QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Jul 15 2009, 06:39 PM)

Hm... my opinions:
1.
a. Sure... explicitly stated in the rules: p 57, Street Magic. Possession spirits get it too.
b. doesn't matter if they are lower or higher or anything. The spirits mental attributes are used.
2. (The summoners magic gets overwritten by the spirits force)
a. Yes, but no. HE doesn't do anything with the new "force". He just commands the spirit.
b. Nope... because he can't cast anymore. The Spirit may (if it can use its innate spells and powers at that level). Also i don't think spirits like to overcast... maybe if you ask nice.
c. The Spirit... yes.
d. If it REALLYREALLYREALLY likes you... MAYBE... but unlikely.
3.
a. when the spirit leaves you are yourself again. Your edge etc. should be untouched.
b. THAT a spirit will never do for you... hm maybe your ally spirit...
So my point is: you don't just get some buffs. You can watch and direct the spirit... but the Spirit uses your body. You yourself can't cast anymore, or do anything. The Spirit doesn't get your skills, your knowledge, nothing.
Thanks for the reply, Summer, because that's a different insight into the scenario than I was thinking regarding Channeling. I was approaching it as if you had total control, but it does seem to be more of a shared control. I was basing the idea of having full control with Channeling off of this quote from
The Possesion FAQ: "2) If a mage with the Channeling metamagic ability possesses himself with one of his spirits, can he wield magic?
A: Yes, the mage's special attributes override the spirit's special attributes and the mage can cast spells, conjure spirits, enchant objects, etc. (Otherwise, there is no point for Channeling.) The mage uses his own Magic attribute (not the spirit's)." I actually don't see textual support for the FAQ claim but I didn't search the whole thread for reasoning. The text in Street Magic all seems to indicate that your mental and special stats are overridden by the possessing spirit regardless of whether you have Channeling or not. But that would seem to make spellcasting while possessed impossible outside of commanding Spirits of Man to use Innate Spell, which doesn't seem to be the intent.
I'm now thinking that the answers to my questions are:
1a.) Yes, physical stats are 17.
1b.) Yes and no. Yes the spirit has it's own stats when you get it to do something with it's own abilities (spirit powers, potential skill use, etc.) but not when you use your own abilities (your own mentally derived skills like First Aid, abilities such as spellcasting, etc.) In those cases you don't use the Spirits mental or special attributes, you use your own. Which basically answers all of 2 and 3. And for passive events (such as resisting spells) it is clearly written that you use the lesser of the stats between your own and the spirit's.
Thanks for redirecting my thinking.