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Doc Byte
QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Aug 6 2009, 02:55 AM) *
Fire source


Finally. I was wondering why nobody mentioned a damn Zippo.
Kerenshara
QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Aug 6 2009, 03:46 PM) *
That's the purpose for the rubberband. Better than viagra. Besides blueballs is easy enough. You rub him until he is about to come off and then have your boyfriend phone up and excuse yourself to go have sex with him.

Oh, the after part's cliche. I was just thinking about, like, across the room with his rapt attention. You know, with his friends ribbing him and telling him to just go talk to her?
betterwatchit
Armored Vest and Jacket. 1500 nuyen.gif for good protection.

Edit: Misread the rules.
Mr. Mage
QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 6 2009, 07:35 PM) *
Finally. I was wondering why nobody mentioned a damn Zippo.


I call my F7 Bound Fire Spirit Zippo...guess what he does?!
Doc Byte
QUOTE (Mr. Mage @ Aug 7 2009, 02:48 PM) *
I call my F7 Bound Fire Spirit Zippo...guess what he does?!


Burning down several hundred acres of forest when you intended to light a campfire?
Mr. Mage
QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 7 2009, 08:58 AM) *
Burning down several hundred acres of forest when you intended to light a campfire?


I'll tell you one thing... Fire spirit in a super pressurized room with lots of plastics and electronics = fun for all who aren't in the building...
Kerenshara
QUOTE (Mr. Mage @ Aug 7 2009, 08:42 AM) *
I'll tell you one thing... Fire spirit in a super pressurized room with lots of plastics and electronics = fun for all who aren't in the building...

Now, here's to 20,000¥ question of the day:

Does it actually use up a service every time you get him to re-warm your soy-kaff?
Mr. Mage
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Aug 7 2009, 09:57 AM) *
Now, here's to 20,000¥ question of the day:

Does it actually use up a service every time you get him to re-warm your soy-kaff?


hmmm....that's a good question....

The way I play my character is that he relies on Magic over tech, and I have been known to summon a small F1 or 2 Fire spirit to light my stove or fireplace.... but that's usually not bound...and I soak up Drain pretty well so that summoning a F2 is almost always free...
McAllister
I dunno. I believe it's possible to call your bound fire spirit to you, hold a cigarette up against him (or hold your soykaf over his head, etc. etc.) and then dismiss him without using a service. If it's got mental attributes higher than 2 there's a chance it'll sigh and roll its ember-like eyes at you, but that's the price you pay.
Ravor
Aye, but then you have to ask yourself whether or not spirits have lives outside of being summoned, do they really exist in the metaplanes in their "downtime" or does a Mage create them at the moment of summoning. If the answer is the former I think it would lead to a pissed off spirit after awhile as it gets called from it's bath, dinner, private time for no real reason and doesn't even get any closer to becoming free of its bounds.

And if the answer is the latter and the spirit's personality is formed from the Mage's subconsience mind, how would the Mage feel about being little more than a slave?

However, with that said, I think summoning a ( Force 1 ) Spirit to light your cigar or warm your soykaf is a fragging cool idea, I suppose a flamebolt spell would probably do the trick as well, but even casting it at ( Force 1 ) might be too much for what we want here, perhaps allow Mages to cast ( Force 0 ) spells for such minor effects?
Mr. Mage
QUOTE (Ravor @ Aug 7 2009, 12:33 PM) *
Aye, but then you have to ask yourself whether or not spirits have lives outside of being summoned, do they really exist in the metaplanes in their "downtime" or does a Mage create them at the moment of summoning. If the answer is the former I think it would lead to a pissed off spirit after awhile as it gets called from it's bath, dinner, private time for no real reason and doesn't even get any closer to becoming free of its bounds.

And if the answer is the latter and the spirit's personality is formed from the Mage's subconsience mind, how would the Mage feel about being little more than a slave?

