity
Zeta _____ - 90 % ( x .1 ) ____________ 16 _______________ + 16 / x 8

Now we can play magical characters with move by wire 4 eek.gif eek.gif
Tanka
QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)
QUOTE (tanka @ Dec 25 2003, 08:59 PM)
Technically speaking...  It should go Alpha, Beta, Gamma, then Delta.  But nooo, FASA has to be goofy and do the Greek alphabet wrong.

Yes you are right. Ok how about Epsilon or Zeta Cyber (the next names in the progression of the Greek Alphabet).

Grade ______ Essance Cost Reduction ____ Cost Multiplier _____Availablity
Epsilon _____ - 70 % ( x .3 ) ____________ 12 _______________ + 12 / x 5

Grade ______ Essance Cost Reduction ____ Cost Multiplier _____Availablity
Zeta _____ - 90 % ( x .1 ) ____________ 16 _______________ + 16 / x 8

Now we can play magical characters with move by wire 4 eek.gif eek.gif

Yeah, if you've got 32,000,000 nuyen sitting around. And can manage the Etiquette roll to get it, and can negotiate it to be exactly listed value and not Street Index.
Zolhex
New from your favorite corp. It's new!!! It's cutting edge!!! It's the best Cyberware we have ever made get yours now. Prices may vary from dealer to dealer.

So yes for quite some time it will be expensive and dammed hard to get let alone even hear of. But hey you introduce it now in 2064 (read as new source book SOTA:2064) as a rumor. Wait till 2065 (read as new source book SOTA:2065) let it be available at oh my god prices. Wait till 2066 (read as new source book SOTA:2066) let it be available at somewhere around Delta costs.

Of course by then Delta should be at or around Beta costs.

QUOTE
Yeah, if you've got 32,000,000 nuyen sitting around.


What and you don't????? grinbig.gif rotfl.gif biggrin.gif eek.gif spin.gif wobble.gif rotate.gif
Phaeton
QUOTE (Game2BHappy)
QUOTE (The Jake)
Name one piece of cyberware you wish existed...., but hasn't been made yet for SR!

The SmartBall link mentioned in Shadowbeat.

SmartBall link? O_o Is that like a smartlink for grenades and possibly baseballs?
Ol' Scratch
It's designed for athletes, especially basketball and baseball players.
Phaeton
Ahhhhhhh...
leemur
QUOTE (E.O.T.L.F.)
QUOTE (tanka @ Dec 25 2003, 08:59 PM)
Technically speaking...  It should go Alpha, Beta, Gamma, then Delta.  But nooo, FASA has to be goofy and do the Greek alphabet wrong.

Yes you are right. Ok how about Epsilon or Zeta Cyber (the next names in the progression of the Greek Alphabet).

Now we can play magical characters with move by wire 4 eek.gif eek.gif


And somewhere down the line, we end up with Omega ware, which is so god damn cool it actually gives you Essence.

biggrin.gif
Zolhex
QUOTE (leemur @ Dec 26 2003, 06:19 AM)
And somewhere down the line, we end up with Omega ware, which is so god damn cool it actually gives you Essence.

biggrin.gif

There ya go that'll work.

Hi I'm Tim the Mage I am a 10th level initiate with 10 points of Omega cyberware and an essance of 10. I'll be your tormentor today. grinbig.gif
Siege
QUOTE (Phaeton)
QUOTE (Game2BHappy @ Dec 25 2003, 09:11 PM)
QUOTE (The Jake)
Name one piece of cyberware you wish existed...., but hasn't been made yet for SR!

The SmartBall link mentioned in Shadowbeat.

SmartBall link? O_o Is that like a smartlink for grenades and possibly baseballs?

Unfortunately, so far as I know, they've never published numbers for it.

Which is a shame, cause I like the idea of pinpoint accuracy with a grenade.

Bouncing it off some poor schmuck's forehead just adds insult to injury. grinbig.gif

-Siege
fourstring_samurai
a detachable cyber face for the infiltrator types. with three or four faces lying around, everytime you needed to change your identity you just pop the old one off and slap a new one on. and just think of the possibilities when combined with a second retinal pattern and a voice mod...

kenji
QUOTE (Siege)
QUOTE (Phaeton @ Dec 26 2003, 03:20 AM)
QUOTE (Game2BHappy @ Dec 25 2003, 09:11 PM)
QUOTE (The Jake)
Name one piece of cyberware you wish existed...., but hasn't been made yet for SR!

The SmartBall link mentioned in Shadowbeat.

SmartBall link? O_o Is that like a smartlink for grenades and possibly baseballs?

Unfortunately, so far as I know, they've never published numbers for it.

Which is a shame, cause I like the idea of pinpoint accuracy with a grenade.

Bouncing it off some poor schmuck's forehead just adds insult to injury. :grinbig:

-Siege

and then some oddball will combine Missle Mastery with the Smartball Link and start hucking around minigrenades by hand.

you just need to put enough spin on them to get em to arm. it's all in the wrist, doncha know.

>:)
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