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Pepsi Jedi
QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jul 8 2010, 01:45 AM) *
Shadowrun's setting has pretty much mastered the full-sensory experience courtesy of simsense. Cyberlimbs take full advantage of that fact. If anything, you gain full control over how sensitive you want your artificial limbs to be; numbing it completely if you need to do something like pick up a hot pan or redline it for a little romantic fun. With that kind of technology around and in very common use, I see people having a lot fewer reservations about going chrome, especially if it would be an overall life improvement for them.

I doubt if I'd consider replacing my eyes though unless it was something really serious. Not because I'd be afraid of the technology, but just because I have a phobia about anything dealing with my eyes. Even the thought of contact lenses freak me out. But that's pretty rare considering all the people out there who wear contacts or undergo laser eye surgery.


Not all that rare. I'm like that too. My eyes are very very sensitive. Heck in school when I was in theather, they'd come towards me with the eye make up and my eyes would just flood with tears.

I tried contacts ONCE. Ugg. That was enough.

I can't even use eye drops with out freaking out. Just typing this post has my eyes watering. lol

It's part of the reason I WOULD switch out. I'd get cyber eyes quick. Then just upgrade as life went on if I needed to.

Thing is alot of people are ignoring the fact that there's a huge gulf between "Standard consumer chrome" and "Shadowrunner combat chrome" Just normal cyber eyes, maybe enhanced vision, telescopic sight, AR included, with night sight is no big deal. They specifically state it's a "Lunch time procedure" that in 2072 it's common for people with perfectly working eyes, to upgrade to cyber.

Going full cyberlimbs with weapons and dermal plating is much different. All the big major major stuff is going to be more invasive.
Redcrow
For my game Standard Grade cyberware tends to be very obvious and there is a stigma associated with having it depending on the social atmosphere. While the local street scum might think its wiz, the yuppie wageslaves hanging out at the hot nightclub down the street are more likely to turn their noses up at anyone with obvious cyber. With each (up)Grade (Alpha, Beta, Delta) version of cyber it becomes more difficult to detect and so there is less of a problem mingling and interacting with certain social circles. Its just viewed as the lower the class of cyber the lower the class of the individual that has it.
simplexio
LASIK done, i couldn't see more than 10cm without glasses so it helped. Worst thing with LASIK was smell.

Personally i think that most people today would get anything that doesn't replace meat. At least I would like to be faster, stronger and more durable without spending half of my life in gym (and way to have better memory would help a lot).
Tiny Deev
If I saw that it has been succesfull in about 90% of cases, I will stand in line for cybernetic enhancement. If you can show me in worked in monkeys, I'll consider it. I hate my body, eventhough its already pretty good. Everyone should aspire to better themselves, and I would consider augmentation. Especially if I can get cyberarms that can do the cool things they do in Deus Ex 3. smile.gif

Tattoos and piercings used to be almost non-existant, only for the criminals and such. Then it became a sign of how tough you are, if you have a tattoo you must be bad people. Then it became cool, then it became awesome. Now its art, and weird if you DON'T have a tattoo. And thats what, 50 to 60 years or so?

I think the same thing will happen with body augmentation, maybe a bit slower, maybe a hundred years.

Also, in the Shadowrun universe, its all about efficiency. If you can type faster, flip burgers better, shoot more accurate then the next person, you're hired. Augmentation is great for everyone. If you're destined to be a typist, and you can crack out 2000 keys a second with these news cyberhands-with-prehensile-fingertips, why not get them?
Yerameyahu
It's still weird to have a tattoo. wink.gif And there's a big difference between functional replacements and cosmetics. But you're still right. smile.gif

Also, http://amultiverse.com/files/comics-rss/20...Augment-Hut.png
nezumi
Funny thing is, we've been reading a lot of Eclipse Phase, and my wife has said she'd happily go for a full-body replacement.

Sometimes bodies are just more trouble than they're worth.
Brazilian_Shinobi
QUOTE (nezumi @ Jul 8 2010, 10:02 AM) *
Funny thing is, we've been reading a lot of Eclipse Phase, and my wife has said she'd happily go for a full-body replacement.

Sometimes bodies are just more trouble than they're worth.


