Full Version: Cyberpunk 2020, coming to your PC
Just in case Shadowrun Returns was not enough goodness for you, something new from the guys who made The Witcher 1+2: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/30/cd-proje...g-is-cyberpunk/
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one. With the amount of depth and complexity in the Witcher series, I have high hopes that CD Project Red can put out a great cyberpunk game. Even better than Deus Ex: Human Revolution and definitely better than that steaming pile of Syndicate.
Probably less in the way of collectible porn cards though.
I'm surprised they are bothering with a PC version, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson. I suppose it's cheap for them as their dev team is more familiar with PC programming. Still, I have to wonder if it's not just out of habit or something. Seems to make dubious business sense.
Hopefully not a bad shooter like Syndicate . .
If it's a GOOD shooter, i'll be content with it. .
If it's a GOOD shooter, i'll be content with it. .
QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jun 1 2012, 06:11 AM) 
I'm surprised they are bothering with a PC version, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson. I suppose it's cheap for them as their dev team is more familiar with PC programming. Still, I have to wonder if it's not just out of habit or something. Seems to make dubious business sense.
What do you mean?
Probably thinking PC Gaming is dead or such.
No, it just requires some thought occasionally so not all console games (looking at you, Xbox) do well on the PC. Rightly so, I'm sick of dumbed down controls when developers are lazy sacks when it comes to porting.
QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 1 2012, 02:45 PM)
No, it just requires some thought occasionally so not all console games (looking at you, Xbox) do well on the PC. Rightly so, I'm sick of dumbed down controls when developers are lazy sacks when it comes to porting.
CD Project Red are PC developers first, consoles second, so that shouldn't be an issue. The Witcher 2 was their first game on console, ported/customized/optimized after the PC version was done and released.
I wasn't a fan of the games, but I would definately agree they were not console ports.
QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ Jun 1 2012, 09:02 PM)
CD Project Red are PC developers first, consoles second, so that shouldn't be an issue. The Witcher 2 was their first game on console, ported/customized/optimized after the PC version was done and released.
And that's the only way it should ever be done . .
NEVER the other way around damn it <.<
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 1 2012, 05:40 PM)
And that's the only way it should ever be done . .
NEVER the other way around damn it <.<
NEVER the other way around damn it <.<
I'm a console gamer myself, but I honestly don't care what the lead platform is, as long as the time and care is taken to properly optimize/customize the ports to each individual system.
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 1 2012, 03:40 PM)
And that's the only way it should ever be done . .
NEVER the other way around damn it <.<
NEVER the other way around damn it <.<
I concur. Nothing is more angering than a terrible console port to PC.
QUOTE (Vegetaman @ Jun 2 2012, 04:02 PM)
I concur. Nothing is more angering than a terrible console port to PC.
Game that won't work on any system on release and no patches to fix it for a week?
And a bland design.
And bad controls that practically force you to play with a game pad or hate it . .
And no customization whatsoever in graphics or anything else . .
And bad controls that practically force you to play with a game pad or hate it . .
And no customization whatsoever in graphics or anything else . .
Funny that the choose 2020, with no new release in over a decade.
Probably because the license was cheap. 
Maybe they are fans of the game, too.
Bye
Thanee
Maybe they are fans of the game, too.
Bye
Thanee
Heh, who knows. I ran into a j2me game based on the setting once. Played like a Flashback clone (thanks to the keypad controls i never got past the second corporate cyborg you run into).
Man. Flashback, Out of this World, and... There was a third one. LOVED those games.
I have my doubts about this. I don't really care for the Witcher games; they play too much like a hack-n-slash and not enough like an RPG (which the games are advertised as). If they can get out of what they've done with Witcher (I didn't care at all for the main character, too emotionless, so-so voice acting on everyone) then maybe, maybe it'll be good. I'll be cautiously optimistic about this.
I just hope they have highway snow plows.
QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jun 4 2012, 12:25 PM)
I have my doubts about this. I don't really care for the Witcher games; they play too much like a hack-n-slash and not enough like an RPG (which the games are advertised as). If they can get out of what they've done with Witcher (I didn't care at all for the main character, too emotionless, so-so voice acting on everyone) then maybe, maybe it'll be good. I'll be cautiously optimistic about this.
