Ah, I see. You have nothing to say that is relevant to the discussion. You should have said so sooner.

Are you even capable of having a point? Or do you just parrot back whatever you just read?

Out of interest, how are the players handling their new "instant PC generator"? There's got to be some golden runs out of some of these.

-Tir.

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I can see its relevance where you evidently cannot or do not want to acknowledge its relevance.

If I do not have a point, then neither do you.

My point is that Shadowrun allows you to sell your basic competencies for extra build points, while some other systems do the opposite: gift you with (aka "force upon you") increases in all basic competencies as you advance.

Just for the sake of entertainment, what was your point? In a sentence or less, if you can.

My point is that Shadowrun does allow you some basic competencies via defaulting and in at least one edition of Shadowrun you do get some increase in competence as you become more experienced.