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Sicarius
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250099,00.html

nope. just a coincidence.
Thain
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The Fire Department said it did not know which unit the fire started in, whether the fire was intentionally set or what caused the fire.


The Police Department also denies all reports that a dwarf with a cyberarm, an troll with a panther assault cannon, and two humans with katana were seen nearby. The Police Department also denies that they were seen purchasing several gallons of fuel at a nearby petrol station.

Coca-Cola Beverage Company, LLC denies rumors that PoliceCo (a wholly owned subsideary of Coca-Cola Beverage Company, LLC) might not be pursuing this investigation to its fullest.

I'm Ric Romero. Back to you, Nancy.
Fix-it
QUOTE (Thain)
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The Fire Department said it did not know which unit the fire started in, whether the fire was intentionally set or what caused the fire.


The Police Department also denies all reports that a dwarf with a cyberarm, an troll with a panther assault cannon, and two humans with katana were seen nearby. The Police Department also denies that they were seen purchasing several gallons of fuel at a nearby petrol station.

shit. they did see us.

uh... i'll be laying low for a while.

/gotta get this cyberarm covered
underaneonhalo
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happened about 1:48 p-m, a little more than an hour after the guilty verdict was read against Joya Williams in federal court.
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It wasn't immediately clear if Williams was home at the time of the fire. Her attorney, Janice Singer, said she was trying to reach her late today. Singer said her client's apartment was destroyed in the fire.


Sooooo, any bets on wether or not this is a pathetic attempt to fake her own death and skip town? I mean it'd be about as clever as her attempt to sell coke secrets.
Kagetenshi
That was my thought. That or destroy evidence.

~J
fistandantilus4.0
If she's already convicted, isn't it a bit late for that?
Kagetenshi
Ah, missed that part.

~J
ShadowDragon8685
Not really too late. After all, what're they gonna do - look for a corpse to throw in jail? smile.gif
Kagetenshi
Too late to destroy evidence, he means. Unless it's evidence of a different crime, but even then, the conviction would presumably mean they'd stop digging through her stuff.

~J
ShadowDragon8685
To hell with the evidence. The only thing I'd be worried about would be

a: Faking my own death
b: Skipping town.



They can pin the Whitechapel Murders on me for all I care, as long as I'm not wearing the face that gets pinned. And if that face is officially deceased, so much the better.
Glyph
Well, her old place may be fire-damaged, but at least with the guilty verdict, she'll be moving into new accomodations. nyahnyah.gif
Snow_Fox
If you guys aren't familiar with the case, she was a secretary for Coke who pocketed the secret formula and then approached Pepsi about it. Pepsi promptly contacted Coka and the FBI and and she walked into the sting.

Then at trial her two chummmers pled guilty and appeared as witnesses for the prosecution against her.
mfb
dumb secretary. like Pepsi didn't figure out that 'secret formula' twenty years ago.
Sicarius
actually, Pepsi was hot to buy it, until they found out it was actually the recipe for NEW coke
Kagetenshi
New Coke is Pepsi.

~J
ShadowDragon8685
That's why she shoulden't have let them onto the fact that it was the new coke until after they had bitten, thus implicating themselves and preventing them from going to the feds.
emo samurai
Why would Pepsi call the feds? Sounds really retarded, unless they don't think they'll benefit from having the Coke formula.
fistandantilus4.0
How about "Business Ethic"? I know it sounnds crazy to all of us who play Shadowrun, but it does actually happen from time to time.
Herald of Verjigorm
Coke and Pepsi both sell because they are different enough that nearly all of the cola appreciating market likes one of them. Coke wasted money creating a sweeter cola a while back that failed to attract any business away from Pepsi. Pepsi may have easily realized that there is no chance that a new Pepsi cola product will make a significant change in the followings.

The only group to really benefit from the exact recipe mixes would be a discount brand that can then advertise "Tastes just like the big name, but at big savings."
Draug
Except, you know, Coca-Cola would firebomb them too...
emo samurai
Coke isn't patented, so if they had it, they could legally produce it. The reason it isn't patented is because patents last for maybe 75 years after the death of their creators. They want the secret to last forever.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (emo samurai @ Feb 3 2007, 11:33 PM)
Why would Pepsi call the feds? Sounds really retarded

Unless you think about it for a few minutes.

First off, if Pepsi wanted Coke's formula they'd have it. They probably do have it, at least to within a small margin of error—Pepsi can afford to employ a number of quite competent chemists and food scientists.

Second off, legal trouble for no benefit. The whole thing could have been a sting operation—although it would be a pretty clear case of entrapment, there's still no reason to run the risk—both because of point 1 above, and because Pepsi has a serious disadvantage trying to market Coke. Coke has a gigantic name-brand recognition amongst the people who like the taste of Coke. Why fight an uphill battle when they can sell Pepsi, where they have all the cards? If Coke gets dramatically more popular they'll have more incentive, but for now—none at all.

Third off, it's good precedent. They rely on trade secrets as well, so the more trade secrets are enforced, even for their competition, the better off they are.

I think I had some more points, but I'm really tired. Suffice it to say that IMO this was a no-brainer and a painfully obvious reaction on Pepsi's part.

Also, emo, you are deeply confused between patents and copyright. Patents expire 20 years from filing or 17 from issue, the creator's death is irrelevant. That said, you're correct: as long as the formula is a trade secret, they just have to keep it protected and it stays theirs. A patent must be published for universal viewing, and becomes unprotected after the patent term.

~J
Snow_Fox
I think emo is confusing a patent for an invention with copywrite for litterature.

an added reason for Pepsi to do it- good PR- they can have the cola wars running but it's all marketing. if it comes to real crime then they can say "See we are a good law abiding corp who has a friendly rivalry."
Coke gets hit by a corporate spy and Pepsi reveals it.(I still like Coke better than Pepsi)
Wounded Ronin
Herald has caught t3h corr3ct. Coke was losing market share to Pepsi and they figured this was because Pepsi is sweeter. So, for a short time they replaced Coke with something which would later be called "Coke II" (which is still available in the FSM, by the way) which was sweeter and more like Pepsi. Coke's sales bombed because their original customers all preferred Coke so Coke reinstated "Cokacola Classic" and seperated the sweet stuff off as "Coke II".

Coke II is still sold in the FSM because people just like sweet stuff here and most people don't care about the history of Coke.
Ed Simons
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
New Coke is Pepsi.

~J

No, New Coke is flat Pepsi with a bad aftertaste. nyahnyah.gif
hyzmarca
You don't fake your own death by setting your home on fire. That's amateurish. You fake your own death by taking your spouse on a boat trip, jumping overboard past the three mile limit, and planting divorce papers in that spouse's desk.
ShadowDragon8685
FSM?
Oracle
Flying Spaghetti Monster??
PBTHHHHT
To the posts above, don't forget the Uniform Trade Secrets Act and other laws that protects those who reasonably try to protect their trade secrets.
lorechaser
Also there is the fact that if Pepsi (as though Pepsi was this one guy, that made decisions) would have a reasonably hard time keeping this a secret. If they do buy the formula, someone has to produce it. And someone's going to say "Gee, that tastes a lot like Coke, how did you come up with it?"

And at some point, someone that doesn't like the idea of stealing the formula will get involved. You can't keep something a secret at a company that size for a reasonable amount of time.
Kagetenshi
Federated States of Micronesia.

~J
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