Warlordtheft
Oct 4 2010, 03:57 PM
Leave to the players to come up with something leaviing me with a WTF expression.
The questions are regarding the spirit binding power. How would it affect a waterborn craft, when the boat (In this case a Jetski type vehicle) is binded to the surface of the water?
My question to DS is:
Does this result in a crash test?
What impact does it have on passengers?
Binding requires no roll, but to break free requires a STR+BOD check. There is no mention of Vehicles in the power so in theory a vehicle can't take it.
Lastly-can an object (a vehicle) be a victim of this power? THe text of the binding power seems focused on living creatures.
My ruling was that it did stop the vehicle, but caused no damage. I did have the mook make a str check to keep himself from face planting the handle bars (he failed).
Neraph
Oct 4 2010, 04:18 PM
I would say that the vehicle would immediately be able to break free - the momentum from a car driving is outside the normal scope of that power. However, the brief amount of time that it was affected I would have the driver do a Crash Test.
You did a good spur-of-the-moment ruling though.
Warlordtheft
Oct 7 2010, 03:49 PM
I read the three sentence paragraph describing that power. I tend to agree with you. At least it would involve an immediate break check with the speed of the vehicle (1 die for every 5m and + 1 per point of body) vs the bod+Magic of the spirit.
Neraph
Oct 7 2010, 03:57 PM
That seems like more bookkeeping than needed - just auto-break the vehicle if it's moving at a decent speed and make a Crash Test instead.
TheScrivener
Oct 7 2010, 04:04 PM
I'm not convinced that binding would work the same way on water - I'd say a watercraft would slow down, due to friction with the water stuck to the boat's bottom, but probably not enough to force a crash test unless there's already some chop. Ground craft, yeah, crash away, if they don't have smart tires at least.
Badmoodguy88
Oct 7 2010, 10:15 PM
If this were a fast jetski, speedboat, or hydrofoil I could see it having problems.
pbangarth
Oct 8 2010, 12:01 AM
I think it would have exactly the opposite effect. A thin layer of water molecules would be stuck to the bottom of the craft and create a molecule-level smooth surface to glide across the unattached water. Similar in effect to the Movement power of critters, I would guess.
You get stuck to a solid because the molecules are in a lattice that hangs together.
Now, I suppose one could argue that the spell has an area of effect, and that it creates a semi-circular glob of attached water beneath the boat. That might slow it down. A matter of interpretation of the exact nature of the binding.
Yerameyahu
Oct 8 2010, 01:14 AM
It does seem to be intended for living beings, and liquids probably do not count as surfaces.
Neraph
Oct 8 2010, 04:25 AM
Ahh, Yerameyahu, you're making the tension in here raise...
Yerameyahu
Oct 8 2010, 02:22 PM

You're all wet, Neraph.
Warlordtheft
Oct 8 2010, 03:05 PM
That was bad...on the surface of it even!
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