Yeah, because it is better leak oil once in a while than leak blood every 2 fortnights, right? cyber.gif
Dumori
QUOTE (Tiny Deev @ Jul 8 2010, 10:57 AM) *
If I saw that it has been succesfull in about 90% of cases, I will stand in line for cybernetic enhancement. If you can show me in worked in monkeys, I'll consider it. I hate my body, eventhough its already pretty good. Everyone should aspire to better themselves, and I would consider augmentation. Especially if I can get cyberarms that can do the cool things they do in Deus Ex 3. smile.gif

Tattoos and piercings used to be almost non-existant, only for the criminals and such. Then it became a sign of how tough you are, if you have a tattoo you must be bad people. Then it became cool, then it became awesome. Now its art, and weird if you DON'T have a tattoo. And thats what, 50 to 60 years or so?

I think the same thing will happen with body augmentation, maybe a bit slower, maybe a hundred years.

Also, in the Shadowrun universe, its all about efficiency. If you can type faster, flip burgers better, shoot more accurate then the next person, you're hired. Augmentation is great for everyone. If you're destined to be a typist, and you can crack out 2000 keys a second with these news cyberhands-with-prehensile-fingertips, why not get them?

If cyber arms helped removed some of the falability of human arms I'd be all for it. Knowing I have just that tiny bit more conntroll. As a fencer that's a bonus and as a PC gamer it helps too.
Jaid
QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jul 8 2010, 12:45 AM) *
Shadowrun's setting has pretty much mastered the full-sensory experience courtesy of simsense. Cyberlimbs take full advantage of that fact. If anything, you gain full control over how sensitive you want your artificial limbs to be; numbing it completely if you need to do something like pick up a hot pan or redline it for a little romantic fun. With that kind of technology around and in very common use, I see people having a lot fewer reservations about going chrome, especially if it would be an overall life improvement for them.

I doubt if I'd consider replacing my eyes though unless it was something really serious. Not because I'd be afraid of the technology, but just because I have a phobia about anything dealing with my eyes. Even the thought of contact lenses freak me out. But that's pretty rare considering all the people out there who wear contacts or undergo laser eye surgery.

sure, but if you could be under anesthesia for the whole time, would it be all that bad?
CeeJay
QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 8 2010, 07:39 PM) *
sure, but if you could be under anesthesia for the whole time, would it be all that bad?

Only if you are afraid of being under anesthesia, too biggrin.gif

At least in 4th edition they got rid of the part about cybereyes, where you had to take them out regularly to clean the eyeballs. I mean, that has allways been a "don't buy" argument for me...

-CJ

Pepsi Jedi
I had an uncle with a glass eye. He used to pop that thing out and put it in peoples drinks all the time.

I imagine once you get used to it, it's no big thing. (( the cyber eyes. Not the uncle putting his eyeball in your drink. That's groady all the way around))
Draco18s
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Jul 9 2010, 04:05 AM) *
I had an uncle with a glass eye. He used to pop that thing out and put it in peoples drinks all the time.


My dad did something like that, a friend of his asked him to "keep an eye on my motorcycle." When the friend came back he found my dad's glass eye on the motorcycle.

(My dad doesn't take his eye out all that often; I've never seen him do it)
nezumi
I gotta admit, there have been times I've been tempted to put out an eye just so I could get an awesome glass eye. Maybe one with an embedded laser, or a picture of a smiley face or something. That said, that bit about 'putting out an eye' stopped me from actually doing it.
Jaid
QUOTE (nezumi @ Jul 9 2010, 09:47 AM) *
I gotta admit, there have been times I've been tempted to put out an eye just so I could get an awesome glass eye. Maybe one with an embedded laser, or a picture of a smiley face or something. That said, that bit about 'putting out an eye' stopped me from actually doing it.

lucky for you, with shadowrun technology you can get an extra eye, so you don't have to remove the other two! (note: you may have to carve a hole in your body elsewhere, but at least it isn't your eyes!)
Brazilian_Shinobi
QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 9 2010, 05:14 PM) *
lucky for you, with shadowrun technology you can get an extra eye, so you don't have to remove the other two! (note: you may have to carve a hole in your body elsewhere, but at least it isn't your eyes!)


That is so MORE comforting... rotfl.gif
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