Browncoatone
Feb 20 2009, 03:13 AM
So I've always considered the .22, .25, .38, and 9mm calibers to be "light" pistols. And likewise the .357, .44, .45, .50 & larger to be "heavy" pistols.
Then along came the .40 Caliber, and with it the question of whether the .40 cal is a "light" or "heavy" pistol.
So how about it? Light or Heavy?
Ed_209a
Feb 20 2009, 05:08 AM
If I have to be locked down into only one, I would have to say heavy.
I would rather talk in terms of a range of weapons. With a .40, you can give up barrel length and still effectively have 9mm ballistics, so a compact, but full-damage light pistol might be .40cal.
On the other hand, a higher-than-usual capacity heavy pistol might also be .40 cal.
jago668
Feb 20 2009, 06:31 AM
Too add more to it, I would probably consider the .22 and .25 hold outs and not actually light pistols. Just myself. On the .40 I would say probably heavy.
counterveil
Feb 20 2009, 06:50 AM
I voted heavy. Godz do I love .40s. It's a nice median in between 9mm (which always feel like toys to me) and .45s, which I'm just too weak to fire for any length of time exceeding 3 clips.
Don't even get me started on .357s.
Fuchs
Feb 20 2009, 08:15 AM
QUOTE (counterveil @ Feb 20 2009, 07:50 AM)

I voted heavy. Godz do I love .40s. It's a nice median in between 9mm (which always feel like toys to me) and .45s, which I'm just too weak to fire for any length of time exceeding 3 clips.
Don't even get me started on .357s.
Hey! No knocking the .357! I love my S&W M686.
InfinityzeN
Feb 20 2009, 07:07 PM
.40 is a heavy. You want to see a high cap .40, look at the SA XD(m) in .40. Looking for a high cap .45? Look at the XD45 (13+1 rounds of 45ACP?!)
Adarael
Feb 20 2009, 07:13 PM
I'm with the heavy crowd on this. Also, if you wanna get a really heavy pistol without delving into .50AE turf, look into the ballistics on the 10mm Auto round. Shockingly powerful.
counterveil
Feb 20 2009, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Feb 20 2009, 08:15 AM)

Hey! No knocking the .357! I love my S&W M686.
Not knocking it, only bemoaning my complete inability to fire the damn awesome bang bang due to the kick. I think I can handle one cylinder before my arm is just done
InfinityzeN
Feb 20 2009, 10:51 PM
QUOTE (Adarael @ Feb 20 2009, 02:13 PM)

I'm with the heavy crowd on this. Also, if you wanna get a really heavy pistol without delving into .50AE turf, look into the ballistics on the 10mm Auto round. Shockingly powerful.
10mm Auto is a great round. Used to have a Glock in that round, but I ditched it when I switched over to XDs. Thinking about picking up the new XD(m) in 9mm as a general target gun. Can't get much better then 19+1 capacity, how is that for a SR gun? A light pistol with 20 rounds.
Thadeus Bearpaw
Feb 20 2009, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (Browncoatone @ Feb 19 2009, 09:13 PM)

So I've always considered the .22, .25, .38, and 9mm calibers to be "light" pistols. And likewise the .357, .44, .45, .50 & larger to be "heavy" pistols.
Then along came the .40 Caliber, and with it the question of whether the .40 cal is a "light" or "heavy" pistol.
So how about it? Light or Heavy?
I know this isn't balistically scienftic on my part. But I got with how bad the gun kicks when I shoot it, firing a .44 has always kicked to me far worse than smaller guns. I know there are a huge number of variables that go into that but for me it's all about how I feel when i use it.
crash2029
Feb 21 2009, 02:30 AM
QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Feb 20 2009, 02:07 PM)

.40 is a heavy. You want to see a high cap .40, look at the SA XD(m) in .40. Looking for a high cap .45? Look at the XD45 (13+1 rounds of 45ACP?!)
Another high capacity .45 is the Canadian Para-Ordinance P14, a 13-round double stack M1911a1 pattern autoloader. It is a bit heavy weighing in at ~1070g, though it is quite offset by the fact that you basically have a M1911a1 with double the capacity.
jago668
Feb 21 2009, 08:08 AM
QUOTE (crash2029 @ Feb 20 2009, 10:30 PM)

Another high capacity .45 is the Canadian Para-Ordinance P14, a 13-round double stack M1911a1 pattern autoloader. It is a bit heavy weighing in at ~1070g, though it is quite offset by the fact that you basically have a M1911a1 with double the capacity.
The weight is good, when you run out just start pistol whipping them. =)
InfinityzeN
Feb 21 2009, 03:40 PM
Actually Colt made a 1911 with a 13 round double stack mag. The single stack ones were what was ordered by the Army though and they are by far the most common.
crash2029
Feb 22 2009, 02:27 AM
QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Feb 21 2009, 11:40 AM)

Actually Colt made a 1911 with a 13 round double stack mag. The single stack ones were what was ordered by the Army though and they are by far the most common.
I was not aware of that, thank you. I do love the m1911a1 pistol. It is probably my foavrite gun.
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