You've got to be kidding me. The Witcher is about as RPG as it gets nowadays. What contemporary popular franchise is more RPG-like? Maybe Final Fantasy, in the sense that everyone is to some extent still taking turns in combat?
I mean, unless you're going to say that Jagged Alliance: Back In Action is moreso an RPG than The Witcher, because turns.
Fallout3/NewVegas maybe?
QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jun 4 2012, 06:25 PM)
I have my doubts about this. I don't really care for the Witcher games; they play too much like a hack-n-slash and not enough like an RPG (which the games are advertised as). If they can get out of what they've done with Witcher (I didn't care at all for the main character, too emotionless, so-so voice acting on everyone) then maybe, maybe it'll be good. I'll be cautiously optimistic about this.
Please tell me you're shitting me. It's got a conversation/role-playing system better than pretty damn much any game these days, Mass Effect included, and even if you "fail" a quest (so, you had to talk to a guy named Coleman? And you allowed the elven guerrillas to pick up their weapon shipment before? Whoops.), there's always some way to keep the storyline going.
Turn-based combat? Stats? It's not what makes a RPG.
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 5 2012, 09:31 AM)
Fallout3/NewVegas maybe?
Yeah, New Vegas is a decent RPG. I can't say a bad thing about Alpha Protocol (Obsidian's spy-fi game) either.
I have to say I enjoyed Alpha Protocol.
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 5 2012, 03:22 PM)
I have to say I enjoyed Alpha Protocol.
Me too. Storyline complexity made my head spin.
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 5 2012, 09:22 AM)
I have to say I enjoyed Alpha Protocol.
I loved Alpha Protocol as well. I thought it was criminally underrated by reviewers, all because Mass Effect 2 had thrown out skill-influenced aiming in RPG's for just straight FPS shooting. It was great example of what an RPG should be, both story- and action-wise. I was really sad when they announced there'd never be a sequel. I've always wanted a modern spy RPG and Alpha Protocol really delivered. I'm sad to think there may never be another game like it. Here's hoping Cyberpunk can sate that thirst. (I hope it's third-person too, cuz I hate playing from the first-person perspective.)
I completely agree. It's a game that really got dumped on for no good reason, and a sequel -- had it addressed some of the legit concerns raised about the original -- really could have been something really special.
On the bright side, Alpha Protocol got panned by the critics so badly that it's, at least, generally pretty cheap to find/buy, so it's easy to recommend to friends.
On the bright side, Alpha Protocol got panned by the critics so badly that it's, at least, generally pretty cheap to find/buy, so it's easy to recommend to friends.
yay or nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 11 2013, 10:17 PM)
yay or nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
Google wants me to give them my mobile phone number to view the video, sooo nay?
huh?
it's a youtube clip o.O
it only asks me to log into my youtube account to verify my age . .
try here then: http://www.cyberpunk.net/
it's a youtube clip o.O
it only asks me to log into my youtube account to verify my age . .
try here then: http://www.cyberpunk.net/
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 11 2013, 11:22 PM)
huh?
it's a youtube clip o.O
it only asks me to log into my youtube account to verify my age . .
try here then: http://www.cyberpunk.net/
it's a youtube clip o.O
it only asks me to log into my youtube account to verify my age . .
try here then: http://www.cyberpunk.net/
Yes, and it won't let me log in to my youtube account anymore without creating a google account, and to verify the google account it wants a mobile phone number. I hate google. Not even their search engine works properly anymore.
Thanks for the link, that was pretty freaking cool and if it's any indication of the game, it'll be one to look forward to.
QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Jan 11 2013, 08:27 AM)
Yes, and it won't let me log in to my youtube account anymore without creating a google account, and to verify the google account it wants a mobile phone number.
.... and you can skip that step. I've been doing it for my G+ account for months, now. Every few weeks they'll throw that at me during login, again. And I click the handy little "skip this for now" button at the bottom.
So it's the Cyberpunk 2020 computer RPG, brushed off and refit for the year 2077. New company, cool concept art, seem to be familiar with the core material.
Color me intrigued. Good find.
Color me intrigued. Good find.
And they didn't use action figures for the art! I'm impressed!!!
The bit of reading I did over at IGN on this during my morning getting ready for work routine shed some good light on the dev process I think. Direct quote from the managing director ripped off the website.
The whole statement, especially the bolded bit, made me smile.