However, with that said, I think summoning a ( Force 1 ) Spirit to light your cigar or warm your soykaf is a fragging cool idea, I suppose a flamebolt spell would probably do the trick as well, but even casting it at ( Force 1 ) might be too much for what we want here, perhaps allow Mages to cast ( Force 0 ) spells for such minor effects?


My GM plays that I actually have a limited number of Spirits which are my "Friends" and even gives them different attitudes (they're all pretty friendly)..... My Earth Spirit, for instance, is always overjoyous when he gets to smash stuff...which is why he loves being a F6 or higher (10 in Str and Bod ftw!)
Ravor
Aye, but are they "real", or is their personalities a reflection of your inner mind? silly.gif
McAllister
Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
Ravor
True, but what I meant is do the Spirits exist before they are summoned.
McAllister
Well, Mr. Serious Face, when you get right down to it I think the only difference between a reflection of my inner mind and the Astral Plane is that a reflection of my inner mind only comes from MY mind, whereas the Astral plane is the combined reflection of the inner minds of all metahumans + all other organisms dual-natured, sapient and/or otherwise living + The Earth.

For example, all spirits automatically know whether in your past dealings with spirits you've been Naughty or Nice. This is because all spirits are, in part, a reflection of Santa Claus' inner mind. Or is it because Santa Claus is a reflection of a billion metahumans' minds? Either way, you get the gist.
Ravor
A third possiblity is that the spirits know if you've been naughty or nice because you know the answer. silly.gif
CanRay
You know, we keep asking the Mages and Shamans these questions, when we should be asking the Spirits.

So, who's up for a random "Spirit on the Street" Interview?
Ravor
Sure, but would the Spirit even know the truth? And if it did, would it tell us the truth?
Mr. Mage
QUOTE (Ravor @ Aug 7 2009, 01:31 PM) *
True, but what I meant is do the Spirits exist before they are summoned.


Well...as far as I know....according to my GM, they do exist beforehand, albeit on the Astral Plane only...but hey, different people believe different things....
Chrysalis
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 7 2009, 08:12 PM) *
You know, we keep asking the Mages and Shamans these questions, when we should be asking the Spirits.

So, who's up for a random "Spirit on the Street" Interview?



Most of mine seem to hold plackards saying, "Will do tasks for karma."
CanRay
Then there's "Sleazy" the Free Spirit who'll give Nuyen for Karma...

But no one wants to know what he does with it. vegm.gif
RunnerPaul
QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Jul 8 2009, 04:47 PM) *
No one has mentioned bringing their towel?

I did once, a long time ago, in another thread:

QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Mar 19 2005, 03:40 AM) *
A towel is about the most massively useful thing a shadowrunner can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold glaiciers of the Athabaskan Council Tribal Lands; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of Caribbean League, inhaling the heady sea vapors; you can sleep under it beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert sands of the Pueblo Corporate Council; use it to sail a miniraft down the Orinoco River when trying to infiltrate the Proteus Arcoblock; wet it for use in hand-to-hand combat; wrap it round your head to ward off Neuro-stun VIII or avoid the gaze of the Greater Western Dragon Traal (a mind-bogglingly stupid paracritter, as far as dragons go, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you - daft as a brush, but very very ravenous); you can wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off with it if it still seems to be clean enough. More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some reason, if a wageslave discovers that a runner has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in possession of a pocket secretary, credstick, APDS ammo, Panther Assault Cannon, ally spirit, GPS reciver, Fairlight Excalibur, ball of monowire, dikoted Ares Viper Slivergun, acid-resistant armored longcoat, Steel Lynx drone etc., etc. Furthermore, the wageslave will then happily lend the shadowrunner any of these or a dozen other items that the runner might accidentally have "lost". What the wageslave will think is that any man who can run the length and breadth of the shadows, go SINless, get screwed by their Mr. Johnson, struggle against terrible odds, win through and still know where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with.

Chrysalis
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