I was wondering from the Seattle Yakuza thread that it would really suck if the NPCs we used were suddenly die of old age and we were still thinking they were alive. So who are the candidates for one leg in the box?

I am not so interested in the IEs but more so in other meta-humans' ages, like Tir Princes Rex and Larry, people like Damien Knight and Fastjack.

Damien Knight has undergone Leonization at least once, so should be in no danger of dropping dead of old age any time soon.

Fastjack was born in 1999, making him 64 years old as of the latest release. No official news as to whether he is ready to keel over, but if he's as good as his rep says, then he has also probably undergone Leonization.

Not to sound uninformed, but what's Leonization? Does it have something to do with lions?

Age rejuvenation. It's an expensive treatment that basically gives a person back their youth.

I figured as much. Why do they have to give it a funky name? Couldn't they just call it like, the Rejuvenotron, or something?

It was named after Ponce de Leon as the Fountain of Youth, therefore you have Leonization.

If you can pick up a copy of Shadowtech to flip through it goes into it all. They also updated it for SR3 in SOTA:2063, but I haven't been able to get ahold of a copy of it yet so I don't know how much info they rehash in it.

I once saw a copy of SOTA: 2063 in my local gaming store. I had no money, so, I came back the next day. It was gone. When I asked the shopkeep about it, he replied.

"Buy something or get the hell out, before I break my foot off in your ass."

His words were true. The mystical SOTA: 2063 was gone, never to be seen again.

Damn my local gaming store sucks. It's all D&D crap, and no-name publisher crap that has been sitting and will continue to sit on the shelves forever.

People, that's what the internet if for.

So maybe we should start a Shadowrun Dead Pool?

Basically the process now costs some bioindex (as it is messing with your body after all). I think it can only be done in orbit (making it megabucks before even considering what it does), and is EXPENSIVE.

It also mentioned that it could only be done some many times (the bio cost), as it couldn't be used to mess with the brain. That spurred some questions in my brain, but that's a different post

Grim Shear
"Silly not showing what I want..."

Um... Am I alone in thinking that it should cost Essence like it did in Shadowtech?

Yes. Why would it do that?

~J

Why dont these poeple just really kiss ass to some free spirits and have them use hidden life on them if i am not mistaken it gives you imunity to age.

That gives the free spirit, and by extension anyone who learns the spirit's name, a hold on the person. Unacceptable risk.

~J

well the way i look at it if ur 99 and about to die and you only have one more Leonization left i think that risk would be pretty acceptable to me.

on another note the book dosent say and me and my GM disagree on this. Can the spirit take away the hidden life or is it perminant.

If you were a free spirit, would you really want to hide your life force inside a 99 year old man/woman?

Edit: Hidden life is permanent. It says so in the first line of the description for the power in MitS.

Be the last place anyone looked.

after a Leonization he wouldnt really be 99 anymore. while i dont know exactly how much age a Leonization can take off u get the point that im trying to make. If in fact you can only use Leonization so many times; after that last time im pretty sure that the people who use it and are so addicted to youth if you would would try anything to keep it reguardless of the risk.

If someone else gets the spirit's true name, it don't matter one bit whether or not the spirit wants to work against you.

~J

And the spirit would do this why?

~J

your brain degenerates as you age. for leonization to work, it has to be able to correct this, or you're still going to senile--you'll just be a freak, because you're young and senile. ergo, leonization should--by all that's right and logical--cost essence.

but it doesn't.

Not everybody's mind degenerates. Some old people are exceptionally intelligent even now.

Just because you're old doesn't mean you have no use any longer.

Except the treatment itself is considered somewhat natural (as opposed to cybernetic), so it costs Bio-Index instead.

Leonization may very well not actually rejuvenate the brain, just restore the body to a degree where it can support the brain without further degeneration. The brain may end up degenerating in some successfully-Leonized people anyway.

~J

*pulls out SOTA:2063*

"brain chemistry, for example, must be largely unaltered or the patient runs the risk of losing much of their memory and acquired motor skills."

Even given it's cost in bio index, Leonization could provide centuries of life to those able to afford it.

As to the brain itself degenerating: it does. All cells do past a certain point (that part when you "start dying." ) The brain (as it must be left alone by Leonization), would continue to truly age, while the body keeps getting reset to 20ish.

Grim Shear
"And that is funny, because..."