Edit: Full story here
QUOTE ("Adam Badowski")
“In 2077 as we imagine it, technology will be so advanced that implants will fit in the tip of a needle, making modification easy. The decision to change will therefore be largely aesthetic and ostensibly harmless. Realskin synthetic skin looks real but is better than real. It’s soft, it has pores that subtly release sweat, but it is so much more. It’s amazing, those who adopt it look like pumped, modified dolls, because they are perfect, or some version of it. When people choose modification, they’re making a statement, they’re expressing a preference.”
“When somebody walks around with a chrome hand, it’s not because there’s some underlying technology that makes their hand look like that. It’s because they think chrome hands look cool. When somebody has a leg with servomotors, it’s because they choose to look extreme (like the best new carbon fiber bike). And their choice is completely based on style, it extends and enriches their style. You’ll get access to a rich arsenal of firearms, but if you want to have blades because they look cool, go for it. All these elements will make it into Cyberpunk 2077. 'Style Over Substance' is our core theme, after all.”
“When somebody walks around with a chrome hand, it’s not because there’s some underlying technology that makes their hand look like that. It’s because they think chrome hands look cool. When somebody has a leg with servomotors, it’s because they choose to look extreme (like the best new carbon fiber bike). And their choice is completely based on style, it extends and enriches their style. You’ll get access to a rich arsenal of firearms, but if you want to have blades because they look cool, go for it. All these elements will make it into Cyberpunk 2077. 'Style Over Substance' is our core theme, after all.”
The whole statement, especially the bolded bit, made me smile.
Edit: Full story here
Just watched the trailer/teaser.
Color me very, VERY interested.
Color me very, VERY interested.
It looks even better than Deus Ex 3 did O.o
I do not expect that to be even vaguely indicative of in-game graphics.
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Jan 11 2013, 10:31 PM)
I do not expect that to be even vaguely indicative of in-game graphics.
If even the ingame cut scenes are of that quality, it's pretty damm nice.
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 4 2012, 08:49 PM)
You've got to be kidding me. The Witcher is about as RPG as it gets nowadays. What contemporary popular franchise is more RPG-like? Maybe Final Fantasy, in the sense that everyone is to some extent still taking turns in combat?
The majority of lead Final Fantasy titles have not been turn-based. At least not by default. ATB is not turn based since the player's and enemy's attacks are all happening at the same time without time for independent thought. Final Fantasy X is the notable recent exception to it and used a turn-based combat method.
Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are pretty RPG. And Deus Ex 3 came close i think . .
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 11 2013, 12:47 PM)
yay or nay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs
I... I think I'm in love.
[ Spoiler ]
With this being CD projekt, it's a sure buy. They're basically the bastion of awesome that defies all shitty business practices that the big corps are trying to shove down our throat and give us more then we deserve. Helps that they make good games to.
Edit: Also I think Patrick was refering to the fact that the Witcher got pirated like a gazillion times on PC because they didn't have any DRM, fortunately it also won like every award ever and sold a bazillion copies. Same with GoG, absolutely no DRM, they even allow you to make personal copies in the terms of service and politely asks you to not be a twat sbout it.
The trailer looks gorgeous and it's a catchy tune, but I wish we could see something (anything) of what sort of gameplay to expect.
Early days for that, Critias.
At least we can see a slice of the aesthetic "vision" the devs have in their minds while working on the gameplay stuff.
At least we can see a slice of the aesthetic "vision" the devs have in their minds while working on the gameplay stuff.
Glad to hear it's moving ahead.
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Jan 12 2013, 03:17 AM)
Early days for that, Critias.
Oh, yeah. I'm not expecting a gameplay video or anything -- I just mean any hint at all. If we've heard at all what to expect, I've missed it; I don't know if it's a FPS, some sort of RPG, a single player, a multi-player, or what. Y'know? Even just some sort of developer interview or sales pitch would be cool, to whet appetites.
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At least we can see a slice of the aesthetic "vision" the devs have in their minds while working on the gameplay stuff.
Yeah, it's a cool lookin' trailer, that's for sure.
Last I read, we can expect a load more news about this game and probably a Witcher 3 in February.
Pretty sure it's set to be an RPG, I dread ending up with another cyberpunk game like that game
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 13 2013, 06:56 AM)
Pretty sure it's set to be an RPG, I dread ending up with another cyberpunk game like that game
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!!! It burns us!!!
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