I was reading Street Magic, and i caught myself wondering: Can mundanes have pacts (non binding of course) with Free Spirits?
It seems so in "Spirit Pact" Quality, but many free spirits can Drain Karma from targets or such, or so i understood. I was wondering, can't a mundade be found by a free spirit and be offered a pact, for example, to be a vessel of the spirit's Hidden Life? Nothing special happens to the spirit if the vessel dies, but it's a good defense as it makes it harder to be banished or hurt. So, would this work? if so, How?
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QUOTE (Garou @ Feb 2 2010, 01:08 PM) 
I was reading Street Magic, and i caught myself wondering: Can mundanes have pacts (non binding of course) with Free Spirits?
It seems so in "Spirit Pact" Quality, but many free spirits can Drain Karma from targets or such, or so i understood. I was wondering, can't a mundade be found by a free spirit and be offered a pact, for example, to be a vessel of the spirit's Hidden Life? Nothing special happens to the spirit if the vessel dies, but it's a good defense as it makes it harder to be banished or hurt. So, would this work? if so, How?
It seems so in "Spirit Pact" Quality, but many free spirits can Drain Karma from targets or such, or so i understood. I was wondering, can't a mundade be found by a free spirit and be offered a pact, for example, to be a vessel of the spirit's Hidden Life? Nothing special happens to the spirit if the vessel dies, but it's a good defense as it makes it harder to be banished or hurt. So, would this work? if so, How?
Yes a Free Spirit can do a pact with a mundane.
Pg 108 from Street Magic
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Free spirits with the Spirit Pact power can enter into pacts with voluntary sapient creatures, usually magicians, though each individual spirit can usually only offer one or two different varieties of pact.
Usually, but not always. They just have to be sapient. So Nagas and pixies can do it too.
And yes hidden life will work with a mundane and if the the vessel is killed nothing bad happens to the spirit.
Pg 110 Street Magic
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If the hidden life holder is destroyed, the life force returns to the spirit, and the spirit is treated normally.
In fact, mundanes probably have more karma to spare than a typical mage.
Nice to know. So, can a mundane seek a pact? Is it possible to "find" a free spirit with such power through legwork?
QUOTE (Garou @ Feb 2 2010, 04:26 PM)
Nice to know. So, can a mundane seek a pact? Is it possible to "find" a free spirit with such power through legwork?
With the right legwork, you can discover the free spirit's true name and summon it. Might make the spirit a tad upset though. They don't like people knowing their true names.
actually, it is technically impossible for a mundane to enter into a spirit pact. this is because spirit pacts result in the spirit pact quality, which is only available to awakened individuals (who, by the way, don't have to be magicians; a naga or a vampire are awakened, and so is an adept)
that said, that seems like a pretty lousy rule to allow to interfere with your fun. if it would be more fun to allow mundanes to make spirit pacts (and imo, it is), then i recommend you tell that rule to slot off.
that said, that seems like a pretty lousy rule to allow to interfere with your fun. if it would be more fun to allow mundanes to make spirit pacts (and imo, it is), then i recommend you tell that rule to slot off.
QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 4 2010, 12:26 AM)
actually, it is technically impossible for a mundane to enter into a spirit pact. this is because spirit pacts result in the spirit pact quality, which is only available to awakened individuals (who, by the way, don't have to be magicians; a naga or a vampire are awakened, and so is an adept)
I would say that the rule just means that Spirit Pacts are not allowed at Character creation.
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